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 Feb 12 2006, 11:10 AM
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Against: Was it hoaxed like some say? If it weren't real, then where did we film it? Why did the flag wave on the moon, if there is no wind and atmosphere there? If it is real, why weren't there any stars in the background of the movie? Why wasn't there a blast creator on the moon from when it landed? For: How could the USA possibly even think to fake it? Wouldn't another country say something if they faked it? Where was China during the Cold War? <== like how come they didn't really side with one of us, or challenge the other. What are your opinions? I bet this is going to be a really controversial topic.  
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Feb 13 2006, 04:57 PM
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Conspiracy Theory - Did we land on the moon? (Fox)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1...+on+the+moon%3F I actually watched it. It's 48minutes long. Makes you start to question NASA... This post has been edited by yano: Feb 13 2006, 05:16 PM -------------------- |
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Feb 13 2006, 05:54 PM
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 Forum Addict Group: HJT Team Posts: 2,360 Joined: 13-September 04 From: SE Wisconsin, US Member No.: 2,698 |
I can't believe any intellegent person has any doubts about this.
Definitive answer: If we didn't , how did the laser reflector get there? QUOTE Why did the flag wave on the moon, if there is no wind and atmosphere there? What these people show as 'waving' is caused by a mechanical perturbance. QUOTE If it is real, why weren't there any stars in the background of the movie? It's something called limited dynamic range of the film. Why can't you see stars on a sunny day - do you dispute they are there? QUOTE Why wasn't there a blast creator on the moon from when it landed? There was dust moved around. The amount of thrust + the altitude at which the engine cut off was such that it did not make a big hole. -------------------- Derfram
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Feb 13 2006, 06:02 PM
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I'm not really gonna spit out my opinion until later down the road. I like to watch everyone else battle it out first.
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Feb 13 2006, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE(ddeerrff @ Feb 13 2006, 03:54 PM)  I can't believe any intellegent person has any doubts about this. Definitive answer: If we didn't , how did the laser reflector get there? QUOTE Why did the flag wave on the moon, if there is no wind and atmosphere there? What these people show as 'waving' is caused by a mechanical perturbance. QUOTE If it is real, why weren't there any stars in the background of the movie? It's something called limited dynamic range of the film. Why can't you see stars on a sunny day - do you dispute they are there? QUOTE Why wasn't there a blast creator on the moon from when it landed? There was dust moved around. The amount of thrust + the altitude at which the engine cut off was such that it did not make a big hole. ditto -------------------- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
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Feb 13 2006, 08:59 PM
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Everything Dr. Derf^2 said is pretty true.
I saw a documentary on the National Geographic channel where they analyzed and debunked just about every argument the conspiracy theorists have. The flag was waving due to the flimsy aluminum tubes used to support it. When it was planted, the tubes (both vertical and horizontal to stretch the flag into a rectangle) bounced and jiggled for an extended amount of time due to the lack of atmosphere and air pressure. EDIT: Also notice that the flag doesn't move as the astronauts move by it. No wind = no disturbance in close proximity The stars don't appear because the surface of the moon is very bright. The camera cannot adjust to the intense brightness of the surface of the moon while also capturing the faint light of the stars. Difference in contrast. It's the same as standing under a street light, looking up, and trying to see stars. Try it yourself. There was a slight disturbance in dust, however not enough to warrant clouds and plumes. I hope these explanations are simpler and easier to understand. This post has been edited by Heretic Monkey: Feb 13 2006, 09:01 PM |
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Feb 13 2006, 10:48 PM
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The best answers to debunking that conspiracy theory were on a Showtime series called appropriately Bulls**t with Penn & Teller. It prove it was bull.
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Feb 13 2006, 11:25 PM
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Penn and Teller did a special? Man, wish i could've caught that one......
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Feb 14 2006, 12:14 PM
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Of course we landed on the moon. And I heard we are about to do it again and even land on mars one day in the future!
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Feb 14 2006, 12:25 PM
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*sigh*
 Sorry, I am just kinda sick of this debate...are people (none of you, I'm talking about the conspiracy theory nuts) sooo bored/paranoid that they have to question something like landing on the moon? I agree with ddeerrff and Heretic Monkey completly. Also, the moon landings cost a lot of money. Why would NASA take billions of dollars of taxpayer money and fake a moon landing? I'd rather spend the cash on actually going there! Wouldn't you? --------------------  Which Final Fantasy Character Are You? Final Fantasy 7 - Avatar textures taken from http://celestial-star.net/ and http://shatterheart.net/ |
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Feb 14 2006, 12:39 PM
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If one applies a very high, and completely unrealistic, criteria for truth to any occasion, one is bound to be uncertain.Even Aristotle understood that one should not expect the same degree of certainty in different kinds of knowledge.
Any event, if one picks and chooses small pieces of it but ignores the whole that "hangs together" one can find "reasons" for doubt. There are indeed, no facts but only interpretations of facts. And one can choose the most high fantastical interpretations, or one can choose to use common sense and accepted methods within each field. Regards, John This post has been edited by jgweed: Feb 14 2006, 12:39 PM -------------------- Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one should be silent.
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Feb 14 2006, 12:47 PM
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Yes, I do believe we did land on the moon.
And ddeerrff thank you for your intelligent and clear explanation. Conspiracy Theories do just as they are intended to do. Convince those reading/hearing them that they are the one and only truth. It is so easy to fall into their trap. One must remain rational, or otherwise one will be believing everything one hears. And there are many crazy theories floating around out there. Before you know it you will have trouble separating fact from fiction.
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Feb 16 2006, 08:52 AM
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I can see what you post! Group: Members Posts: 6,374 Joined: 14-February 05 Member No.: 12,053 |
I agree. I believe we did land on the moon. I just think that if one looks hard enough they can find something to dispute almost anything.
Heck if I really wanted to I could say this site is a conpsiracy. It's really helping the spyware indutsry. 
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Feb 16 2006, 12:00 PM
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Why, yano, what ever gave you that idea.......? Of course there's nothing wrong with this site....... It's completely safe to list any and all aspects of your computer, network settings, ip addy, spyware/adware programs, virus programs..... :mello: :mello: :mello:
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Feb 21 2006, 06:14 PM
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Ok
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