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 Oct 20 2004, 09:54 PM
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I have had an IBM earlier Pentium desktop until recently. It was about 3 yrs old. Almost any problem that could go wrong with it went wrong with it. Will never buy an IBM product again. It basically served my needs, and planned to buy a low to mid range Compaq this time in the range of $500-600 (computer only). I have decided to build as I have tinkered with computers all of my life, but have never built one from scratch. I'm also guessing that I can build one for a similar amount, but improve on components over standard store bought computers. Some sites I've visited do not support this though, stating that Dell and Gateway can sell you one for cheaper that you can buy one. Regarding my usage. I guess I'm a standard user in most respects. Primarily use is internet/email. Do not do any gaming. Not that I wouldn't enjoy it, but time demands with my job and family do not allow gaming. I'm definately a mulitasker with multiple windows open at once. My job involves looking at multiple JPEG images in a stacked mode (low resolution of approximately 40KB x 200 images). Loading that many images was sometimes a memory burden on my IBM desktop (384 MB) and current laptop (192 MB). I guess the initial questions I have are: 1) Can I build a system at this price range and improve on my components? 2) Are there any websites that help, step by step with first times builders? Looking through Woody's thread, I checked out a yahoo link as well as one other that had some decent info for first time builders. Would like to find some additional help. I will have internet access with my laptop during the build. 3) Hardware issues: Glanced at pricewatch.com. Am I better off buying a motherboard and CPU seperate or getting a MOBO/CPU combo? Just for starters, pricewatch has several MOBO/CPU combos with Pentium 4 (between 2.6 and 2.8) with fan for under $200. Will have to do some research, as items may be at less reputible online sellers. I have decided that I would like to build with a Pentium 4 over a Celeron or Sempron. But from Woody's post, I gather that I may be able to go with an AMD processor over a Pentium, get roughly the same performance at a cheaper price. Any thoughts? And if AMD is the way to go, what CPU matches fairly close to a 2.8 pentium 4? Memory: I'm thinking that I will need a minium of 512. May want to go with 1 Gig. But not sure. When picking out memory, do I only have to worry about speed and pin type to match? One of the posts on Woody's thread indicated this. But I attempted to upgrade memory on my previous IBM. Had a difficult time, until I got direct help from the retailer. This may be due to the fact that I had an IBM, which suggested getting proprietary memory. Optical drives: I have an old CD writer (4X - Don't laugh) on the IBM. This is basically worthless. Would like to put in a DVD writer, which will probably boost price a bit. Would guess I would need a DVD writer in one bay and a standard DVD Rom in the other to play DVD's and burn both CD's and DVD's. Do not do a lot of burining, so don't need top of the line. Any suggestions as to brand? Audio/video: At my price range, I'm sure that I will have to live with built in audio/video on MOBO. But would like the ability to upgrade at some point. Hard Drive: Old IBM had at 20 Gig. Never filled it. Could reuse it, but it is 3 yrs old. Thought getting a new 40 Gig would be appropriate and adding the 20 Gig as a slave. Case: Don't need anthing exotic. In Woody's post there was a link to: AsiaPro ASYS Blue/Silver ATX Mid Tower Case With 450W PSU, Model "180 BEIGE/BLUE" . This seems reasonable at a good price. Any other cases along this line to choose from? Would I need to upgrade PSU? Add additonal fans to this case? Card Reader: Have an olymus digital camera that uses SmartMedia and xD. Thought about putting in a card reader, but this is not necessary. Could continue to use the USB connection. Primarlily use the xD card. Just a thought. I'm sure there are other things I'm forgetting. Sorry this is such a long post. Just wanted to explain my thoughts so far. Thanks ahead for any info you are able to provide. Looking foward to building my first. Thanks.. Chad |
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Oct 20 2004, 11:12 PM
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 Feed me some spyware! Group: Members Posts: 4,491 Joined: 18-July 04 From: USA Ware Shoals SC Member No.: 1,500 |
I know of a step by step ebook on how to build a good pc for 500.00 if you would like id post it. It aint free and I dont sell it but I think it might come in handy....Just ask Ill check in here...O and its ok for the long post! Just to say long informative posts are better than short non detailed posts! No biggie!
A card reader would be nice! I have hp all in one printer with it built in! So much easier than usb to the cam! Good places to get the parts cheap! www.newegg.com ebay http://www.qksrv.net/click-1569720-5463217?loc=www.ebay.com My tip go to newegg and get a case. If your not picky you can get a good one for 30bucks! Go to ebay for the best deals on your hardware! A 30gig hd wont cost you much on ebay or newegg! About the dvd write your going to need more money or less of a pc in your profit range I would say. Its all up to speed but a dvd write min price is around 100.00 all the way up to over 200.00 and good dvd drive(needed to burn dvds unless you want to send to hd first then resend to dvd!) might cost you 30 bucks(aint bad!) Wait wait a sec!!!! look below But I just looked a dvdrw/dvdr drive from toshiba is only 69.99! At ebay might be cheaper I got this price from www.tigerdirect.com another place to get pc parts! For memory you need the same name brand in both chips if thats what your meaning. Some chips dont work with each other(a IBM chip might conflict with a HP chip). Some chips work together if not the same name brand. Ram isnt too much but a 1gb would cost you a min of 154.00 maybe less on ebay. A ddr chip 256mb on tiger site 24.99..... Hope I have helped! If you need anymore ill be around here somewhere! -------------------- The fool says in his heart,"There is no God."They are corrupt, and their ways are vile;there is no one who does good. (Psalm 14:1; 53:1)
"The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork" (Psalms 19:1) If you were to die today where would you go? Learn how to go to heaven today click here! Come check out my new blog!! -Austin Z If we are what we eat then I am fried,greasy and 99 cents.(nah I eat healthy most of the time) |
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Oct 21 2004, 01:12 AM
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 Learning Daily Group: Members Posts: 4,543 Joined: 9-July 04 From: Washington State, USA Member No.: 1,322 |
Hi, cpotter Welcome to BC
QUOTE Can I build a system at this price range and improve on my components? Yes. Mine has cost me about 600.00 to date. Not counting a 150.00 for a multi-function peripheral (Lexmark 5150 copier/printer/scanner/fax). I started with it 19 months ago, prior to that I never had my own PC. I've had very few hardware related problems. Lotta software ones, though. LOL. 1.73 Ghx AMD Processor, nVidia nForce chipset. A lot of people swear by them. I would recommend one. QUOTE Are there any websites that help, step by step with first times builders? Looking through Woody's thread, I checked out a yahoo link as well as one other that had some decent info for first time builders. Would like to find some additional help. I will have internet access with my laptop during the build. Information is available , but I haven't seen any step-by-steps of the entire process, exactly. We can do it here. Woody's thread isn't done yet, and a hardware tutorial is in the pipeline. QUOTE Optical drives: I have an old CD writer (4X - Don't laugh) on the IBM. This is basically worthless. Would like to put in a DVD writer, which will probably boost price a bit. Would guess I would need a DVD writer in one bay and a standard DVD Rom in the other to play DVD's and burn both CD's and DVD's. Do not do a lot of burining, so don't need top of the line. Any suggestions as to brand I have a DVD-Rom in one bay, a CD-RW 52x-24x-52x Sony that I paid 49.99 for at Office Depot in another. Case adapts for two more if I like. If I were starting out, I'd buy a DVD-RW which would do it all. Your worthless 4x at least burns a 700MB CD. I'd mount it, plug it in and use it in case the main goes hay-wire at any time. (usually right when ya' need to burn a quick CD) QUOTE Audio/video: At my price range, I'm sure that I will have to live with built in audio/video on MOBO. But would like the ability to upgrade at some point. The video card I just installed cost 44.00, a 64MB Chaintech nVidia GeForce MX 400. Gamers wouldn't give it high marks, but it does eliminate a 32MB drain on my 512MB memory card that the on-board video causes. The sound card onboard this MSI mainboard does fine, considering I drive a pair of headphones with it. QUOTE Case: Don't need anthing exotic. In Woody's post there was a link to: AsiaPro ASYS Blue/Silver ATX Mid Tower Case With 450W PSU, Model "180 BEIGE/BLUE" . This seems reasonable at a good price. Any other cases along this line to choose from? Would I need to upgrade PSU? Add additonal fans to this case? I have a gray case that was about 50.00. It will handle upgrades for me over the next 4-5 years, probably. QUOTE Card Reader: Have an olymus digital camera that uses SmartMedia and xD. Thought about putting in a card reader, but this is not necessary. Could continue to use the USB connection. Primarlily use the xD card. Just a thought. This is an area I haven't done any research. Haven't needed to. I have several USB 2 connections. I can upload from a friend's digital camera easily enough. So, anyway... I decided to spend an hour at newegg, thinking I'd want a little better than I have now. new egg This page is where I started. Mainboard. Use the search functions, maybe I clicked "home" and "products", but you'll get the hang of it.
It would be a quantum leap beyond an earlier IBM pentium desktop IMO Its a start list. I could debate each entry the same way I do the files in a HJT log, but why... we can discuss them right here. Studying it might reveal some minor inconsistancies. At this hour I don't think so. I don't buy online simply because I don't use credit. I use retail new & used stores locally. I do know how to get around having a run-of-the-mill PC that will give you more headaches than any build your own will. Build it yourself, and you become your own customer assistance person. You have to do it, then you'll know. Like posting at a forum (this one took 45 minutes), ya gotta start somewhere, and you've described your use factors well enough. It boils down to what your're comfortable with. Hope this helps answer some of your questions. 
-------------------- patiently patrolling, plenty of persisant pests n' problems ...
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Oct 21 2004, 03:04 PM
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Feed me some spyware! Group: Members Posts: 4,491 Joined: 18-July 04 From: USA Ware Shoals SC Member No.: 1,500 |
Good tips phawgg! 600.00 aint bad is it? Yeah if you need any help were here to help you through it! You wont find anyone on any other forum that will help you like we all will(all the bc memebers shake heads in aggrement!?)
Just keep asking and we will keep answering em! CGM3 -------------------- The fool says in his heart,"There is no God."They are corrupt, and their ways are vile;there is no one who does good. (Psalm 14:1; 53:1)
"The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork" (Psalms 19:1) If you were to die today where would you go? Learn how to go to heaven today click here! Come check out my new blog!! -Austin Z If we are what we eat then I am fried,greasy and 99 cents.(nah I eat healthy most of the time) |
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Oct 21 2004, 03:44 PM
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 Forum Addict Group: Global Moderator Posts: 19,739 Joined: 11-April 04 From: Chicago, Il. Member No.: 113 |
Buy the largest case you can for the money; they are much easier to build in.
Picture ediiting is a RAM hog, so opt for one GIG if your budget can afford it.; you could scrimp on your HD---40-60Gigs is more than sufficient, especially if you plan to store your pictures on disk when you have finished. If you take your time and are not in a hurry to replace the old computer, you can sometimes find very good buys locally at Best Buy, Microcenter, etc., when certain components are on sale or in the midst of being cleared for newer products (rebates can really reduce the cost). Cheers, John -------------------- Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one should be silent.
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 Oct 21 2004, 06:35 PM
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Learning Daily Group: Members Posts: 4,543 Joined: 9-July 04 From: Washington State, USA Member No.: 1,322 |
The Yardstick
Measuring PC performance & capabilities is what you're thinking about when building one. Do this step right, and the parts will fit together, the results will please you, and the inevitable surprises will likely be pleasant ones. The Everest report, lavalys.com, or it's predeceser, AIDA is comprehensive to such a degree you'd be startled at your ignorance when first encountering it. Relax, there is a lot of redundancy in it. The key items are written in the language that people who sell the hardware speak, though. You need to see how it all makes for the "big picture" I'm learning, and I edited a report of my PC. This is the half of it. The further you get into it, the greater the detail about things that you don't particularly need to know. The location of each and every device, for instance. You should know that your mainboard will handle what you want now, and have some expansion capability, too. I've noted some thoughts next to some entries, for consideration when thinking about the PC past, present & future. I suggest running the report software on any machine, by anyone. It's free. Comparing the present (black) with the future (blue). I'll leave the order of the report as is, and paste in the similar info taken from new egg product specs yesterday. Please note, I'm learning so the (?) indicate the kinds of questions I'd ask facing decisions. From a practical, common-sense point of view, I'd get no less than 120GB drive, at 20.00 more than a 40MB drive its the cheapest expansion plan going, and the system should be built with as few "bottlenecks" as possible. This kinda set-up can easily warrant HD space. Remember, winXP takes 1.5 GB, system restore can double it. Defrag needs 15% to work, and is faster on smaller partitions of a bigger drive. The 40GB actually is more like 37.5, and the 120=114 in reality. Page file systems operate on percentages, too. The bigger the better for their operation along side of big RAM chips. BTW, mp3's & video files along with big .bmp & lottsa .jpegs can sit quite well with adequate space, and the processor can batch move lottsa GB's faster on a spec'd PC like this. Regarding memory, I'd buy 512, and the install of another 512 or two will take 10 minutes in the future. I also agree with jgweed about the case. I do have mine in the larger of the two available sizes (tower & mid-tower, basically) and its quite spacious. The trade off might be in power supply that you get... (like mobo/chipset , case/PSU are popular options to buying each separately). 400-450W is a lot. I think I have 300W, and I've never had issues with it. Accessories & bigger/additional fans (maybe 30.00 worth of 'em) and newer stuff (ie:HDs) can take more right off the bat, and graphics intensive photo-editing software/hardware add-ons might need more juice, too. 300-400 seems safe enough. Comparing a 600.00 PC with a 600.00 PC sorta, to the extent of my understanding/patience Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional 5.1.2600 (WinXP Retail) Date 2004-09-24 most recent reloading of it Computer: Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional more details OS Service Pack Service Pack 2 Internet Explorer 6.0.2900.2180 DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0) Motherboard: CPU Type AMD Athlon XP, 1733 MHz (13 x 133) 2100+ CPU Type AMD AthlonXP, 2.1GHz (?? x???) 3000+ Motherboard Name MSI K7N2 (MS-6570) (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 1 ACR, 3 DIMM, Audio) Motherboard Name MSI "K7N2 Delta2-LSR" (?) (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 3 DIMM, Audio) Motherboard Chipset nVIDIA nForce2 SPP Motherboard Chipset: nVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 + MCP-sFSB: 400/333/266MHz System Memory 512 MB (PC2100 DDR SDRAM) System Memory 512MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM) BIOS Type Award (01/16/03) Display: Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 (Microsoft Corporation) (64 MB) nVIDIA GeForce FX5200 (probably MS Driver) (128MB) 3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 Monitor Compaq S710 [17" CRT] (037CG43HC314) Multimedia: Audio Adapter nVIDIA MCP2 - Audio Codec Interface Storage: IDE Controller NVIDIA NForce MCP2 IDE Controller Floppy Drive Floppy disk drive Disk Drive Maxtor 6E040L0 (40 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133) Disk Drive Maxtor 6Y120P0 (120 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133) Optical Drive _NEC DV-5800A (16x/48x DVD-ROM) Optical Drive SONY CD-RW CRX220E1 (52x/24x/52x CD-RW) SMART Hard Disks Status OK Partitions: C: (NTFS) 39205 MB (32590 MB free) D: (NTFS) 36240 MB (34623 MB free) E: (NTFS) 80999 MB (79961 MB free) Input: Keyboard Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard Mouse Microsoft USB Wheel Mouse Optical Network: Network Adapter WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface (64.40.54.118) Modem HSP56 MicroModem Peripherals: Printer Lexmark X5100 Series USB1 Controller nVIDIA MCP2 - OHCI USB Controller USB1 Controller nVIDIA MCP2 - OHCI USB Controller USB2 Controller nVIDIA MCP2 - EHCI USB 2.0 Controller USB Device Lexmark X5100 Series USB Device Microsoft USB Wheel Mouse Optical USB Device USB Composite Device USB Device USB Human Interface Device USB Device USB Printing Support BIOS Properties: Vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD Version 6.00 PG Release Date 01/16/2003 Size 256 KB Boot Devices Floppy Disk, Hard Disk, CD-ROM, ATAPI ZIP, LS-120 Capabilities Flash BIOS, Shadow BIOS, Selectable Boot, EDD Supported Standards DMI, APM, ACPI, PnP Expansion Capabilities ISA, PCI, AGP, USB System Properties: Wake-Up Type Power Switch Motherboard Properties: Manufacturer MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD Product MS-6570 Chassis Properties: Chassis Type Desktop Case Memory Controller Properties: Error Detection Method 8-bit Parity Error Correction None Supported Memory Interleave 1-Way Current Memory Interleave 1-Way Supported Memory Speeds 70ns, 60ns Supported Memory Types SPM, EDO Supported Memory Voltages 5V Maximum Memory Module Size 32 MB Memory Slots 3 Processor Properties: Manufacturer AMD Version AMD Athlon™ XP External Clock 133 MHz FSB: 400/333/266MHz (?) Maximum Clock 2200 MHz 3100 MHZ (?) Current Clock 1733 MHz 2600 MHz (?) Type Central Processor Voltage 1.5 V Voltage 1.65V Status Enabled Upgrade ZIF Socket Designation Socket A Socket Designation Socket A Cache Properties: Type Internal Status Enabled Operational Mode Write-Back Maximum Size 128 KB Installed Size 128 KB Cache: L1/64K+64K Supported SRAM Type Synchronous Current SRAM Type Synchronous Socket Designation Internal Cache Cache Properties: Type External Status Enabled Operational Mode Write-Back Maximum Size 256 KB Installed Size 256 KB Supported SRAM Type Synchronous Current SRAM Type Synchronous Socket Designation External Cache Memory Module Properties: (one of three) Socket Designation A1 Speed 60 ns Installed Size 512 MB Enabled Size 512 MB Memory Device Properties: Form Factor DIMM Size 512 MB Size 512 MB Device Locator A1 Bank Locator Bank2/3 Manufacturer None Serial Number None Asset Tag None Part Number None CPU Properties: CPU Type AMD Athlon XP 2100+ AMD Athlon XP 3000+ CPU Alias Thoroughbred-B CPU Alias Barton CPU Stepping B0 CPUID CPU Name AMD Athlon™ XP 2100+ CPUID Revision 0681h CPU Speed: CPU Clock 1729.83 MHz CPU Multiplier 13.0x Process: 0.13Micron (?) CPU FSB 133.06 MHz Memory Bus 133.06 MHz CPU Cache: L1 Code Cache 64 KB L1 Data Cache 64 KB Cache: L1/64K+64K L2 Cache 256 KB (On-Die, Full-Speed) Motherboard Properties: Motherboard ID 01/16/2003-nVidia-nForce-6A61BM49C-00 Motherboard Name MSI K7N2 (MS-6570) (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 1 ACR, 3 DIMM, Audio) Chipset Properties: Motherboard Chipset nVIDIA nForce2 SPP CAS Latency (CL) 2.5T RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 3T RAS Precharge (tRP) 3T RAS Active Time (tRAS) 6T SPD Memory Modules: Xerox (512 MB PC2100 DDR SDRAM) 512 MB PC2100 DDR SDRAM (CL 2.5 @ 133 MHz) (CL 2.0 @ 100 MHz) Corsair (512MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM) BIOS Properties: System BIOS Date 01/16/03 Video BIOS Date 06/16/03 Award BIOS Type Phoenix-Award BIOS v6.00PG Award BIOS Message W6570MS V3.2 011603 10:28:22 DMI BIOS Version 6.00 PG Graphics Processor Properties: DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0) Video Adapter nVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 GPU Code Name NV11 (AGP 10DE / 0110, Rev B2) GPU Clock 200 MHz Memory Clock 155 MHz Sensor Properties: Tsystem 33 °C (91 °F) Tcpu 40 °C (104 °F) Fcpu 4688 RPM Fcase 1962 RPM Vcore 1.62 V Vaux 1.65 V Vio 3.25 V Motherboard Properties: Motherboard ID 01/16/2003-nVidia-nForce-6A61BM49C-00 Motherboard Name MSI K7N2 (MS-6570) Front Side Bus Properties: FSB: 400/333/266MHz Bus Type DEC Alpha EV6 Bus Width 64-bit Real Clock 133 MHz (DDR) Effective Clock 267 MHz Bandwidth 2133 MB/s Memory Bus Properties: Bus Type DDR SDRAM Bus Width 64-bit Real Clock 133 MHz (DDR) Effective Clock 267 MHz Bandwidth 2133 MB/s Bandwidth: 3.2GB/sOrganization: 64M x 64 -BitWarranty: Lifetime Chipset Bus Properties: Bus Type HyperTransport v1.0 Bus Width 8-bit Motherboard Physical Info: CPU Sockets/Slots 1 Expansion Slots 5 PCI, 1 AGP, 1 ACR RAM Slots 3 DIMM Integrated Devices Audio Form Factor ATX Motherboard Size 230 mm x 300 mm Motherboard Chipset nForce2-SPP Extra Features Fuzzy Logic 4 Motherboard Manufacturer: Company Name Micro-Star International Product Information http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mai...ro_mbd_list.php BIOS Download http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios...pt_bos_list.php Physical Memory: Total 511 MB Used 226 MB Free 285 MB Utilization 44 % Swap Space: Total 1202 MB Used 196 MB Free 1006 MB Utilization 16 % Virtual Memory: Total 1714 MB Used 422 MB Free 1291 MB Utilization 25 % Please note I'm not even close to pushing this machine and I don't have a terrific amount to play with when/if I do decide to max use it [ Xerox (512 MB PC2100 DDR SDRAM) ] Memory Module Properties: Module Name Xerox Serial Number None Module Size 512 MB (2 rows, 4 banks) Module Type Unbuffered Memory Type DDR SDRAM Memory Speed PC2100 (133 MHz) Module Width 64 bit Module Voltage SSTL 2.5 Error Detection Method None Refresh Rate Normal (15.625 us), Self-Refresh Highest CAS Latency 2.5 (7.5 ns @ 133 MHz) 2nd Highest CAS Latency 2.0 (10.0 ns @ 100 MHz) Chipset Properties: Motherboard Chipset nVIDIA nForce2 SPP Memory Timings: CAS Latency (CL) 2.5T RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 3T RAS Precharge (tRP) 3T RAS Active Time (tRAS) 6T Memory Slots: DRAM Slot #1 512 MB (PC2100 DDR SDRAM) AGP Properties: AGP Version 2.00 AGP Status Enabled AGP Aperture Size 64 MB Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x Current AGP Speed 4x Fast-Write Supported, Disabled Side Band Addressing Supported, Disabled Chipset Manufacturer: Company Name NVIDIA Corporation Product Information http://www.nvidia.com/page/mobo.html Driver Download http://www.nvidia.com/drivers Problems & Suggestions: Problem Current AGP speed is lower than maximum supported. This may cause performance penalty. [ NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 (Microsoft Corporation) ] Video Adapter Properties: Device Description NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 (Microsoft Corporation) Adapter String GeForce2 MX/MX 400 BIOS String Version 3.11.01.50.00 Chip Type GeForce2 MX/MX 400 DAC Type Integrated RAMDAC Installed Drivers nv4_disp (6.14.10.5673 - nVIDIA Detonator 56.73) Memory Size 64 MB Video Adapter Manufacturer: Company Name NVIDIA Corporation Product Information http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=products Driver Download http://www.nvidia.com/drivers PCI / AGP Video Device Description Device Type nVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 Video Adapter nVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 3D Accelerator Graphics Processor Properties: Video Adapter nVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 GPU Code Name NV11 PCI Device 10DE / 0110 Transistors 19 million Process Technology 0.18u Bus Type AGP Memory Size 64 MB GPU Clock 200 MHz RAMDAC Clock 350 MHz Pixel Pipelines 2 TMU Per Pipeline 2 Vertex Shaders Not Supported Pixel Shaders 1 (v0.5) DirectX Hardware Support DirectX v7.0 Pixel Fillrate 400 MPixel/s Texel Fillrate 800 MTexel/s Memory Bus Properties: Bus Type DDR Bus Width 64-bit Real Clock 155 MHz (DDR) Effective Clock 310 MHz Bandwidth 2480 MB/s Graphics Processor Manufacturer: Company Name NVIDIA Corporation Product Information http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=products Driver Download http://www.nvidia.com/drivers [ Compaq S710 ] Monitor Properties: Monitor Name Compaq S710 Monitor ID CPQ1362 Model COMPAQ S710 Monitor Type 17" CRT Manufacture Date Week 37 / 2000 Serial Number 037CG43HC314 Max. Visible Display Size 32 cm x 24 cm (15.7") Picture Aspect Ratio 4:3 Horizontal Frequency 30 - 69 kHz Vertical Frequency 50 - 120 Hz Maximum Resolution 1280 x 1024 Gamma 2.77 DPMS Mode Support Standby, Suspend, Active-Off Supported Video Modes: 640 x 480 120 Hz 800 x 600 105 Hz 1024 x 768 85 Hz 1152 x 864 75 Hz 1280 x 1024 60 Hz Monitor Manufacturer: Company Name Hewlett-Packard Company Desktop Properties: Device Technology Raster Display Resolution 1024 x 768 Color Depth 32-bit Color Planes 1 Font Resolution 96 dpi Pixel Width / Height 36 / 36 Pixel Diagonal 51 Vertical Refresh Rate 60 Hz Desktop Effects: Combo-Box Animation Enabled Drop Shadow Effect Enabled Flat Menu Effect Enabled Font Smoothing Enabled Full Window Dragging Enabled Gradient Window Title Bars Enabled Hide Menu Access Keys Enabled Hot Tracking Effect Enabled Icon Title Wrapping Enabled List-Box Smooth Scrolling Enabled Menu Animation Enabled Menu Fade Effect Enabled Minimize/Restore Animation Enabled Mouse Cursor Shadow Enabled Selection Fade Effect Enabled ShowSounds Accessibility Feature Disabled ToolTip Animation Enabled ToolTip Fade Effect Enabled Windows Plus! Extension Disabled Problems & Suggestions: Problem At least 85 Hz vertical refresh rate is recommended for classic displays. Windows Audio Device Identifier Device Description midi-out.0 0001 0066 Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth mixer.0 0001 0068 NVIDIAŽ nForce™ Audio wave-in.0 0001 0065 NVIDIAŽ nForce™ Audio wave-in.1 0001 0050 Modem #0 Line Record wave-out.0 0001 0064 NVIDIAŽ nForce™ Audio wave-out.1 0001 0051 Modem #0 Line Playback [ Maxtor 6E040L0 ] Device Properties: Driver Description Maxtor 6E040L0 Driver Date 7/1/2001 Driver Version 5.1.2535.0 Driver Provider Microsoft INF File disk.inf Disk Device Physical Info: Manufacturer Maxtor Hard Disk Family DiamondMax Plus 8 Form Factor 3.5" Formatted Capacity 40 GB Disks 1 Recording Surfaces 1 Physical Dimensions 146.1 x 101.6 x 17.5 mm Max. Weight 510 g Average Rotational Latency 4.17 ms Rotational Speed 7200 RPM Interface Ultra-ATA/133 Buffer-to-Host Data Rate 133 MB/s Buffer Size 2 MB Device Manufacturer: Company Name Maxtor Corporation Product Information http://www.maxtor.com/en/products/ [ Maxtor 6Y120P0 ] Device Properties: Driver Description Maxtor 6Y120P0 Driver Date 7/1/2001 Driver Version 5.1.2535.0 Driver Provider Microsoft INF File disk.inf Disk Device Physical Info: Manufacturer Maxtor Hard Disk Family DiamondMax Plus 9 Form Factor 3.5" Formatted Capacity 120 GB Disks 2 Recording Surfaces 3 Physical Dimensions 146.1 x 101.6 x 26.1 mm Max. Weight 630 g Average Rotational Latency 4.17 ms Rotational Speed 7200 RPM Interface Ultra-ATA/133 Buffer-to-Host Data Rate 133 MB/s Buffer Size 8 MB Device Manufacturer: Company Name Maxtor Corporation Product Information http://www.maxtor.com/en/products/ [ _NEC DV-5800A ] Device Properties: Driver Description _NEC DV-5800A Driver Date 7/1/2001 Driver Version 5.1.2535.0 Driver Provider Microsoft INF File cdrom.inf Optical Drive Properties: Manufacturer NEC Device Type DVD-ROM Speed 16x/48x Device Manufacturer: Company Name NEC Corporation Product Information http://www.nec-global.com/prod/index.html [ SONY CD-RW CRX220E1 ] Device Properties: Driver Description SONY CD-RW CRX220E1 Driver Date 7/1/2001 Driver Version 5.1.2535.0 Driver Provider Microsoft INF File cdrom.inf Optical Drive Properties: Manufacturer Sony Device Type CD-RW Speed 52x/24x/52x Device Manufacturer: Company Name Sony Electronics Inc. Product Information http://www.storagebysony.com [ NVIDIA NForce MCP2 IDE Controller ] Device Properties: Driver Description NVIDIA NForce MCP2 IDE Controller Driver Date 5/13/2002 Driver Version 6.1.2600.0 Driver Provider NVIDIA INF File oem4.inf Device Resources: Port F000-F00F [ Primary IDE Channel ] Device Properties: Driver Description Primary IDE Channel Driver Date 7/1/2001 Driver Version 5.1.2600.0 Driver Provider Microsoft INF File mshdc.inf Device Resources: IRQ 14 Port 01F0-01F7 Port 03F6-03F6 [ Secondary IDE Channel ] Device Properties: Driver Description Secondary IDE Channel Driver Date 7/1/2001 Driver Version 5.1.2600.0 Driver Provider Microsoft INF File mshdc.inf Device Resources: IRQ 15 Port 0170-0177 Port 0376-0376 Logical Drives Drive Drive Type File System Total Size Used Space Free Space % Free Volume Serial A: Removable Disk C: Local Disk NTFS 39205 MB 6615 MB 32590 MB 83 % 4CE8-9584 D: (DISK2_VOL1) Local Disk NTFS 36240 MB 1617 MB 34623 MB 96 % E042-6F3E E: (DISK2_VOL2) Local Disk NTFS 80999 MB 1037 MB 79961 MB 99 % AC43-DC15 F: Optical Drive G: Optical Drive Physical Drives [ Drive #1 - Maxtor 6E040L0 (38 GB) ] Partition Partition Type Drive Start Offset Partition Length #1 (Active) NTFS C: 0 MB 39205 MB [ Drive #2 - Maxtor 6Y120P0 (114 GB) ] Partition Partition Type Drive Start Offset Partition Length #1 NTFS D: (DISK2_VOL1) 0 MB 36240 MB #2 NTFS E: (DISK2_VOL2) 36240 MB 80999 MB Optical Drives Model ID Manufacturer Device Type Speed _NEC DV-5800A NEC DVD-ROM 16x/48x SONY CD-RW CRX220E1 Sony CD-RW 52x/24x/52x ASPI Host ID LUN Device Type Vendor Model Rev Extra Information 00 00 00 Disk Drive Maxtor 6 E040L0 00 01 00 Disk Drive Maxtor 6 Y120P0 00 07 00 Host Adapter atapi 01 00 00 Optical Drive SONY CD- RW CRX220E1 01 01 00 Optical Drive _NEC DV- 5800A 01 07 00 Host Adapter atapi ATA [ Maxtor 6E040L0 (E19PLSAE) ] ATA Device Properties: Model ID Maxtor 6E040L0 Serial Number E19PLSAE Revision NAR61590 Parameters 79656 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector LBA Sectors 80293248 Buffer 2 MB (Dual Ported, Read Ahead) Multiple Sectors 16 ECC Bytes 57 Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4 Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 6 (ATA-133) Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 6 (ATA-133) Unformatted Capacity 39206 MB ATA Device Features: SMART Supported Security Mode Supported Power Management Supported Advanced Power Management Supported Write Cache Supported Host Protected Area Supported Power-Up In Standby Not Supported Automatic Acoustic Management Supported 48-bit LBA Not Supported Device Configuration Overlay Supported ATA Device Physical Info: Manufacturer Maxtor Hard Disk Family DiamondMax Plus 8 Form Factor 3.5" Formatted Capacity 40 GB Disks 1 Recording Surfaces 1 Physical Dimensions 146.1 x 101.6 x 17.5 mm Max. Weight 510 g Average Rotational Latency 4.17 ms Rotational Speed 7200 RPM Interface Ultra-ATA/133 Buffer-to-Host Data Rate 133 MB/s Buffer Size 2 MB ATA Device Manufacturer: Company Name Maxtor Corporation Product Information http://www.maxtor.com/en/products/ [ Maxtor 6Y120P0 (Y44SZFGE) ] ATA Device Properties: Model ID Maxtor 6Y120P0 Serial Number Y44SZFGE Revision YAR41BW0 Parameters 238216 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors per track, 512 bytes per sector LBA Sectors 240121728 Buffer 7936 KB (Dual Ported, Read Ahead) Multiple Sectors 16 ECC Bytes 57 Max. PIO Transfer Mode PIO 4 Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 6 (ATA-133) Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 6 (ATA-133) Unformatted Capacity 117247 MB ATA Device Features: SMART Supported Security Mode Supported Power Management Supported Advanced Power Management Supported Write Cache Supported Host Protected Area Supported Power-Up In Standby Not Supported Automatic Acoustic Management Supported 48-bit LBA Not Supported Device Configuration Overlay Supported ATA Device Physical Info: Manufacturer Maxtor Hard Disk Family DiamondMax Plus 9 Form Factor 3.5" Formatted Capacity 120 GB Disks 2 Recording Surfaces 3 Physical Dimensions 146.1 x 101.6 x 26.1 mm Max. Weight 630 g Average Rotational Latency 4.17 ms Rotational Speed 7200 RPM Interface Ultra-ATA/133 Buffer-to-Host Data Rate 133 MB/s Buffer Size 8 MB ATA Device Manufacturer: Company Name Maxtor Corporation Product Information http://www.maxtor.com/en/products/ SMART [ Maxtor 6E040L0 (E19PLSAE) ] ID Attribute Description Threshold Value Worst Data Status 03 Spin Up Time 63 223 222 9907 OK: Value is normal 04 Start/Stop Count 0 253 253 1179 OK: Always passing 05 Reallocated Sector Count 63 253 253 0 OK: Value is normal 06 Read Channel Margin 100 253 253 0 OK: Value is normal 07 Seek Error Rate 0 253 252 0 OK: Always passing 08 Seek Time Performance 187 246 229 44759 OK: Value is normal 09 Power-On Time Count 0 238 238 63509 OK: Always passing 0A Spin Retry Count 157 253 252 0 OK: Value is normal 0B Calibration Retry Count 223 253 252 0 OK: Value is normal 0C Power Cycle Count 0 251 251 1117 OK: Always passing C0 Power-Off Retract Count 0 252 252 1058 OK: Always passing C1 Load/Unload Cycle Count 0 252 252 5277 OK: Always passing C2 Temperature 0 253 253 28 OK: Always passing C3 Hardware ECC Recovered 0 253 252 30636 OK: Always passing C4 Reallocation Event Count 0 253 253 0 OK: Always passing C5 Current Pending Sector Count 0 253 253 0 OK: Always passing C6 Off-Line Uncorrectable Sector Count 0 253 253 0 OK: Always passing C7 Ultra ATA CRC Error Rate 0 193 160 41 OK: Always passing C8 Write Error Rate 0 253 252 0 OK: Always passing C9 <vendor-specific> 0 253 251 2 OK: Always passing CA <vendor-specific> 0 253 252 0 OK: Always passing CB <vendor-specific> 180 253 252 6 OK: Value is normal CC <vendor-specific> 0 253 252 0 OK: Always passing CD <vendor-specific> 0 253 252 0 OK: Always passing CF <vendor-specific> 0 253 252 0 OK: Always passing D0 <vendor-specific> 0 253 252 0 OK: Always passing D1 <vendor-specific> 0 187 187 0 OK: Always passing 63 <vendor-specific> 0 253 253 0 OK: Always passing 64 <vendor-specific> 0 253 253 0 OK: Always passing 65 <vendor-specific> 0 253 253 0 OK: Always passing [ Maxtor 6Y120P0 (Y44SZFGE) ] ID Attribute Description Threshold Value Worst Data Status 03 Spin Up Time 63 196 190 17782 OK: Value is normal 04 Start/Stop Count 0 253 253 226 OK: Always passing 05 Reallocated Sector Count 63 253 253 2 OK: Value is normal 06 Read Channel Margin 100 253 253 0 OK: Value is normal 07 Seek Error Rate 0 253 252 0 OK: Always passing 08 Seek Time Performance 187 252 242 58438 OK: Value is normal 09 Power-On Time Count 0 250 250 1333 OK: Always passing 0A Spin Retry Count 157 253 252 0 OK: Value is normal 0B Calibration Retry Count 223 253 252 0 OK: Value is normal 0C Power Cycle Count 0 253 253 294 OK: Always passing C0 Power-Off Retract Count 0 253 253 0 OK: Always passing C1 Load/Unload Cycle Count 0 253 253 0 OK: Always passing C2 Temperature 0 253 253 27 OK: Always passing C3 Hardware ECC Recovered 0 253 252 697 OK: Always passing C4 Reallocation Event Count 0 253 253 0 OK: Always passing C5 Current Pending Sector Count 0 253 253 2 OK: Always passing C6 Off-Line Uncorrectable Sector Count 0 253 253 0 OK: Always passing C7 Ultra ATA CRC Error Rate 0 198 193 6 OK: Always passing C8 Write Error Rate 0 253 252 0 OK: Always passing C9 <vendor-specific> 0 253 252 4 OK: Always passing CA <vendor-specific> 0 253 252 0 OK: Always passing CB <vendor-specific> 180 253 252 0 OK: Value is normal CC <vendor-specific> 0 253 252 0 OK: Always passing CD <vendor-specific> 0 253 252 0 OK: Always passing CF <vendor-specific> 0 253 252 0 OK: Always passing D0 <vendor-specific> 0 253 252 0 OK: Always passing D1 <vendor-specific> 0 253 253 0 OK: Always passing 63 <vendor-specific> 0 253 253 0 OK: Always passing 64 <vendor-specific> 0 253 253 0 OK: Always passing 65 <vendor-specific> 0 253 253 0 OK: Always passing [ Primary Display Driver ] DirectDraw Device Properties: DirectDraw Driver Name display DirectDraw Driver Description Primary Display Driver Hardware Driver nv4_disp.dll Hardware Description NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400 (Microsoft Corporation) Direct3D Device Properties: Available Local Video Memory 62272 KB Available Non-Local Video Memory (AGP) 64511 KB Rendering Bit Depths 16, 32 Z-Buffer Bit Depths 16, 24 Min Texture Size 1 x 1 Max Texture Size 2048 x 2048 Vertex Shader Version Not Supported Pixel Shader Version Not Supported Direct3D Device Features: Additive Texture Blending Supported AGP Texturing Supported Anisotropic Filtering Supported Bilinear Filtering Supported Cubic Environment Mapping Supported Cubic Filtering Not Supported Decal-Alpha Texture Blending Supported Decal Texture Blending Supported Directional Lights Not Supported DirectX Texture Compression Supported DirectX Volumetric Texture Compression Not Supported Dithering Supported Dot3 Texture Blending Supported Dynamic Textures Supported Edge Antialiasing Not Supported Environmental Bump Mapping Not Supported Environmental Bump Mapping + Luminance Not Supported Factor Alpha Blending Supported Geometric Hidden-Surface Removal Not Supported Guard Band Supported Hardware Scene Rasterization Supported Hardware Transform & Lighting Supported Legacy Depth Bias Not Supported Mipmap LOD Bias Adjustments Supported Mipmapped Cube Textures Supported Mipmapped Volume Textures Not Supported Modulate-Alpha Texture Blending Supported Modulate Texture Blending Supported Non-Square Textures Supported N-Patches Not Supported Perspective Texture Correction Supported Point Lights Not Supported Point Sampling Supported Projective Textures Supported Quintic Bezier Curves & B-Splines Not Supported Range-Based Fog Supported Rectangular & Triangular Patches Not Supported Rendering In Windowed Mode Supported Scissor Test Not Supported Slope-Scale Based Depth Bias Not Supported Specular Flat Shading Supported Specular Gouraud Shading Supported Specular Phong Shading Not Supported Spherical Mapping Not Supported Spot Lights Not Supported Stencil Buffers Supported Sub-Pixel Accuracy Supported Table Fog Supported Texture Alpha Blending Supported Texture Clamping Supported Texture Mirroring Supported Texture Transparency Supported Texture Wrapping Supported Triangle Culling Not Supported Trilinear Filtering Supported Two-Sided Stencil Test Not Supported Vertex Alpha Blending Supported Vertex Fog Supported Vertex Tweening Not Supported Volume Textures Not Supported W-Based Fog Supported W-Buffering Supported Z-Based Fog Supported Z-Bias Supported Z-Test Not Supported DirectX Sound [ Primary Sound Driver ] DirectSound Device Properties: Device Description Primary Sound Driver Driver Module Primary Buffers 1 Min / Max Secondary Buffers Sample Rate 200 / 100000 Hz Primary Buffers Sound Formats 8-bit, 16-bit, Mono, Stereo Secondary Buffers Sound Formats 8-bit, 16-bit, Mono, Stereo Total / Free Sound Buffers 64 / 61 Total / Free Static Sound Buffers 64 / 61 Total / Free Streaming Sound Buffers 64 / 61 Total / Free 3D Sound Buffers 0 / 0 Total / Free 3D Static Sound Buffers 0 / 0 Total / Free 3D Streaming Sound Buffers 0 / 0 DirectSound Device Features: Certified Driver Yes Emulated Device No Precise Sample Rate Supported [ NVIDIAŽ nForce™ Audio ] DirectSound Device Properties: Device Description NVIDIAŽ nForce™ Audio Driver Module nvapu.sys Primary Buffers 1 Min / Max Secondary Buffers Sample Rate 200 / 100000 Hz Primary Buffers Sound Formats 8-bit, 16-bit, Mono, Stereo Secondary Buffers Sound Formats 8-bit, 16-bit, Mono, Stereo Total / Free Sound Buffers 64 / 61 Total / Free Static Sound Buffers 64 / 61 Total / Free Streaming Sound Buffers 64 / 61 Total / Free 3D Sound Buffers 0 / 0 Total / Free 3D Static Sound Buffers 0 / 0 Total / Free 3D Streaming Sound Buffers 0 / 0 DirectSound Device Features: Certified Driver Yes Emulated Device No Precise Sample Rate Supported DirectX Music [ NVIDIAŽ nForce™ Audio ] DirectMusic Device Properties: Device Description NVIDIAŽ nForce™ Audio Synthesizer Type Software Device Class Output Port Device Type WDM Multimedia Audio Channels 2 MIDI Channels 16000 Voices 1000 Available Memory System Memory DirectMusic Device Features: Built-In GM Instrument Set No Built-In Roland GS Sound Set No DirectSound Not Supported DLS L1 Sample Collections Supported DLS L2 Sample Collections Not Supported External MIDI Port No Fixed DLS Memory Size No Port Sharing Not Supported Chorus Effect Not Supported Delay Effect Not Supported Reverb Effect Supported [ Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated] ] DirectMusic Device Properties: Device Description Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated] Synthesizer Type Hardware Device Class Output Port Device Type Windows Multimedia MIDI Channels 16 DirectMusic Device Features: Built-In GM Instrument Set No Built-In Roland GS Sound Set No DirectSound Not Supported DLS L1 Sample Collections Not Supported DLS L2 Sample Collections Not Supported External MIDI Port No Fixed DLS Memory Size No Port Sharing Supported Chorus Effect Not Supported Delay Effect Not Supported Reverb Effect Not Supported [ Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated] ] DirectMusic Device Properties: Device Description Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated] Synthesizer Type Hardware Device Class Output Port Device Type Windows Multimedia MIDI Channels 16 DirectMusic Device Features: Built-In GM Instrument Set No Built-In Roland GS Sound Set No DirectSound Not Supported DLS L1 Sample Collections Not Supported DLS L2 Sample Collections Not Supported External MIDI Port No Fixed DLS Memory Size No Port Sharing Supported Chorus Effect Not Supported Delay Effect Not Supported Reverb Effect Not Supported [ Microsoft Synthesizer ] DirectMusic Device Properties: Device Description Microsoft Synthesizer Synthesizer Type Software Device Class Output Port Device Type User-Mode Synthesizer Audio Channels 2 MIDI Channels 16000 Voices 1000 Available Memory System Memory DirectMusic Device Features: Built-In GM Instrument Set No Built-In Roland GS Sound Set No DirectSound Supported DLS L1 Sample Collections Supported DLS L2 Sample Collections Supported External MIDI Port No Fixed DLS Memory Size No Port Sharing Not Supported Chorus Effect Not Supported Delay Effect Not Supported Reverb Effect Supported DirectX Input [ Mouse ] DirectInput Device Properties: Device Description Mouse Device Type Mouse Device Subtype Unknown Axes 3 Buttons/Keys 3 DirectInput Device Features: Emulated Device Yes Alias Device No Polled Device No Polled Data Format No Attack Force Feedback Not Supported Deadband Force Feedback Not Supported Fade Force Feedback Not Supported Force Feedback Not Supported Saturation Force Feedback Not Supported +/- Force Feedback Coefficients Not Supported +/- Force Feedback Saturation Not Supported [ Keyboard ] DirectInput Device Properties: Device Description Keyboard Device Type Keyboard Device Subtype IBM PC Enhanced 101/102-key or Microsoft Natural keyboard Buttons/Keys 128 DirectInput Device Features: Emulated Device Yes Alias Device No Polled Device No Polled Data Format No Attack Force Feedback Not Supported Deadband Force Feedback Not Supported Fade Force Feedback Not Supported Force Feedback Not Supported Saturation Force Feedback Not Supported +/- Force Feedback Coefficients Not Supported +/- Force Feedback Saturation Not Supported [ Lexmark X5100 Series ] DirectInput Device Properties: Device Description Lexmark X5100 Series Device Type Unknown Device Subtype Unknown DirectInput Device Features: Emulated Device Yes Alias Device No Polled Device No Polled Data Format No Attack Force Feedback Not Supported Deadband Force Feedback Not Supported Fade Force Feedback Not Supported Force Feedback Not Supported Saturation Force Feedback Not Supported +/- Force Feedback Coefficients Not Supported +/- Force Feedback Saturation Not Supported Categories below double the amount of data that has been posted thus far, so it's not included. Basically each device and it's driver properties are documented in the missing data. Normal setup when the parts are assembled and winXP is loaded will fill in all the right details Windows Devices [ Devices ] Device Properties: sample listing only Driver Description USB Composite Device Driver Date 7/1/2001 Driver Version 5.1.2600.0 Driver Provider Microsoft INF File usb.inf Hardware ID USB\Vid_043d&Pid_0065&Rev_0001 Physical Devices PCI Devices: This post has been edited by phawgg: Oct 21 2004, 06:45 PM -------------------- patiently patrolling, plenty of persisant pests n' problems ...
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Oct 21 2004, 11:01 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 60 Joined: 9-October 04 Member No.: 3,451 |
Thanks for everyones help thus far. Just getting started doing some research. A few general questions I have at the molment.
1) Should I venture into 64-bit Technology? Any real advantages for my usage? I'm assuming that it would be better for future upgrades? Honestly do not know much about 64 bit. Suggested processor/MOBO by phawgg: 136.00 AMD Athlon XP 3000+ "Barton", 400 FSB, 512K Cache Processor - OEM 63.00 MSI "K7N2 Delta2-LSR" NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 Chipset Motherboard For AMD Socket A CPU -RETAIL Looked through Newegg. Seemed to have good reviews on: 132.00 AMD Athlon 64 2800+, 512KB L2 Cache, 64-bit Processor - OEM 89.00 ASUS "K8N" NVIDIA nForce3 Chipset Motherboard For AMD Socket 754 CPU -RETAIL About $25 difference in price. Pros and Cons? 2) Started looking at some cases. Plan on getting a lower end case to make budget. Will probably get one with an included power supply. What is minimum power supply I should be looking at? 350W? Will help me make a decision on the case. 3) What is the difference in OEM and Retail. Just heatsink and fan included with retail? Thanks, Chad |
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Oct 21 2004, 11:50 PM
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Learning Daily Group: Members Posts: 4,543 Joined: 9-July 04 From: Washington State, USA Member No.: 1,322 |
just came back from office depot, turned an ink cartridge in trade for a ream of 20# Bond. Saw these ads.
I noticed the AMD Athlon 600.00 900.00 I don't know much about the 64-Bit, but I think it being new, your're paying for the "cutting edge". In what way, exactly & how much are good questions. I'd wonder about software availablity. I just haven't done any research into it yet, sorry. 
This post has been edited by phawgg: Oct 21 2004, 11:55 PM -------------------- patiently patrolling, plenty of persisant pests n' problems ...
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Oct 22 2004, 01:37 AM
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Learning Daily Group: Members Posts: 4,543 Joined: 9-July 04 From: Washington State, USA Member No.: 1,322 |
Or, looking at it a little differently
Compaq Presario Model SR1230NX 778-232 KDS Model XF-7b 556-512 17" monitor HP Model 3845 430-888 printer $856.09 AMD Athlon XP processor 3200+ 512MB PC2700 DDR SDRAM memory 160GB harddrive DVD+RW double layer drive/CD-ROM drive desktop computer/ monitor printer <230.00> <50.00> $576.09 after rebates it runs winXP Home HP Pavilion Model M1160N 778-264 $1049.99 AMD Athlon 64 processor 3400+ 512MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM memory 200GB harddrive DVD+RW double layer drive/CD-ROM drive desktop computer <200.00> $849.99 after rebates it runs winXP MCE 2005, and what software also works on this? This post has been edited by phawgg: Oct 22 2004, 01:40 AM -------------------- patiently patrolling, plenty of persisant pests n' problems ...
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Oct 22 2004, 01:54 AM
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