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Drm Gone Bad DRM, rootkits and Sony
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Posted 01 November 2005 - 07:36 AM
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Posted 01 November 2005 - 11:44 AM
That IS disturbing! I have one copy-protected CD, but I did a complete system restore recently (set the computer back to factory settings), so the registry files should be gone. I'm disabling autorun before I play that CD again! This whole thing really stinks! I can't believe someone would do something like that! 
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Posted 01 November 2005 - 12:20 PM
Good read, Mr Alpha.
Just goes to show you how the DRM is getting out of hand.
Now Sony is engaging in illegal activities, to prevent illegal activities.
What a joke.
Just goes to show you how the DRM is getting out of hand.
Now Sony is engaging in illegal activities, to prevent illegal activities.
What a joke.
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Posted 01 November 2005 - 12:48 PM
That's quite the article. Way out of hand. Bad enugh got spend alot of time just to get a 100 AOL thingys off PC every time my kid installs something. But hidden,possibly damaging and you need to be quite an expert to rid yourself of stuff. Some body needs a can of whoopa** opened on them.
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Posted 02 November 2005 - 04:12 PM
Some updates:
Firstly I found this: F-Secure Virus Descriptions : XCP DRM Software
Secondly: If you want to get rid of it Sony will provide instructions for removing it, if you use this form. According to F-Secure they will install a bunch of ActiveX components, though.
Thirdly: Sony to patch copy protected CD
Firstly I found this: F-Secure Virus Descriptions : XCP DRM Software
Secondly: If you want to get rid of it Sony will provide instructions for removing it, if you use this form. According to F-Secure they will install a bunch of ActiveX components, though.
Thirdly: Sony to patch copy protected CD
This post has been edited by Mr Alpha: 02 November 2005 - 05:28 PM
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Posted 03 November 2005 - 11:13 PM
tg1911, on Nov 1 2005, 12:20 PM, said:
Good read, Mr Alpha.
Just goes to show you how the DRM is getting out of hand.
Now Sony is engaging in illegal activities, to prevent illegal activities.
What a joke.
Just goes to show you how the DRM is getting out of hand.
Now Sony is engaging in illegal activities, to prevent illegal activities.
What a joke.
Its kind of sad when corporated greed gets involved
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Posted 04 November 2005 - 12:13 AM
quietman7, on Nov 3 2005, 07:06 AM, said:
boopme, on Nov 3 2005, 07:15 PM, said:
Looks like SONY only offers to remove the cloaking driver. There's still no uninstall for the DRMs
It appears this topic is being discussed in 2 forums
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Posted 04 November 2005 - 08:37 AM
boopme, on Nov 4 2005, 07:13 AM, said:
quietman7, on Nov 3 2005, 07:06 AM, said:
boopme, on Nov 3 2005, 07:15 PM, said:
Looks like SONY only offers to remove the cloaking driver. There's still no uninstall for the DRMs
It appears this topic is being discussed in 2 forums
) Anyhow, this is quickly becoming unreal.
WoW-hackers have been talking about using DRM-rootkit to hide cheating-programs from Blizzards sniffer.
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Hey anyone burn an ISO of the disk so we can reduce the cost to zipola?
Also, the lates from F-Secure's weblog:
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A member of our IT security team pointed out quite chilling thought about what might happen if record companies continue adding rootkit based copy protection into their CDs.
In order to hide from the system a rootkit must interface with the OS on very low level and in those areas theres no room for error.
It is hard enough to program something on that level, without having to worry about any other programs trying to do something with same parts of the OS.
Thus if there would be two DRM rootkits on the same system trying to hook same APIs, the results would be highly unpredictable. Or actually, a system crash is quite predictable result in such situation.
In order to hide from the system a rootkit must interface with the OS on very low level and in those areas theres no room for error.
It is hard enough to program something on that level, without having to worry about any other programs trying to do something with same parts of the OS.
Thus if there would be two DRM rootkits on the same system trying to hook same APIs, the results would be highly unpredictable. Or actually, a system crash is quite predictable result in such situation.
This could still go far, there are talks about lawsuits. If we're really lucky this could become a turning-point for DRM.
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Posted 07 November 2005 - 05:28 PM
Head over to Mark's Sysinternals Blog, where Mark has dug a bit deeper, and tries to get an uninstaller. Plus, First4Internet responds, to which Mark responds. Have a read.
It seem nobody at Sony nor F4I has any idea what they really are doing.
EDIT: Talk about not knowing what your doing. Have a look here.
It seem nobody at Sony nor F4I has any idea what they really are doing.
EDIT: Talk about not knowing what your doing. Have a look here.
This post has been edited by Mr Alpha: 07 November 2005 - 05:40 PM
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