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My Windows XP SP3 Computer is infected with a Trojan that A-Squared is calling Trojan'Win32.TDSS!IK. I am having trouble using Internet Explorer and certain programs won't run including Malwarebytes. A-Squared cannot quarantine or delete the infections. AV is provided by Norton IS. I would appreciate your help please. Many Thanks Andy DDS.txt and Attach.txt included: DDS (Ver_09-05-14.01) - NTFSx86 Run by Compaq_Owner at 17:41:54.89 on 11/06/2009 Internet Explorer: 8.0.6001.18702 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition 5.1.2600.3.1252.44.1033.18.447.126 [GMT 1:00] AV: Norton Internet Security *On-access scanning enabled* (Updated) {E10A9785-9598-4754-B552-92431C1C35F8} FW: Norton Internet Security *enabled* {7C21A4C9-F61F-4AC4-B722-A6E19C16F220} ============== Running Processes =============== C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost -k DcomLaunch svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2evxx.exe C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe svchost.exe C:\Program Files\a-squared Free\a2service.exe C:\Program Files\Symantec\LiveUpdate\ALUSchedulerSvc.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\cisvc.exe C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\jqs.exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\LightScribe\LSSrvc.exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\PIF\{B8E1DD85-8582-4c61-B58F-2F227FCA9A08}\PIFSvc.exe C:\windows\system\hpsysdrv.exe C:\WINDOWS\RTHDCPL.EXE C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\browser\ybrwicon.exe C:\PROGRA~1\COMMON~1\AOL\AOLSPY~1\AOLSP Scheduler.exe C:\Program Files\BT Broadband Desktop Help\btbb\BTHelpNotifier.exe C:\HP\KBD\KBD.EXE C:\Program Files\Hp\HP Software Update\HPWuSchd2.exe C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\PIF\{B8E1DD85-8582-4c61-B58F-2F227FCA9A08}\PIFSvc.exe C:\Program Files\BT Broadband Desktop Help\btbb_wcm\McciTrayApp.exe C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\jusched.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbarNotifier\GoogleToolbarNotifier.exe C:\Program Files\BT Broadband Talk Softphone\BTAgile.exe C:\Program Files\Common Files\Motive\McciCMService.exe C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\browser\ycommon.exe C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\Norton Internet Security\Engine\16.5.0.135\ccSvcHst.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k imgsvc C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security\Norton Internet Security\Engine\16.5.0.135\ccSvcHst.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\cidaemon.exe C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\Iexplore.exe C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\Iexplore.exe C:\Program Files\Windows Live Toolbar\msn_sl.exe C:\Documents and Settings\Compaq_Owner\Desktop\dds.scr ============== Pseudo HJT Report =============== uStart Page = about:blank uSearchMigratedDefaultURL = hxxp://www.google.com/search?q={searchTerms}&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&ie=utf8&oe=utf8 mSearch Bar = hxxp://uk.red.clientapps.yahoo.com/customize/btyahoo/defaults/sb/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/info/bt_side.html uInternet Connection Wizard,ShellNext = iexplore uInternet Settings,ProxyOverride = 127.0.0.1 mSearchAssistant = hxxp://www.google.com/ie uURLSearchHooks: Yahoo! Toolbar: {ef99bd32-c1fb-11d2-892f-0090271d4f88} - c:\program files\yahoo!\companion\installs\cpn1\yt.dll BHO: Yahoo! Toolbar Helper: {02478d38-c3f9-4efb-9b51-7695eca05670} - c:\program files\yahoo!\companion\installs\cpn1\yt.dll BHO: Adobe PDF Link Helper: {18df081c-e8ad-4283-a596-fa578c2ebdc3} - c:\program files\common files\adobe\acrobat\activex\AcroIEHelperShim.dll BHO: Yahoo! IE Services Button: {5bab4b5b-68bc-4b02-94d6-2fc0de4a7897} - c:\progra~1\yahoo!\common\yiesrvc.dll BHO: Symantec NCO BHO: {602adb0e-4aff-4217-8aa1-95dac4dfa408} - c:\program files\norton internet security\norton internet security\engine\16.5.0.135\coIEPlg.dll BHO: Symantec Intrusion Prevention: {6d53ec84-6aae-4787-aeee-f4628f01010c} - c:\program files\norton internet security\norton internet security\engine\16.5.0.135\IPSBHO.DLL BHO: {7E853D72-626A-48EC-A868-BA8D5E23E045} - No File BHO: Windows Live Sign-in Helper: {9030d464-4c02-4abf-8ecc-5164760863c6} - c:\program files\common files\microsoft shared\windows live\WindowsLiveLogin.dll BHO: Google Toolbar Helper: {aa58ed58-01dd-4d91-8333-cf10577473f7} - c:\program files\google\google toolbar\GoogleToolbar.dll BHO: Google Toolbar Notifier BHO: {af69de43-7d58-4638-b6fa-ce66b5ad205d} - c:\program files\google\googletoolbarnotifier\5.1.1309.3572\swg.dll BHO: Windows Live Toolbar Helper: {bdbd1dad-c946-4a17-adc1-64b5b4ff55d0} - c:\program files\windows live toolbar\msntb.dll BHO: 1 (0x1) - No File BHO: Google Dictionary Compression sdch: {c84d72fe-e17d-4195-bb24-76c02e2e7c4e} - c:\program files\google\google toolbar\component\fastsearch_A8904FB862BD9564.dll BHO: Java™ Plug-In 2 SSV Helper: {dbc80044-a445-435b-bc74-9c25c1c588a9} - c:\program files\java\jre6\bin\jp2ssv.dll BHO: JQSIEStartDetectorImpl Class: {e7e6f031-17ce-4c07-bc86-eabfe594f69c} - c:\program files\java\jre6\lib\deploy\jqs\ie\jqs_plugin.dll BHO: SidebarAutoLaunch Class: {f2aa9440-6328-4933-b7c9-a6ccdf9cbf6d} - c:\program files\yahoo!\browser\YSidebarIEBHO.dll TB: Yahoo! Toolbar: {ef99bd32-c1fb-11d2-892f-0090271d4f88} - c:\program files\yahoo!\companion\installs\cpn1\yt.dll TB: Windows Live Toolbar: {bdad1dad-c946-4a17-adc1-64b5b4ff55d0} - c:\program files\windows live toolbar\msntb.dll TB: Norton Toolbar: {7febefe3-6b19-4349-98d2-ffb09d4b49ca} - c:\program files\norton internet security\norton internet security\engine\16.5.0.135\coIEPlg.dll TB: Google Toolbar: {2318c2b1-4965-11d4-9b18-009027a5cd4f} - c:\program files\google\google toolbar\GoogleToolbar.dll TB: {42CDD1BF-3FFB-4238-8AD1-7859DF00B1D6} - No File uRun: [ctfmon.exe] c:\windows\system32\ctfmon.exe uRun: [swg] c:\program files\google\googletoolbarnotifier\GoogleToolbarNotifier.exe uRun: [BTAgile] c:\program files\bt broadband talk softphone\BTAgile.exe uRun: [Google Update] "c:\documents and settings\compaq_owner\local settings\application data\google\update\GoogleUpdate.exe" /c mRun: [hpsysdrv] c:\windows\system\hpsysdrv.exe mRun: [RTHDCPL] RTHDCPL.EXE mRun: [Alcmtr] ALCMTR.EXE mRun: [Recguard] c:\windows\sminst\RECGUARD.EXE mRun: [PCDrProfiler] mRun: [TkBellExe] "c:\program files\common files\real\update_ob\realsched.exe" -osboot mRun: [YBrowser] c:\progra~1\yahoo!\browser\ybrwicon.exe mRun: [AOL Spyware Protection] "c:\progra~1\common~1\aol\aolspy~1\AOLSP Scheduler.exe" mRun: [btbb_McciTrayApp] "c:\program files\bt broadband desktop help\btbb\BTHelpNotifier.exe" mRun: [KBD] c:\hp\kbd\KBD.EXE mRun: [HP Software Update] c:\program files\hp\hp software update\HPWuSchd2.exe mRun: [QuickTime Task] "c:\program files\quicktime\qttask.exe" -atboottime mRun: [iTunesHelper] "c:\program files\itunes\iTunesHelper.exe" mRun: [Symantec PIF AlertEng] "c:\program files\common files\symantec shared\pif\{b8e1dd85-8582-4c61-b58f-2f227fca9a08}\pifsvc.exe" /a /m "c:\program files\common files\symantec shared\pif\{b8e1dd85-8582-4c61-b58f-2f227fca9a08}\AlertEng.dll" mRun: [btbb_wcm_McciTrayApp] "c:\program files\bt broadband desktop help\btbb_wcm\McciTrayApp.exe" mRun: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher] "c:\program files\adobe\reader 9.0\reader\Reader_sl.exe" mRun: [SunJavaUpdateSched] "c:\program files\java\jre6\bin\jusched.exe" IE: &Windows Live Search - c:\program files\windows live toolbar\msntb.dll/search.htm IE: Add to Windows &Live Favorites - http://favorites.live.com/quickadd.aspx IE: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - c:\progra~1\micros~3\office11\EXCEL.EXE/3000 IE: {C2A80015-C447-4dc4-82DD-AED83D6ED57E} - c:\program files\ladbrokesmpp\MPPoker.exe IE: {E2D4D26B-0180-43a4-B05F-462D6D54C789} - c:\windows\pchealth\helpctr\vendors\cn=hewlett-packard,l=cupertino,s=ca,c=us\iebutton\support.htm IE: {e2e2dd38-d088-4134-82b7-f2ba38496583} - %windir%\Network Diagnostic\xpnetdiag.exe IE: {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - c:\program files\messenger\msmsgs.exe IE: {219C3416-8CB2-491a-A3C7-D9FCDDC9D600} - {5F7B1267-94A9-47F5-98DB-E99415F33AEC} - c:\program files\windows live\writer\WriterBrowserExtension.dll IE: {5BAB4B5B-68BC-4B02-94D6-2FC0DE4A7897} - {5BAB4B5B-68BC-4B02-94D6-2FC0DE4A7897} - c:\progra~1\yahoo!\common\yiesrvc.dll IE: {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - {FF059E31-CC5A-4E2E-BF3B-96E929D65503} - c:\progra~1\micros~3\office11\REFIEBAR.DLL DPF: Microsoft XML Parser for Java - file://c:\windows\java\classes\xmldso.cab DPF: Web-Based Email Tools - hxxp://email.secureserver.net/Download.CAB DPF: {215B8138-A3CF-44C5-803F-8226143CFC0A} - hxxp://housecall65.trendmicro.com/housecall/applet/html/native/x86/win32/activex/hcImpl.cab DPF: {30528230-99f7-4bb4-88d8-fa1d4f56a2ab} - c:\program files\yahoo!\common\Yinsthelper.dll DPF: {5ED80217-570B-4DA9-BF44-BE107C0EC166} - hxxp://cdn.scan.onecare.live.com/resource/download/scanner/wlscbase6662.cab DPF: {6A344D34-5231-452A-8A57-D064AC9B7862} - hxxps://webdl.symantec.com/activex/symdlmgr.cab DPF: {8AD9C840-044E-11D1-B3E9-00805F499D93} - hxxp://java.sun.com/update/1.6.0/jinstall-1_6_0_13-windows-i586.cab DPF: {8FFBE65D-2C9C-4669-84BD-5829DC0B603C} - hxxp://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/polarbear/ultrashim.cab DPF: {CAFEEFAC-0015-0000-0005-ABCDEFFEDCBA} - hxxp://java.sun.com/update/1.5.0/jinstall-1_5_0_05-windows-i586.cab DPF: {CAFEEFAC-0016-0000-0003-ABCDEFFEDCBA} - hxxp://java.sun.com/update/1.6.0/jinstall-1_6_0_03-windows-i586.cab DPF: {CAFEEFAC-0016-0000-0005-ABCDEFFEDCBA} - hxxp://java.sun.com/update/1.6.0/jinstall-1_6_0_05-windows-i586.cab DPF: {CAFEEFAC-0016-0000-0007-ABCDEFFEDCBA} - hxxp://java.sun.com/update/1.6.0/jinstall-1_6_0_07-windows-i586.cab DPF: {CAFEEFAC-0016-0000-0013-ABCDEFFEDCBA} - hxxp://java.sun.com/update/1.6.0/jinstall-1_6_0_13-windows-i586.cab DPF: {CAFEEFAC-FFFF-FFFF-FFFF-ABCDEFFEDCBA} - hxxp://java.sun.com/update/1.6.0/jinstall-1_6_0_13-windows-i586.cab DPF: {D27CDB6E-AE6D-11CF-96B8-444553540000} - hxxp://fpdownload2.macromedia.com/get/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab Filter: x-sdch - {B1759355-3EEC-4C1E-B0F1-B719FE26E377} - c:\program files\google\google toolbar\component\fastsearch_A8904FB862BD9564.dll Handler: symres - {AA1061FE-6C41-421f-9344-69640C9732AB} - c:\program files\norton internet security\norton internet security\engine\16.5.0.135\CoIEPlg.dll Notify: AtiExtEvent - Ati2evxx.dll SSODL: WPDShServiceObj - {AAA288BA-9A4C-45B0-95D7-94D524869DB5} - c:\windows\system32\WPDShServiceObj.dll ================= FIREFOX =================== FF - ProfilePath - c:\docume~1\compaq~1\applic~1\mozilla\firefox\profiles\y7329fro.default\ FF - component: c:\documents and settings\all users\application data\norton\{0c55c096-0f1d-4f28-aaa2-85ef591126e7}\norton\coffplgn\components\coFFPlgn.dll FF - component: c:\documents and settings\all users\application data\norton\{0c55c096-0f1d-4f28-aaa2-85ef591126e7}\norton\ipsffplgn\components\IPSFFPl.dll FF - plugin: c:\documents and settings\compaq_owner\local settings\application data\google\update\1.2.145.5\npGoogleOneClick8.dll FF - plugin: c:\program files\google\google updater\2.4.1536.6592\npCIDetect13.dll FF - plugin: c:\program files\viewpoint\viewpoint experience technology\npViewpoint.dll ============= SERVICES / DRIVERS =============== R0 SymEFA;Symantec Extended File Attributes;c:\windows\system32\drivers\nis\1005000.087\SymEFA.sys [2009-3-21 310320] R1 BHDrvx86;Symantec Heuristics Driver;c:\windows\system32\drivers\nis\1005000.087\BHDrvx86.sys [2009-3-21 258608] R1 ccHP;Symantec Hash Provider;c:\windows\system32\drivers\nis\1005000.087\cchpx86.sys [2009-3-21 482352] R1 IDSxpx86;IDSxpx86;c:\documents and settings\all users\application data\norton\{0c55c096-0f1d-4f28-aaa2-85ef591126e7}\norton\definitions\ipsdefs\20090604.001\IDSXpx86.sys [2009-6-8 276344] R2 a2free;a-squared Free Service;c:\program files\a-squared free\a2service.exe [2009-6-11 718880] R2 Norton Internet Security;Norton Internet Security;c:\program files\norton internet security\norton internet security\engine\16.5.0.135\ccSvcHst.exe [2009-3-21 115560] R3 bkn50USB;Belkin 54Mbps Wireless USB Network Adapter;c:\windows\system32\drivers\rt2500usb.sys [2009-6-10 140416] R3 EraserUtilRebootDrv;EraserUtilRebootDrv;c:\program files\common files\symantec shared\eengine\EraserUtilRebootDrv.sys [2009-2-26 101936] S3 NAVENG;NAVENG;c:\documents and settings\all users\application data\norton\{0c55c096-0f1d-4f28-aaa2-85ef591126e7}\norton\definitions\virusdefs\20090610.056\NAVENG.SYS [2009-6-11 89104] S3 NAVEX15;NAVEX15;c:\documents and settings\all users\application data\norton\{0c55c096-0f1d-4f28-aaa2-85ef591126e7}\norton\definitions\virusdefs\20090610.056\NAVEX15.SYS [2009-6-11 876144] =============== Created Last 30 ================ 2009-06-11 16:55 11,254 a------- c:\windows\system32\locate.com 2009-06-11 14:52 <DIR> --d----- C:\!KillBox 2009-06-11 14:51 <DIR> --d----- C:\ISeeYouXP 2009-06-11 14:50 <DIR> --d----- c:\program files\ExplorerXP 2009-06-11 14:48 <DIR> --d----- c:\program files\a-squared Free 2009-06-11 14:47 <DIR> --d----- c:\program files\a-squared HiJackFree 2009-06-11 08:20 40,160 a------- c:\windows\system32\drivers\mbamswissarmy.sys 2009-06-11 08:20 19,096 a------- c:\windows\system32\drivers\mbam.sys 2009-06-11 08:20 <DIR> --d----- c:\program files\Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware 2009-06-11 08:20 <DIR> --d----- c:\docume~1\alluse~1\applic~1\Malwarebytes 2009-06-11 07:56 <DIR> --d----- c:\program files\Spybot - Search & Destroy 2009-06-11 07:56 <DIR> --d----- c:\docume~1\alluse~1\applic~1\Spybot - Search & Destroy 2009-06-10 21:49 138,384 a------- c:\windows\system32\drivers\tmcomm.sys 2009-06-10 20:50 140,416 a----r-- c:\windows\system32\drivers\rt2500usb.sys 2009-06-04 17:43 <DIR> --d----- c:\program files\Norton Support 2009-06-04 13:59 0 a------- c:\windows\system32\SBRC.dat 2009-06-04 13:59 0 a------- c:\windows\system32\SBFC.dat 2009-06-04 12:18 <DIR> --d----- c:\program files\common files\Uninstall 2009-06-02 14:51 <DIR> --d----- c:\docume~1\compaq~1\applic~1\System Tweaker 2009-05-29 11:39 1,324 a------- c:\windows\system32\d3d9caps.dat 2009-05-28 10:40 <DIR> --dsh--- c:\documents and settings\compaq_owner\IECompatCache 2009-05-22 20:01 <DIR> --dsh--- c:\documents and settings\compaq_owner\PrivacIE 2009-05-22 14:49 <DIR> --d----- c:\documents and settings\compaq_owner\ErrorLogs 2009-05-22 14:48 <DIR> --dsh--- c:\documents and settings\compaq_owner\IETldCache 2009-05-22 14:43 <DIR> --d----- c:\windows\ie8updates 2009-05-22 14:42 102,400 -------- c:\windows\system32\dllcache\iecompat.dll 2009-05-22 14:38 <DIR> -cd-h--- c:\windows\ie8 2009-05-22 12:33 <DIR> -cd-h--- c:\docume~1\alluse~1\applic~1\{A613CA96-150A-4A1D-90CE-67F81379DF8C} ==================== Find3M ==================== 2009-03-21 15:28 60,808 a------- c:\windows\system32\S32EVNT1.DLL 2009-03-21 15:06 989,696 -------- c:\windows\system32\dllcache\kernel32.dll 2006-06-01 23:20 770 a------- c:\docume~1\compaq~1\applic~1\wklnhst.dat 2002-04-16 12:27 5 a--sh--- c:\windows\system32\CdI5T.drv 1998-03-20 02:00 1,048 a--sh--- c:\windows\system32\flfnlf.sys 1998-03-20 02:00 1,048 a--sh--- c:\windows\system32\rlfnlf.sys 1998-03-20 02:00 1,048 a--sh--- c:\windows\system32\TMail3FL.SYS 1998-03-20 02:00 1,048 a--sh--- c:\windows\system32\TMailRL.sys 2008-10-07 03:13 32,768 a--sh--- c:\windows\system32\config\systemprofile\local settings\history\history.ie5\mshist012008100720081008\index.dat ============= FINISH: 17:46:01.23 ===============
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Hi
My name is Extremeboy (or EB for short), and I will be helping you with your log. We apologize for the delay in responding to your request for help. Here at Bleeping Computer we get overwhelmed at times, and we are trying our best to keep up. Please note that your topic was not intentionally overlooked. Our mission is to help everyone in need, but sometimes it takes just a little longer to get to every request for help. If you have since resolved the original problem you were having, we would appreciate you letting us know. If not please perform the following steps below so we can have a look at the current condition of your machine. If you have not done so, include a description of your problem, along with any steps you may have performed so far. If you do not make a reply in 5 days, we will need to close your topic. You may want to keep the link to this topic in your favourites. Alternatively, you can click the  button at the top bar of this topic and Track this Topic. The topics you are tracking can be found here.Please take note of some guidelines for this fix:
If you still require assistance post a new set of DDS Logs and a description of any remaining problems or symptoms you may still have please. If for any reason you did not post a DDS log please refer to this page and in step #6 there is instructions on downloading and running DDS. IF you have any problems just let me know in your next reply or simply post a Hijackthis log. Thanks again and we apologzie for the delay. With Regards, Extremeboy -------------------- If I'm helping you and I don't reply within 48 hours please feel free to send me a PM.
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Jun 22 2009, 04:57 PM
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Malware Disintegrator Group: HJT Team Posts: 8,334 Joined: 21-March 08 Member No.: 197,892 |
Hello.
Are you still there? If you are please follow the instructions in my previous post. If you still need help, follow the instructions I have given in my response. If you have since had your problem solved, we would appreciate you letting us know so we can close the topic. Please reply back telling us so. If you don't reply within 5-7 from the last day I replied initially, the topic will need to be closed. Thanks for understanding.  With Regards, Extremeboy -------------------- If I'm helping you and I don't reply within 48 hours please feel free to send me a PM.
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Jun 22 2009, 05:07 PM
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Hello Extremeboy,
My Thanks for your comments, and my apologies for the delay in replying ! I finally managed to get this one fixed for myself, so no further help required. Please leave the topic open for a few days and I will post details of what happened in case it helps others. Many Thanks Andy |
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Jun 22 2009, 08:23 PM
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Sure.
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Jun 25 2009, 04:49 PM
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Malware Disintegrator Group: HJT Team Posts: 8,334 Joined: 21-March 08 Member No.: 197,892 |
This topic is closed due to lack of feedback.
Glad you got it resolved and good luck in the future! Take care, Extremeboy -------------------- If I'm helping you and I don't reply within 48 hours please feel free to send me a PM.
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