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Nov 17 2006, 02:19 PM
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![]() Bleep Bleep! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 29,367 Joined: 24-January 04 From: USA Member No.: 3 |
-------------------- Lawrence
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Nov 28 2006, 11:05 AM
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no im no mass fan of vista hehe but yeah iv seen it on my friends comp i seen it the wedensday before it was released =) lol cuz my friend's dad works for computer softwear n gets a free copy of windows vista =) so its really cool and its awsome they also use a nice loading thing like windows firewall =)
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Nov 28 2006, 12:24 PM
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I just got rid of Windows 2000 on my workstation for Windows XP last week. I have no plan to move to Vista. When I get settled in our new Phoenix office I plan on switching my personal workstations to Linux and I'll just let everyone deal with Windows (actually, they will still probably call me).
So far I just don't see what added benefit Vista offers. It's pretty, sure, but coming from someone that doesn't even run KDE or Gnome because it's too flashy, it should be easy to see that I'm not moved by aesthetics. Then I look at security and remember that XP is still currently supported, and since I run software firewall and av along with a hardware firewall, I'm not extremely worried about that either. To date I've only had a single attack on my network (that amounted to anything) and they only gained user access to my unpatched Slackware server. I've since fixed it up and been good for months. -------------------- Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
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Nov 28 2006, 02:44 PM
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![]() Forum Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 325 Joined: 16-November 06 From: Hammond, IN Member No.: 96,080 |
Vista has tons more security, and it's alot more stable.
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Nov 28 2006, 03:04 PM
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I've got Vista RTM (technet subscribers get it first....:D ) but to make the best use of it I'm going to have to build a new system.
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Nov 28 2006, 04:47 PM
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Vista has tons more security, and it's alot more stable. For a single-user PC though I can't justify the expense. -------------------- Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
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Nov 28 2006, 04:49 PM
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I've got Vista RTM (technet subscribers get it first....:D ) but to make the best use of it I'm going to have to build a new system. By "make the best of it" do you mean take advantage of the eye-candy? If so, do you think that it is worth upgrading hardware for? -------------------- Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
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Nov 28 2006, 05:03 PM
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I've got Vista RTM (technet subscribers get it first....:D ) but to make the best use of it I'm going to have to build a new system. By "make the best of it" do you mean take advantage of the eye-candy? If so, do you think that it is worth upgrading hardware for? Eye candy and speed. Transparent menus and gadgets are cool but hardly worth an upgrade for. But Some of the eye candy might actually improve usability. I tend to have multiple programs open, the small preview screens that show up when you hover over the programs in the task bar help remind me which program is doing what. The dynamic search functions are much better and basically replace the need for google desktop. I haven't used it enough to say that you definitely need to upgrade. I'm upgrading because I HAVE too. I sell and service PCs. I can't do that without learning about vista. Like it or not it is here and people are going to use it. -------------------- |
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Nov 28 2006, 05:14 PM
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I'm upgrading because I HAVE too. I sell and service PCs. I can't do that without learning about vista. Like it or not it is here and people are going to use it. Ahh yes. That is the one reason that I will eventually get on the Vista wagon too. But, since I manage the systems for our company, I can safely say that I won't be seeing Vista on a large-scale in 2007. Heck, some of the companies that we work with just moved to XP last year! -------------------- Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
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Nov 28 2006, 05:26 PM
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![]() Bleep Bleep! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 29,367 Joined: 24-January 04 From: USA Member No.: 3 |
I am going to install the rtm this week i think.
-------------------- Lawrence
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Nov 28 2006, 05:28 PM
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![]() Bleep Bleep! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 29,367 Joined: 24-January 04 From: USA Member No.: 3 |
Is the build up on MSDN the RTM build?
-------------------- Lawrence
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Nov 28 2006, 05:47 PM
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Is the build up on MSDN the RTM build? I don't have MSDN but as I understand it it should be. MSDN usually gets it when Technet does. -------------------- |
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Nov 29 2006, 07:42 AM
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The MSDN copy of the RTM build was posted a while back (on the 17th I think) - There's a huge link on the MSDN home page for it. http://msdn.mcrosoft.com
From what I've seen, there's several things that make Vista worthwhile: 1) the graphics (not just the eye candy - but the processing of graphics) 2) the error reporting tools are greatly improved. 3) the driver installation wizard is good. It detected my TV card, then asked permission to go looking for drivers, found them and installed them - all without my specifying anything. 4) improved security (even tho' the UAC is a real PITA at times) 5) Vista systems should hit the market in a day or two - we should start seeing questions on them real soon. FWIW - I've got Vista on dual boot right now, but I'm going to use it full-time on my new system (in preparation for it's release to the public) and will run XP in a VM for answering questions on it. This post has been edited by usasma: Nov 29 2006, 07:51 AM -------------------- - John
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Nov 29 2006, 10:47 AM
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![]() Bleep Bleep! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 29,367 Joined: 24-January 04 From: USA Member No.: 3 |
I thought Vista was not being released for sale until Jan 1 ... your saying people can buy systems now and get it before that with vista installed?
Also the parental controls are very nice. I will be writing tutorials on alot of the Vista features soon. -------------------- Lawrence
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Nov 29 2006, 10:55 AM
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I thought Vista was not being released for sale until Jan 1 ... your saying people can buy systems now and get it before that with vista installed? Also the parental controls are very nice. I will be writing tutorials on alot of the Vista features soon. Retail Launch date is Jan 31st. Not the 1st. That for boxed copies on the shelves at Best Buy, Circuit City, Staples, Wal-mart, and so on. Gold OEMs are getting now to roll out for systems to be sold in January. DSP OEMs (aka whitebox builders) will not get it until Jan 31st. -------------------- |
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