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 Nov 6 2009, 04:31 AM
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 Forum Regular  Group: Members Posts: 227 Joined: 10-July 08 From: Seadrift,Tx. Member No.: 221,637  |
QUOTE(IrishGrimReaper @ Nov 5 2009, 12:37 PM)  QUOTE(IrishGrimReaper @ Nov 4 2009, 07:01 PM) Also, how much you willing to spend and what you gonna use the comp for? Tbh. Or did I miss you post it  If you don't post a budget, I'll assume your budget is endless. If so be it, get a bigger case and a 5850 :D I do suggest change the case to something else. Antec 300 would work wonders. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...9-042-_-Product Well Lad, I see your a fan of the Antec 300! A really quiet one that one. I have several clients who have requested this case. My last build was a Linux openSUSE os, MSI board, AMD 5600 cpu,EVGA 8600 graphics, really quiet. Cheers! Alan -------------------- Vista Ultimate 32 bit/Intel e 5300 cpu/ECS G41T-M2 mainboard/G max4500 onboard graphics/4gigs OCZ 800Mhz ram/ Diamond XS 7.1 Dac line-in to Insignia Amp/ Cambridge SoundWorks and Infinity RS1001 speakers
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Nov 6 2009, 10:03 AM
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 Forum Regular Group: HJT Sophomore Classmen Posts: 150 Joined: 20-August 09 From: Ireland Member No.: 366,963 |
QUOTE(audioAl @ Nov 6 2009, 09:31 AM) QUOTE(IrishGrimReaper @ Nov 5 2009, 12:37 PM) QUOTE(IrishGrimReaper @ Nov 4 2009, 07:01 PM) Also, how much you willing to spend and what you gonna use the comp for? Tbh. Or did I miss you post it If you don't post a budget, I'll assume your budget is endless. If so be it, get a bigger case and a 5850 :D I do suggest change the case to something else. Antec 300 would work wonders. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...9-042-_-Product Well Lad, I see your a fan of the Antec 300! A really quiet one that one. I have several clients who have requested this case. My last build was a Linux openSUSE os, MSI board, AMD 5600 cpu,EVGA 8600 graphics, really quiet. Cheers! Alan It's a great case for it's price!  (Must say though, when it comes to am Antec 900. I'll do anything to stop someone buying it!)Made a mistake on the build I posted too, I linked the wrong UD4P Mobo. This is the one I ment. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...8-378-_-Product This post has been edited by IrishGrimReaper: Nov 6 2009, 10:06 AM -------------------- |~|i7 920-D0@3.9Ghz|~|Noctua NH-U12P|~|P6T Deluxe V2|~|OcZ 3x2GB DDR3 1600Mhz|~|PNY GTX 275 898MB|~|Corsair HX 520|~|Xonar Dx 7.1|~|Lian Li P80|~|Samsung T220|~|G9|~|G11|~|Intel SSD X25M:G2-80GB|~|Windows 7 Home Premium 64|~|SteelSeries Siberia White|~|
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Nov 6 2009, 01:24 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 16 Joined: 3-November 09 Member No.: 398,007 |
Here we go, I think I have a decision made.(at least until someone recommends something else:))
I am going to stay with the Phenom II X2 550 BE Changed MB to http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128398 GIGABYTE GA-MA790GPT-UD3H AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail I am considering changing the video card to http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814102848 SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100269VXLE Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail I decided that if I am going to spend more maybe it should be in the graphics. My only concern is will the PS I have selected handle this card. As for the case I don't quite understand why the Antec is being recommended over the one I chose. The Raidmax is very similiar in physical dimensions yet has twice the fans so I think I must be missing something here. Have at it guys:) |
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Nov 6 2009, 01:37 PM
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Forum Regular Group: HJT Sophomore Classmen Posts: 150 Joined: 20-August 09 From: Ireland Member No.: 366,963 |
Can I ask why are you gonna stay with the Dual Core? You can get a quad core into you budget?
DJBPace and I both posted something that is better. It makes no sense to not get a Quad Core now that you can, every game that's gonna come out will support Quad Cores, meaning you get better performance. And personally I'd stick with a 5xxx series card, although the 4890 is better it's not DX11, no DX11 games yet but they will come in time. If you want to spend more on a GPU go for the 5850, I considered buying this myself for awhile but I want to wait it out till Christmas. The reason I advised a different case, it doesn't really have to be the Antec. The problem I have with that Raidmax is the fact the reviews have it as an average case, 69% gave it 5 stars compared to the 79% of the Antec and the Antec is cheaper. Honestly that Raidmax just looks like a cheaply made case, and I think the reviews reflect that. It's not just the specs you need to look at when buying a case, people's experiences with it are what you should look out for, they will be the ones telling you what the case is like to work with. If the case is made of cheap parts, do you think the manufacturer would say that? No, it takes the people using it. If you will, post all the build you're considering buying now. PSU and everything else. This post has been edited by IrishGrimReaper: Nov 6 2009, 01:39 PM -------------------- |~|i7 920-D0@3.9Ghz|~|Noctua NH-U12P|~|P6T Deluxe V2|~|OcZ 3x2GB DDR3 1600Mhz|~|PNY GTX 275 898MB|~|Corsair HX 520|~|Xonar Dx 7.1|~|Lian Li P80|~|Samsung T220|~|G9|~|G11|~|Intel SSD X25M:G2-80GB|~|Windows 7 Home Premium 64|~|SteelSeries Siberia White|~|
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Nov 6 2009, 03:52 PM
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 Forum Addict Group: BC Advisor Posts: 2,150 Joined: 24-June 06 From: Pace University - New York City Campus Member No.: 73,266 |
QUOTE(IrishGrimReaper @ Nov 6 2009, 01:37 PM) Can I ask why are you gonna stay with the Dual Core? You can get a quad core into you budget? I was curious as to that myself, if you play newer games then the quad core will offer a substantial improvement over a dual. Of course, the game will need to designed for more than two cores. The 4890 is also a good choice if you're really counting pennies, but the 5770 offers most of the same plus it takes less power, is DX11 capable, and produces less heat. Please post your entire parts list so we can see where you stand now. --------------------  |
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Nov 6 2009, 10:45 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 16 Joined: 3-November 09 Member No.: 398,007 |
My original budget was about $950 (including OS and Monitor) - Here is why. I was looking at the Acer Aspire U5802A Quad Core Q9400 ($800 to start then $750) and an HP ( see my post in buying a new computer). Based on those responses and my own desire to get back in to computers ( I used to follow developments much more) I decided to build my own to get the better of all components rather than a few good and a few mediocre ( which is what I see in the prebuilts).
After reading many of the ratings on the Phenom II 550 BE, I saw many people stating that it could be unlocked and compete with the quad cores. This, with the added savings seemed like a logical choice. My choices to change MB's was mainly due to the memory standard and the availability of firewire. Looking to the future I thought the firewire would be a good option. The future is also why I decided to change from the GTS 250 to a Radeon video card to possibly take advantage of crossfire. (Keep in mind that I am only an occasional gamer but want quality video when I do play and may want to add a blueray player.) I would say that the video has been the hardest decision based on your inputs and reviews that I have found throughout the web. I have even considered spending the extra money to go to the GTX 260 but not sure I can get a MB to work with my other wants and budget. I'm not sure why the 5770 is cheaper than the 4890 considering it is newer and DX11. Here is the complete build as currently planned but as you can tell that is subject to change. (Most susceptible to change would be the video card) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811156209 RAIDMAX SMILODON ATX-612WB530P Black 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case With 530W Modular LED Power ... - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDet...st=Combo.269251 AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Callisto 3.1GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor Model HDZ550WFGIBOX - Retail MSI NF750-G55 AM3 NVIDIA nForce 750a SLI HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820227324 OCZ Special Ops Urban Elite 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model ... - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822136283 Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive -Bare Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814102848 SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100269VXLE Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811156063 OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI 600W ATX12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDet...2535.13-128-398 GIGABYTE GA-MA790GPT-UD3H AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail Acronis True Image Home 2009 OEM - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827118030 Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835233030 XIGMATEK PTI-G3606 thermal grease - Retail (This is because I wasn't sure if I wanted an aftermarket of stock cpu cooler.) 787.90+33.67(s/h)=821.57-55.00(Rebates)=766.57 This plus Win7 full at another site for 119.98(? s/h)=866.55 I also need a monitor at $150 to $200 for the ones I have considered = 1036.55-1086.55 |
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Nov 7 2009, 03:03 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 16 Joined: 3-November 09 Member No.: 398,007 |
OK I figured out what you guys have been saying. What do you think about this build?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827118030 Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811129066 Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822136283 Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive -Bare Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231193 G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDet...st=Combo.293441 AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGIBOX - Retail ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDet...st=Combo.274500 SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail Antec TruePower New TP-750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE ... - Retail This comes to $794.48 (w s/h) - $30 (rebates) = $764.48 Then add OS at $119.98+s/h and a monitor yot to be determined. It is pretty close to where I wanted to bit, maybe a bit high but I think this is with all good components. What additional cables will I need? Thanks for the help!!! |
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Nov 7 2009, 03:25 PM
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Forum Regular Group: HJT Sophomore Classmen Posts: 150 Joined: 20-August 09 From: Ireland Member No.: 366,963 |
It looks really good! You won't need any additional cables, the motherboard will come with about 4 Sata cables atleast I'd think. Mine came with 6, so that shouldn't be a problem.
One thing I'd add is a Mugen 2 CPU cooler, it's $30 but well worth it in my books the stock coolers for CPU's tend to be noisy. And for $30 for something can you could OC comfortable with aswell it's a great buy. But in saying that, it's not totally necessary just what I'd do. If you're looking for a moniter DJBpace should have some good recommendations for you. I use my T220 Samsung(not the HD version) and it's great. -------------------- |~|i7 920-D0@3.9Ghz|~|Noctua NH-U12P|~|P6T Deluxe V2|~|OcZ 3x2GB DDR3 1600Mhz|~|PNY GTX 275 898MB|~|Corsair HX 520|~|Xonar Dx 7.1|~|Lian Li P80|~|Samsung T220|~|G9|~|G11|~|Intel SSD X25M:G2-80GB|~|Windows 7 Home Premium 64|~|SteelSeries Siberia White|~|
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Nov 10 2009, 02:33 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 16 Joined: 3-November 09 Member No.: 398,007 |
Got a questions on the OS. On the oem version of Win7 it says that the builder is responsible for support. I don't get this. My last computer I bought at a show and it has the OEM version on it. I guess I don't really understand what the "support" actually is. I guess I can't recall needing any support for my XP Home version. Also, I read that the registering or authentication is supposed to be done by by the builder and then does not require anything to be done by the end user, which is actually me. What is the deal here? Also, if I do go with the oem version, is it worth it to go up from home premium to pro for the approx $30?
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Nov 10 2009, 04:46 PM
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 Forum Regular Group: Members Posts: 169 Joined: 24-May 09 Member No.: 335,244 |
The difference between OEM and Retail is that you can only ever install the OEM onto one computer (as defined as the motherboard). With retail, you can install Windows onto multiple, as long as only one at a time has it installed.
QUOTE(bilkyb @ Nov 10 2009, 02:33 PM) Also, if I do go with the oem version, is it worth it to go up from home premium to pro for the approx $30? No, it's not worth it. The only other version of Windows 7 you should possibly ever look at is Ultimate. This post has been edited by RainbowSix: Nov 10 2009, 04:47 PM --------------------  |
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Nov 10 2009, 04:53 PM
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Forum Addict Group: BC Advisor Posts: 2,150 Joined: 24-June 06 From: Pace University - New York City Campus Member No.: 73,266 |
...and even Ultimate is totally unnecessary for almost all home users, unless you want certain features only enterprises use. Here's a graph that breaks down what each edition has.
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