Laptop Battery Falls Out, Now Vista Doesn't Boot Safe Mode Doesn't Work!
#1
Posted 17 March 2009 - 12:51 AM
Today, I was using my laptop, running on battery power only. Unfortunately, the battery no longer locks. I moved the laptop and the battery fell out. Naturally, as was not plugged in to an external power source, my laptop shut off.
Upon re-inserting the battery (and plugging in the laptop to an external power source for good measure), I received the "Windows Error Recovery" screen, presenting me with:
Safe Mode
Safe Mode with Networking
Safe Mode with Command Prompt
Start Windows Normally
I tried "Start Windows Normally", and after a loading screen (Microsoft Corporation at bottom), then the screen went black. I could see the mouse on screen, yet Vista would not boot up.
I manually shut down my computer and this time selected "Safe Mode": same thing, loading screen, then screen goes black with mouse, Vista does not load.
I then hit "F7" to get to the "Advanced Boot Options":
Repair your computer
Safe mode
Safe mode with networking
Safe mode with command prompt
Enable boot logging
Enable low resolution video (640 × 480)
Last Known Good Configuration (advanced)
Directory services restore mode
Debugging mode
Disable automatic restart on system failure
Disable Driver Signature Enforcement
Start Windows normally
I tried the options in bold and the same thing happened each time: loading screen, then screen goes black with mouse, Vista does not load.
The "Repair your computer" option got me to the "System Recovery Options" screen where I didn't know how to proceed...(so I simply restarted, never actually getting to the loading screen).
The only other possible thing was the fact that I had unchecked a few Nvidia options in "Startup" using "msconfig" (all of which were not necessary on startup). However, after doing this, I was able to restart the computer twice without any problems (before the battery fell out), so I'm pretty sure this isn't the problem.
I'm so lost!
#2
Posted 17 March 2009 - 06:58 AM
I'd suggest going back to the Repair your Computer screen and choose the Startup Repair option (figure 9 in this link: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/repair-windows-with-windows-startup-repair/ ) And let Startup Repair do it's thing.
If that's not successful, then go back in and choose System Restore. And restore your system back to a time before you made the MSCONFIG changes. FWIW - this is one of the reasons that we don't recommend the use of MSCONFIG for anything but troubleshooting. For permanent modification of startup entries I recommend this free program: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysintern...s/Autoruns.mspx
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#3
Posted 17 March 2009 - 04:22 PM
usasma, on Mar 17 2009, 04:58 AM, said:
I'd suggest going back to the Repair your Computer screen and choose the Startup Repair option (figure 9 in this link: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/repair-windows-with-windows-startup-repair/ ) And let Startup Repair do it's thing.
If that's not successful, then go back in and choose System Restore. And restore your system back to a time before you made the MSCONFIG changes. FWIW - this is one of the reasons that we don't recommend the use of MSCONFIG for anything but troubleshooting. For permanent modification of startup entries I recommend this free program: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysintern...s/Autoruns.mspx
Thanks so much for the tips! Couple concerns:
1) If indeed my messing with the "MSCONFIG" "Startup" menu is the cause of the black screen issue, why was I able to fully restart my computer twice? This only started happening from the first time I tired to start my computer after my battery fell out...?
2) Just curious: Will either "Startup Repair" or "System Restore" possibly make me lose data? I ask simply because I have a lot of files which I have not backed up -- and I don't want System Restore to take my computer back too far (assuming before I downloaded my pictures, music, etc.)
Thanks again usasma!
This post has been edited by technoob09: 17 March 2009 - 04:23 PM
#4
Posted 17 March 2009 - 07:22 PM
System Restore is the easiest place to start from, and it will occasionally fix issues like this.
2 - System Restore won't affect your personal files/data. But the concern here is "What if it is a hard drive issue?" - then your data is in danger of being lost. Not through the tests that we run, but by the hard drive dying and making recovery a very expensive proposition. If the hard drive is indeed dying, then there's a limited amount of time to recover it on your own.
So what we're doing here is trying to strike a balance between attempting to repair your computer but saving your data. These aren't usually a problem with software repairs - but if the hard drive is failing, each use of it decreases the chances of being able to recover your data easily. So, it's your call - save data or proceed with the repairs/tests.
**If you need a more detailed explanation, please ask for it. I have the Knack. **
#5
Posted 17 March 2009 - 08:50 PM
usasma, on Mar 17 2009, 05:22 PM, said:
System Restore is the easiest place to start from, and it will occasionally fix issues like this.
2 - System Restore won't affect your personal files/data. But the concern here is "What if it is a hard drive issue?" - then your data is in danger of being lost. Not through the tests that we run, but by the hard drive dying and making recovery a very expensive proposition. If the hard drive is indeed dying, then there's a limited amount of time to recover it on your own.
So what we're doing here is trying to strike a balance between attempting to repair your computer but saving your data. These aren't usually a problem with software repairs - but if the hard drive is failing, each use of it decreases the chances of being able to recover your data easily. So, it's your call - save data or proceed with the repairs/tests.
Thanks so much again, and I'm going to try these things when I get home.
QUICK QUESTION: Is it possible that the sudden loss of power corrupted either the operating system or the file system? BUT...If that indeed happened, would I have even been able to get as far as to the first boot screen??
This post has been edited by technoob09: 17 March 2009 - 08:50 PM
#6
Posted 17 March 2009 - 11:55 PM
1) I was told that Vista creates restore points automatically at regular intervals (around every 24 hours of use) as well as whenever updates are installed. So I was surprised that when I went to System Restore, I HAD NO RESTORE POINTS...!? So I got stuck there.
2) I then tried to acess "Startup Repair" by inserting the DVD that came with my laptop. However, mine is a "Recovery DVD" and did not have the option for "Startup Repair", only to recover the entire system. So I got stuck there as well.
3) I even tried checking out the "Repair your computer" option in the "Advanced Boot Options" menu [F7 to get Windows Boot Manager, then F8 to get "Advanced Boot Options"]. "Repair your computer" then brought me to "System Recovery Options", where it gave me the options:
-"To access recovery options log on as a local user."
-"To access the command prompt as well, log on using an administrator account."
4) For the heck of it, I even did the diagnostic that checks the hard drive for error (found under "Windows Boot Manager"), and when I came back to see what had happened, it had completed and restarted the computer.
I really don't want to lose my files...
#7
Posted 18 March 2009 - 03:23 PM
Running Startup Repair is the course of action to repair the files system (and startup items).
Try logging in as an Administrator to access all of the options.
**If you need a more detailed explanation, please ask for it. I have the Knack. **

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