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  Dec 21 2004, 10:40 AM
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 Bleepin' Mod  Group: Moderator Posts: 4,679 Joined: 11-April 04 From: Whence I came Member No.: 108  |
Anyway I have a lot of stuff in this vault that I didn't even know was in there. I checked around and saw that this Java/ByteVerify was considered critical.. and I saw it was also not a big problem. I am confused if this is affecting my Java Runtime Environment. I have wanted to uninstll JRE but the son needs it.. thats right.. for yet another game. I guess my specific question is if anyone else is using the new AVG and how it is for them.. And I would also like to know what I typed above.. if I delete files out of the vault, does that delete the virus too.. or does it just clear the vault out. LOL I would actually prefer to just ditch the AVG and try something new for an AV program but I have tried most of them and really would not know what to try next. LOL As it is for now.. I am going to Trendmicro and get an on-line scan LOL hehe That seems the best thing to do now. LOL -------------------- Do not anticipate trouble, or worry about what may never happen. Keep in the sunlight. ~ Benjamin Franklin |
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Dec 21 2004, 12:33 PM
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 Feed me some spyware!  Group: Banned Posts: 4,557 Joined: 18-July 04 From: USA Ware Shoals SC Member No.: 1,500 |
I use the online scan of uh......Trend micro.I have avg on my old pc. I also use a outdated version of norton(2002).
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Dec 21 2004, 01:06 PM
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 Bleeping GloDiva Group: Members Posts: 7,479 Joined: 25-April 04 From: As always I'm beside myself ;) Member No.: 228 |
Pandy I found this info. on Grisoft's Website.
Java/ByteVerify This virus abuses the security vulnerability in Java Virtual Machine described in MS03-011, which gives posibility of runing potentially dangerous operation to java program (like working with files). Trojan horse using this vulnerability changes Internet Explorer Home page. The fix is available on Microsoft web pages like WindowsUpdate.Microsoft.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Grisoft, Inc. © 2003 top webmaster homepage --------------------  |
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Dec 21 2004, 01:21 PM
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 Forum Addict Group: Global Moderator Posts: 20,575 Joined: 11-April 04 From: Chicago, Il. Member No.: 113 |
AVG puts viruses it finds in a vault where they can do no further damage, but where you can retrieve them if there is, for example, a false positive. I usually wait a day or two and then delete the files.
Cheers, John Post script: I don't like the new version, either, although I think it is much improved; I could not get it to scan Emails without it stopping me from SENDING Emails either using OE or Mozilla. I found the "instructions" on configuring it to work with those clients completely confusing, and after three attempts to follow their directions, I turned that part of it off (my ISP, fortunately, scans Emails for viruses). John This post has been edited by jgweed: Dec 21 2004, 01:25 PM -------------------- Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one should be silent.
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Dec 22 2004, 09:56 AM
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Bleepin' Mod Group: Moderator Posts: 4,679 Joined: 11-April 04 From: Whence I came Member No.: 108 |
Hmm. I have had trouble with the e-mail scanner too. It won't work for all of the users. I had to reboot last night because it was not functioning.. reboot fixed it tho.. and it seems OK now. It hasn't stopped me from sending anything yet. lol
OK as for this Java/ByteVerify... Avg says it cannot heal it delete it or put it in a vault. Could that mean it is a false positive?? I do not know really what to do about this. I did the on line scan at trend micro... and it was the same thing... access denied. Could a false positive be this stubborn? Or maybe it can't do anything with it because it is a false positive... my confusion is complete. LOL Here is a shot of the scan.. it is big so I hosted it LOL [img=http://img141.exs.cx/img141/4639/virustest1222ajpg3wb.th.jpg] -------------------- Do not anticipate trouble, or worry about what may never happen. Keep in the sunlight. ~ Benjamin Franklin |
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Dec 22 2004, 10:59 AM
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 Learning Daily Group: Members Posts: 4,543 Joined: 9-July 04 From: Washington State, USA Member No.: 1,322 |
My thought is that AVG is working, and you have an imbedded virus. One that modified your Java RuntimeEnvironment. Java can be uninstalled/reinstalled and the effected
C:\Documents and Settings\xx\ Application Data \xx could be removed. A virus embedded ... my guess is can't be simply placed in the vault for removal. It has been identified, I don't think it's a false positive. my .02 worth. Never seen it b4.  You could double-check the results, perhaps. virus file scan. As for access denied, you could try doing the deletion in safe mode. -or- Try right-clicking on the file(s) involved to get your properties display, check "sharing" and 'security" to see what it shows, also. QUOTE I would actually prefer to just ditch the AVG If it's not a false positive, then this program is working well. Others may not work as well, I've found. yeah, it's a hassle... but it's there. I'd like to hear more of what you find.  EDIT: having read raw's advice, it would seem you can clear "cache". I couldn't find that exact operation detailed in the control panel. (see image) but you no doubt will. java control panel This post has been edited by phawgg: Dec 22 2004, 11:34 AM -------------------- patiently patrolling, plenty of persisant pests n' problems ...
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Dec 22 2004, 11:22 AM
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 Bleeping Hacker Group: BC Advisor Posts: 1,978 Joined: 14-April 04 From: Texas Member No.: 151 |
Go to your control panel and double click the Java Control Panel applet>cache tab>clear cache.
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Dec 22 2004, 12:08 PM
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Bleepin' Mod Group: Moderator Posts: 4,679 Joined: 11-April 04 From: Whence I came Member No.: 108 |
Ok what I have done is go to control panel/java plug ins/cache/clear..
Doing another scan now with the AVG... and the Java/ByteVerify is still there.. I guess raw's idea didn't work. I was hoping it would be that easy. -------------------- Do not anticipate trouble, or worry about what may never happen. Keep in the sunlight. ~ Benjamin Franklin |
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Dec 22 2004, 12:24 PM
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 Bleepin' Conundrum Group: Global Moderator Posts: 9,316 Joined: 26-April 04 From: 65 miles due East of the "Logic Free Zone", in Md, USA Member No.: 235 |
Pandy,
Please read this item. http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic6497.html# Then uninstall/delete your current Java & reload with the patched version as noted. -------------------- |
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 Dec 22 2004, 12:54 PM
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Bleepin' Mod Group: Moderator Posts: 4,679 Joined: 11-April 04 From: Whence I came Member No.: 108 |
LOL Thank you Koan.. I will get right on that ASAP. TYTY
-------------------- Do not anticipate trouble, or worry about what may never happen. Keep in the sunlight. ~ Benjamin Franklin |
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Dec 22 2004, 12:55 PM
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Learning Daily Group: Members Posts: 4,543 Joined: 9-July 04 From: Washington State, USA Member No.: 1,322 |
From the "TalkBack" responses ( bottom of page) to the article Koan linked you to, I found this:
After downloading and installing the JRE 1.4.2_06 update from Sun's Java website, I had to select that version of the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) manually in the Java Plug-In Control Panel. That panel resides in the Windows Control Panel. Select the "Advanced" tab from the Java Plug-In Control Panel, and select J2RE 1.4.2_06 from the drop-down listbox. Next, click on the "Apply" button. To make sure this was done correctly, click on the "About" tab and check that 1.4.2_06 is shown under Runtime Environment. Now, my applets that failed before run correctly. Probably time to update. I have J2RE 1.4.2_05 Here's the downloaded files involved with the old version. To compare them to the new ones. Might help to avoid confusion to ID the current ones on your machine in a similar way. Unistallations being what they sometimes are... incomplete in some ways. IMO  . It's a long download. I wish it was just a couple hundred kb patch. 
-------------------- patiently patrolling, plenty of persisant pests n' problems ...
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Dec 22 2004, 07:38 PM
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Learning Daily Group: Members Posts: 4,543 Joined: 9-July 04 From: Washington State, USA Member No.: 1,322 |
Update Java says I am but I have exactly what is shown above.
QUOTE Might help to avoid confusion to ID the current ones on your machine in a similar way. On second thought, maybe there is no way to avoid confusion.  QUOTE OK as for this Java/ByteVerify... Avg says it cannot heal it delete it or put it in a vault. Could that mean it is a false positive?? I still think if it's embedded it can't fix it. Uninstall, delete effected files, reinstall & your son can play games & you can visit chat in FF. I tend to believe an updated AVG & it's evidence of problems. (or lack of that evidence if an online scan gives me another result) It's certainly something to think about & go in circles over until it's resolved.
-------------------- patiently patrolling, plenty of persisant pests n' problems ...
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 Dec 23 2004, 01:03 AM
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Bleepin' Mod Group: Moderator Posts: 4,679 Joined: 11-April 04 From: Whence I came Member No.: 108 |
Well OK then.. I uninstalled the java and reinstalled it.. I tried it in my Firefox.. but the first time I tried it I had an error.. it just said it couldn't install.. so I tried it again.. it started but I decided maybe I should just use the Mozilla. It worked.. I already tested out the chat and the Java works... I didn't mention an odd thing.. Yesterday I logged into the chat room and when I got in there.. the cursor was going crazy in the typing field.. it was going like I had the space bar down.. I couldn't get it to stop. LOL But anyway thank you everyone for your replies.
-------------------- Do not anticipate trouble, or worry about what may never happen. Keep in the sunlight. ~ Benjamin Franklin |
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 Dec 23 2004, 01:08 AM
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Bleepin' Mod Group: Moderator Posts: 4,679 Joined: 11-April 04 From: Whence I came Member No.: 108 |
Oh... I would also say that the AVG 7.0 seems to be a bit better. I must be getting used to it. LoL.. sometimes I do not give things a chance. And the e-mail problem I had happened again, right after an update.. All I had to do was right click on the e-mail scanning button and click activate. hehehe Last night when that happened I rebooted.. but that fixed it too so
-------------------- Do not anticipate trouble, or worry about what may never happen. Keep in the sunlight. ~ Benjamin Franklin |
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Dec 27 2004, 09:17 AM
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Bleepin' Mod Group: Moderator Posts: 4,679 Joined: 11-April 04 From: Whence I came Member No.: 108 |
OMGOMG... the Java/ByteVerify is back.. that really stinks. I uninstalled the Java I had.. and DL the new.. which took a long time.. and now it is back when I thought I was OK.
   Wanna toss this box out the frockin window!!!!!
-------------------- Do not anticipate trouble, or worry about what may never happen. Keep in the sunlight. ~ Benjamin Franklin |
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