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#1 User is offline   Laran 

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 04:17 AM

Hey,
I want to know which set is better and more future-oriented? (possibility to upgrade or overclock) I would also like to know which of them will run more quietly, because that's important for me. I use computer to games, recording games, etc.

Thanks for help:)

Set 1:
AMD Phenom II Quad Core X4 955 AM3 BOX
Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3
Goodram DDR3 4GB 1333MHz CL9
Western Digital Caviar 500GB SATA3 (WD5000AAKX)
Palit GeForce GTX560Ti 1GB
Sony DVD AD-7260S Black OEM
SilentiumPC Brutus 410 Pure Black
SeaSonic SS-500ET 80+ 500W OEM
BenQ 21.5" GL2240M

Set 2:
Intel Core i5 2400 LGA1155 BOX
Asrock P67 PRO3 (B3) Intel P67 LGA1155
Goodram Goodram DDR3 4GB 1333MHz CL9
Samsung 1TB SATA2 (HD103SJ)
Vertex3D ATI HD6850 X-Edition 1GB DDR5/256bit
SilentiumPC Brutus 410 Pure Black BT-410
SeaSonic SS-500ET 80+ 500W OEM
SonyDVD AD-7260S Black OEM
BenQ 21.5" GL2240M

This post has been edited by Laran: 07 August 2011 - 04:21 AM


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Posted 07 August 2011 - 04:41 AM

Set 1 because it uses the 900 series chipset and has a AM3+ socket which can be upgraded to the Bulldozer processor when it comes out. You can't really determine the quietness as the fan speed randomly changes to suit the temperature.
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Posted 07 August 2011 - 05:57 AM

OK thanks. I have heard that AMD is louder than the Intel

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 07:12 AM

Not always true :thumbup2:
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Posted 07 August 2011 - 10:34 AM

I would advise changing the case you have selected.
That case is a compact ATX/mATX case.
Overclocking, and gaming, will generate a lot of heat.
The smaller the case, the less efficient it will be at removing heat.
Heat kills electronics!

I would recommend at least a mid-tower (preferably a full-tower) case.
A larger case gives you more room, to tuck the wiring out of the way of the airflow, which will promote more efficient cooling.
A larger case also gives you more room to work. :)

If noise is a major concern, look for a case that can accommodate 140mm, or larger fans.
The larger the fan, the less RPMs required to move a given amount of air.
Less RPMs = less noise.

Something else to consider, if you are going to be overclocking, an aftermarket heatsink/fan is a must have.
Since most of the more efficient ones are fairly large, in a small case, this will also cause more of a restriction in airflow.
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Posted 07 August 2011 - 03:00 PM

If I will overclock the processor I will surely buy a new cooler. I know that the standard is not enough. At the Polish Forum I learned that i5 2400 has a very weak overclocking. And what about x4 955?

Do you know roughly how much Bulldozer will cost?

By the way: SilentiumPC Brutus 410 Pure Black have two 140mm fans :)

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Posted 07 August 2011 - 06:13 PM

View PostLaran, on 07 August 2011 - 03:00 PM, said:

By the way: SilentiumPC Brutus 410 Pure Black have two 140mm fans :)

Not according to the specs on their site:

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Cooling (two fans included):

Front: 1 x 120mm fan(1200 rpm ~15 dB/A)

Rear: 1 x 120mm fan (1200 rpm ~15 dB/A)

Bottom: 1x 120mm fan (option)

Top: 1x 120mm fan (option)
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Posted 07 August 2011 - 07:03 PM

A Phenom II X4 955 is a good CPU, very easy to overclock. As of last report, the FX 8150P Bulldozer CPU will be about $300. You're building a mid-level gaming PC, everything looks good. There are a few things you should consider. The SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB competes against the GTX 560 Ti, has a lower price and near equal performance in most games. Or, for a little more cash, the SAPPHIRE 100312-1GDP Radeon HD 6950 1GB is also a good card. If you go AMD, I would go for a 990FX based motherboard as those are meant for overclocking and multi-GPU performance.
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Posted 08 August 2011 - 02:05 AM

The 6950 is a very nice card, i have 2 of them in my rig :wink:
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Posted 08 August 2011 - 03:04 AM

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A Phenom II X4 955 is a good CPU, very easy to overclock. As of last report, the FX 8150P Bulldozer CPU will be about $300.

Thanks for answer:)

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You're building a mid-level gaming PC, everything looks good.

I think it's enought for 4 years:)And as some of you said - I can upgrade it:)

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There are a few things you should consider. The SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB competes against the GTX 560 Ti, has a lower price and near equal performance in most games. Or, for a little more cash, the SAPPHIRE 100312-1GDP Radeon HD 6950 1GB is also a good card. If you go AMD, I would go for a 990FX based motherboard as those are meant for overclocking and multi-GPU performance.

I found this:
Sapphire ATI Radeon HD6870 1GB DDR5/256bit DVI/HDMI/mDP PCI-Express
Sapphire ATI Radeon HD6870 1GB DDR5/256bit DVI/HDMI/DP PCI-Express (11179-09-20G)
Which is right one? (I will be ordering my PC from this store / sorry for no english)

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Posted 08 August 2011 - 05:06 AM

The only difference i see from them are the display port size which isn't a issue. So get the cheapest one which is the second one.
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Posted 08 August 2011 - 07:54 AM

First has 4200MHz memory clock but second has 1050MHz. Both cards have different chipset (FX1700 and Radeon HD6870) and 1st have Shader Model 5.0 standard. Does this make any difference? I do not know, that's why I ask.

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Posted 08 August 2011 - 08:16 AM

I seem to miss that part when going through the differences <_< It won't make the biggest difference. I had a look at the Sapphire site and there are literally multiple models of the 6850, they are all slightly different from each other. Now since going through the specs again, i believe the more expensive one is faster because of the higher memory clock speed.
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Posted 08 August 2011 - 08:52 AM

So I should buy first one? (Sapphire ATI Radeon HD6870 1GB DDR5/256bit DVI/HDMI/mDP PCI-Express ) It's only 7 PLN difference.

If I had bought HD6870 I will have 100 PLN (1PLN ~ 1/3$ or 1/4€)more. Should I buy 8 GB RAM [like Kingston DDR3 8GB(2x4GB) 1333MHz CL9] or something else, like motherboard or processor cooler?

This post has been edited by Laran: 08 August 2011 - 02:30 PM


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Posted 08 August 2011 - 02:33 PM

<facepalm> Instead of writing that 3PLN is worth 1$ and 1€ is worth 4 PLN I wrote that 1 PLN is worth 3$ or 4$. But now it's ok. </facepalm>

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