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 Mar 13 2007, 03:58 PM
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Mar 14 2007, 08:38 AM
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 Bleep Bleep! Group: Admin Posts: 28,452 Joined: 24-January 04 From: USA Member No.: 3 |
Hmm..not exactly sure I know what this D: drive is. Not that familiar with recovery partitions. Usama, are these NTFS formatted drives or a different filesystem?
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Mar 14 2007, 04:17 PM
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 Bleeping entraÎner Group: HJT Team Coach Posts: 1,622 Joined: 24-September 04 Member No.: 2,990 |
Grinler, on my XP.... the recovery partition is named 'Presario_RP (D:) It is a Fat32.
(C:)---> is NTFS DVD-RW Drive (E:) is the drive that should be used for backups to a DVD or CD. Unless, socom 004 wants to make a new partition for Vista's backups. -------------------- MS MVP Windows-Security 2006-2008
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Mar 14 2007, 04:30 PM
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Forum Regular Group: Members Posts: 174 Joined: 13-December 05 From: Missouri Member No.: 44,571 |
Jacee...the D/recovery is partitioned for recovery. There's a message on the screen that said the system backup had not been run. I went to backup(I haven't done this before)and the default setting was backup to D. There was a "backup to CD-DVD" choice also, but not knowing any better(sorry), I hit backup and it backed up on the D until it ran out of space. Now a message keeps popping up saying I am runnuing out of space on D.
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Mar 14 2007, 04:35 PM
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Bleeping entraÎner Group: HJT Team Coach Posts: 1,622 Joined: 24-September 04 Member No.: 2,990 |
Yes, your recovery back up partition is "limited" to recover the original OS files.
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 Mar 14 2007, 04:55 PM
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 Who is running the store? Group: Members Posts: 1,851 Joined: 26-November 05 From: Tampa Bay Area, Florida, USA Member No.: 42,052 |
QUOTE(Jacee @ Mar 14 2007, 05:35 PM)  Yes, your recovery back up partition is "limited" to recover the original OS files. Doesn't HP provide a method to "backup" or create a copy of this recovery data to either a DVD or a set of CD's? --------------------  I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant! |
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Mar 14 2007, 05:08 PM
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socom 004
Click on the control panel, then click on the "Backup and Restore Center" icon. This is my laptop using Vista. I have no partitions on this computer, so as you can see I back up files to a DVD. My complete back up and restore is on drive (E:), which is an external harddrive. 
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Mar 15 2007, 12:37 PM
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Sorry for the delay in answering - but I borked my networking during the last posts that I made - and it took until now to reconnect (but I saved my post in Notepad).
Generally the HP recovery partitions are accessible if you start fiddling with the permissions and ownership of the files. I wouldn't suggest it until one has a copy of the recovery CD's in their posession. I'd try the backup CD's that were made to see if they'll access the partition (without actually running the entire restore routine). Since the D: partition only contains 6+ gB - I'd expect to find it of limited use for a backup. Socom004 should be able to use Disk Management to see what actual file system is in use (I'm away from home, so I can't check any HP's right away). I suspect that the permissions are limited to the "System" and that's why he can't access them. To access Disk Managment, just click on the Start Button and type "diskmgmt.msc" (without the quotes) and press Enter. Backing up the D: drive would also be a good idea. Having the ability to restore the drive to it's factory state would be essential if the restore routine requires access to it from the recovery CD's (that's the reason I suggested the test earlier). Chances are that it will work without problem - but taking that chance is up to the user. -------------------- - John
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Mar 15 2007, 01:33 PM
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Who is running the store? Group: Members Posts: 1,851 Joined: 26-November 05 From: Tampa Bay Area, Florida, USA Member No.: 42,052 |
Ah,
here you go - the "Getting Started" manual for that PC, in pdf format is h e r e. Page 25 of this "Troubleshooting and Maintenance Guide" explains how to do the one-time creation of "recovery Disks" that will enable one to "restore" their PC to the "factory fresh" condition it was when it was first set up out of the box. Note that they even mention that once these disks are created, you can delete the recovery image and use that space for your system. Enjoy. -------------------- I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant! |
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Mar 15 2007, 05:34 PM
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Thanks. I just made a Recovery Disc for the D drive/recovery.
-------------------- HP Pavillion a1723w, 820 dual-core processor, 250 G hard drive, 1 G RAM
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 Mar 15 2007, 05:47 PM
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Who is running the store? Group: Members Posts: 1,851 Joined: 26-November 05 From: Tampa Bay Area, Florida, USA Member No.: 42,052 |
Ain't it great when a plan comes together?
-------------------- I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant! |
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Mar 15 2007, 06:09 PM
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Forum Regular Group: Members Posts: 174 Joined: 13-December 05 From: Missouri Member No.: 44,571 |
OK, now, does it matter if the D partition/recovery is running low on disc space? There's only 2 MB left on it.
-------------------- HP Pavillion a1723w, 820 dual-core processor, 250 G hard drive, 1 G RAM
Windows Vista Home Premium Norton Internet Securities 2008, Windows Defender, Webroot SpySweeper, AVG Anti-Spyware Free Edition, Spybot S&D Altec Lansing Sound Speakers |
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Mar 15 2007, 06:13 PM
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Who is running the store? Group: Members Posts: 1,851 Joined: 26-November 05 From: Tampa Bay Area, Florida, USA Member No.: 42,052 |
Not really.
Now that you've backed up the recovery capability from that small partition, you could completely delete everything in it and use the space. -------------------- I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant! |
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Mar 15 2007, 07:19 PM
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Forum Regular Group: Members Posts: 174 Joined: 13-December 05 From: Missouri Member No.: 44,571 |
I won't delete it but it's good to know that I can ignore the little message that keeps popping up about low disk space.
-------------------- HP Pavillion a1723w, 820 dual-core processor, 250 G hard drive, 1 G RAM
Windows Vista Home Premium Norton Internet Securities 2008, Windows Defender, Webroot SpySweeper, AVG Anti-Spyware Free Edition, Spybot S&D Altec Lansing Sound Speakers |
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Mar 15 2007, 08:15 PM
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Who is running the store? Group: Members Posts: 1,851 Joined: 26-November 05 From: Tampa Bay Area, Florida, USA Member No.: 42,052 |
I suspect that if you at least delete that "backup" file that you added to that partition the message will stop, too.
-------------------- I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant! |
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