BleepingComputer.com: Firefox Vs Ie

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Just what's needed, another toolbar to reduce available browser viewing window, and adding more bloat to IE.

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If not in "catch-up", then why are they just now considering tabbed browsing?

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Maybe so, but Firefox doesn't wait 3 months to issue a fix.

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Just don't see it happening.

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The good thing about multiple browsers, give us the choice. to use the one we prefer.

tg1911, on Nov 19 2005, 09:54 AM, said:

Yea I don't see Mozilla selling Firefox to Microsoft, even if it would be place on every computer. If that happened I would start using Opera.

micaman, on Nov 19 2005, 05:02 AM, said:

I don't think they have. Once they release Firefox 1.5 final, they will probably get an additional 150million downloads.

This post has been edited by yano: 19 November 2005 - 03:00 PM

I just think that Internet Explorer is still a good product. When IE7 is released, it will offer the tabbed feature without an extra toolbar. And any product that has 85% or so of the market is not really playing catch-up, they knew they were working on IE7 and that it would be included. Microsoft is working to bring security under wraps and I believe 2006 will be very different for them. If Firefox ever has the amount of products that Microsoft does, they may have to take more time to respond to their updates.

I do love having many different browsers, as they have been put to good use by me. And I really like Firefox and feel it is a quailty program, I just think it is fresh and I have learned that all software that is exposed to the web has and will be hammered by security issues at some point. Malware writers will hit whoever, and as Mozilla stresses the secure nature of their product, it will motivate the hackers to get busy. I do not feel 100% secure code can be written today. And for this, all companies will at some time or another deal with problems. I think Firefox, Google and the whole bunch will go through the same "wash" that Microsoft did/does.

I do agree that it is unlikely that Mozilla would be looking to sell Firefox, my thoughts were simply looking in the direction of change. What I mean is that when they went from being Mozilla Foundation to Mozilla Corp., things changed. I do not know what, but I have run a business for many years, and understand that the focus must have shifted in some way. How is anybody's guess. It may take time, and yes, maybe nothing will - time will tell.

Lastly, I wonder if they will pick up an additional 150 million users, or will the same 150 million simply switch to this new edition?

I know my take is not the popular one, but it is just my thoughts on the matter. As of right now, you guys are soo right. Give it two - three months and maybe not?

After all is said and done, I think we need all of the browsers and then some. Friendly discussions like this is what makes for a better world all around!

This post has been edited by micaman: 22 November 2005 - 05:23 AM

You can ALT+TAB between every window.

Personally,
I dont like Firefox mainly because some sites I visit on the browser I find their graphics disappear. I used the 1.5 version and had this problem. Now I use Netscape 8.0 and no issues so far.

FireFox is awsome!! I love it!! Never going back to IE (except for MS update)

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The folks at Mozilla made this change, according to what they have written, more to please the lawyers and accountants than to make a ton of money. They maintain that they will continue to follow open source policies and that their products will always be free.

I would also add to the discussion that as long as IE is integrated into the Windows Operating System (to the extent that you cannot install IE), it will be less safe than a browser that is not a part of the OS. I would also suggest that the Mozilla folks have been far more responsive to patching their products than has MS- - -they do not wait until the second Tuesday of the Month to issue critical patches (MS was bullied into issuing a patch for the last major flaw ahead of schedule) nor do they typically take several months to patch their products.
One should applaud MS for taking the time out of their busy schedule to bring IE up to modern standards, but realise that once it is done,MS will go back to sleep or work on another bloated programme or OS and ignore IE for several years, while the Mozilla team will be working on providing innovative features with each version release.

Regards to all,
John

Hey is there anyway to copy across all my favourites from IE to FireFox?

I saw at the start when installing it mentioned it, but because I had a virus on IE at the time I clicked no. However now I would like to use Firefox all the time (am one of the converted.hehe) yet don't really have the time to sit down and transfer all my saved favourite sites across.

Any ideas? Really loving this FireFox at the mo Nick.

This post has been edited by nick_kjaer: 12 February 2006 - 09:12 AM

File
Import
Chose IE from the menu and a wizard will guide you through it.
Regards,
John

For those interested, I am linking to two articles I found today that compare MS and Mozilla on 1) general security and 2) speed with which published exploits are patched. Guess which won on both counts?

Vulnerability compared

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http://www.informationweek.com/windows/sho...cleID=179102695

Patched and unpatched versions were used against specific kinds of threats. However,
"...one of the research's most startling conclusions was the number of spyware-infected sites. One out of every 20 executable files on Web sites is spyware, and 1 in 25 domains contain at least one piece of spyware waiting for victims." (emphasis mine)

Patching reponse speed compared

Brian Kreps in the Washington Post did a informal test of MS and Mozilla in their reponses to published security threats, and concluded:

"Over the past year, Mozilla averaged about 21 days before it issued fixes for flaws in Firefox, compared with the 135 days it took for Microsoft to address problems."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...6021100217.html

Regards,
John

This post has been edited by jgweed: 12 February 2006 - 01:16 PM