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Kelvin in Oregon
post Dec 8 2008, 04:35 PM
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Farbar,

So, in the mean time, the download completed and I clicked on My Computer. It has been scanning for the last hour or so (it's 54% complete so far with no infections and no suspicious objects). All of this has been done with the Windows Security Alert window still up, prompting me to "Keep Blocking", "Unblock" or "Ask Me Later". How should I answer that prompt for now?

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post Dec 8 2008, 05:02 PM
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Yes, I am sending the reply from the computer that we've been working on.
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post Dec 8 2008, 06:43 PM
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The Kaspersky scan finished. Kaspersky's scan page said "you can continue browsing in a new Web browser window", so I did for the first 50% of the scan. The only web sites I referenced were this one and Dell's. As mentioned before, the Windows Security Alert asking if I wanted to keep blocking Internet Explorer came up about half way along. I never understood which button you wanted me to click on (Keep Blocking, Unblock or Ask Me Later), so I just left it as it was the whole time. It is still up, so let me know how you would like me to answer that question.

If any of the above information invalidated the scan, let me know and I will rerun it and not have any other browser activity going on.

The statistics showed that one infection was found. Here are the report results:
KASPERSKY ONLINE SCANNER 7 REPORT
Monday, December 8, 2008
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 (build 2600)
Kaspersky Online Scanner 7 version: 7.0.25.0
Program database last update: Monday, December 08, 2008 15:52:54
Records in database: 1444112


Scan settings
Scan using the following database extended
Scan archives yes
Scan mail databases yes

Scan area My Computer
A:\
C:\
D:\
E:\

Scan statistics
Files scanned 87468
Threat name 1
Infected objects 1
Suspicious objects 0
Duration of the scan 03:26:10

File name Threat name Threats count
C:\Program Files\RealVNC\vnc-4.0-x86_win32_viewer.exe Infected: not-a-virus:RemoteAdmin.Win32.WinVNC.4 1

The selected area was scanned.
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Good work Kelvin! thumbup2.gif

You may let Windows block some aspects of IE for the time being. I was afraid the alert was related to Kaspersky scan and asked you not to surfe and don't block anything at that time. Seems my direction was not clear.

Anyway, Kaspersky is showing no infection. That is good. It is flagging one file but it doesn't mean it is malware. That is an application (RealVNC) used to monitor or interact with a computer remotely. When you install and use the application yourself it is no problem. But if it is installed on the computer without your consent or when you don't use it you can uninstall it.


Before we clean the tools we have used, there are two problems to resolve, both are optional:

    Your log looks clean. But your computer is still very much susceptible in particular to hacking and intrusion from outside. I strongly advise you to install a firewall before surfing. The windows firewall is not good enough. The Windows firewall provides protection from outside threats as long as the malware is not on your system. When the malware gets to your computer Windows firewall is no more effective. You find more information on firewalls below.
    Click for more information on:Understanding and Using Firewalls

    There are several good free programs available like:
    Sunbelt-Kerio
    Comodo Firewall Pro
    Online Armor Free edition

    Note: If you decide to install Comodo, while installing uncheck the option related to Ask Toolbar.

  1. Your Java version is a risk factor. You should definitely uninstall Java. Not every computer needs Java to be installed. If you are using Java for any other application which needs Java independently, we have to try to install the latest version of Java. I have myself many applications on my computer but no independent Java. Let me know about this.


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Kelvin in Oregon
post Dec 10 2008, 12:07 AM
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Farbar,

Your instructions to not surf were clear, but by the time I got them the scan was half done, and I had been surfing because Kaspersky's site said I could. Sorry about that.

I installed RealVNC a while ago, to connect to my computer at work. I use Remote Desktop now, so I can go ahead an uninstall RealVNC. Should I do that now, or wait until we're done? Based on your earlier request, I have been holding off from making changes like that to my computer (e.g. Windows Updates, using AVG and AdAware to remove spyware, Updating Quicken, etc). I presume at some point you'll let me know when I can start making those updates again.

I've been reviewing firewalls, per your request. I found the bleedingcomputer article very informative. I'm having trouble translating the marketing hype at the different websites to figure out which of the features each of the free products each provides. If you have any specific recommendations on a firewall, that would be great. If not, I will continue to review them to try and pick the best one.

As far as Java goes, it seems like I've been prompted for Java updates in the past, so I'm guessing that some of my applications require it. If we can figure out how to get the latest Java installed, that would be my preference. I went to their website and searched for the error message I was getting, but didn't see anything that seemed to match my symptoms. I had hoped that the JRE 5 that I have now was better than the 1.3.1 that I had before, but from your posts, it sounds like it still has security holes.

I've noticed that my Start menu defaults have changed. I figured it would be better to wait until we were done before I change anything back. Should I start setting those back yet, or should I continue to wait?

One other thing to mention, as it seems we're starting to get close to the end. There are 3 separate accounts on my computer. We've done most everything so far from my personal account. It's seemed like most of the things we've worked on have been focusing on the computer as a whole. Is there anything specific we need to do with the other 2 accounts that would not have been handled with the tools we've used so far?

Let me know what we should do next (or whether we need to wait for my firewall choice). Thanks again for your help!!
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post Dec 10 2008, 06:13 AM
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I installed RealVNC a while ago, to connect to my computer at work. I use Remote Desktop now, so I can go ahead an uninstall RealVNC. Should I do that now, or wait until we're done? Based on your earlier request, I have been holding off from making changes like that to my computer (e.g. Windows Updates, using AVG and AdAware to remove spyware, Updating Quicken, etc). I presume at some point you'll let me know when I can start making those updates again.


You may uninstall RealVNC. Also use AVG and AdAware and let then remove what they find. They might find some file but specially some registry leftover. They might also find cookies, they should be removed but you shouldn't be alarmed by them. The tools like ATF cleaner and CCleaner remove all the cookies also.

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I've been reviewing firewalls, per your request. I found the bleedingcomputer article very informative. I'm having trouble translating the marketing hype at the different websites to figure out which of the features each of the free products each provides. If you have any specific recommendations on a firewall, that would be great. If not, I will continue to review them to try and pick the best one.


I don't have any recommendation and you don't need a complicated firewall. Any of those firewall will do.

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As far as Java goes, it seems like I've been prompted for Java updates in the past, so I'm guessing that some of my applications require it. If we can figure out how to get the latest Java installed, that would be my preference. I went to their website and searched for the error message I was getting, but didn't see anything that seemed to match my symptoms. I had hoped that the JRE 5 that I have now was better than the 1.3.1 that I had before, but from your posts, it sounds like it still has security holes.


Java update prompt doesn't necessarily means you need Java installed. You get the prompt when Java is installed and running at startup with windows even if you never use it. On some computer Java some other software are preinstalled. It doesn't mean you need them. I have all kinds of editors (documents, photos, music, etc.) and none of them need a stand alone Java. Specially for graphic work you need Java.

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I've noticed that my Start menu defaults have changed. I figured it would be better to wait until we were done before I change anything back. Should I start setting those back yet, or should I continue to wait?

Running some tools and programs restore the default setting because sometimes malware alters those settings. You may change the setting as you like.

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One other thing to mention, as it seems we're starting to get close to the end. There are 3 separate accounts on my computer. We've done most everything so far from my personal account. It's seemed like most of the things we've worked on have been focusing on the computer as a whole. Is there anything specific we need to do with the other 2 accounts that would not have been handled with the tools we've used so far?

The fixes covered mostly all accounts. We don't need to do anything else. However, if you noticed anything weird about the current or other accounts in the coming days, even after closing the topic you may send me a PM and I will reopen the the topic.

Let me know once more if you wanted to install Java. We don't have to wait for firwall to do that.

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post Dec 16 2008, 10:40 PM
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Farbar,

Sorry this has taken so long. I had to catch up on a few things.

RealVNC did not show up in Add/Remove Programs and I couldn't find an Uninstall application, so I removed it by removing the RealVNC directory under Program Files and removing the executable shortcuts.

I uninstalled JRE 5 Update 17. I haven't had any problems yet. If I do (e.g. in a few weeks), should I just post back to this topic, or is there some better way to contact you. You mentioned a PM in your prior post. What's that and how do I do it?

I fixed my Start menu and reset my Screen Saver.

I decided to install Sunbelt/Kerio as my firewall. The website talks about the free version, but the only download link is for a 30-day free trial of the full version. Do you know if that's the same thing? I submitted a question to their Support, so hopefully I'll have an answer tomorrow.

What do we need to do next?

Thanks again!



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I uninstalled JRE 5 Update 17. I haven't had any problems yet. If I do (e.g. in a few weeks), should I just post back to this topic, or is there some better way to contact you. You mentioned a PM in your prior post. What's that and how do I do it?


To send a PM click on farbar above my avatar and select Send Personal Message. From there it should be easy.

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I decided to install Sunbelt/Kerio as my firewall. The website talks about the free version, but the only download link is for a 30-day free trial of the full version. Do you know if that's the same thing? I submitted a question to their Support, so hopefully I'll have an answer tomorrow.



After 30-day trial it will revert back to the "free version" functionality and that is all you need.
  1. Go to start > run and copy and paste or type next command in the field then hit enter:

    ComboFix /u

    Note: There's a space between Combofix and /

    This will uninstall Combofix, delete its related folders and files, reset your clock settings, hide file extensions, hide the system/hidden files and resets System Restore again.

  2. Remove RSIT and its folder (C:\rsit). Also Remove SDFix and its folder (C:\SDFix)Delete also any tool or fix we have used from your desktop.

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post Dec 17 2008, 08:23 PM
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OK, I've got the Sunbelt Firewall installed. There wasn't any application-specific setup, so I presume it's going to block all the right things by default. Do I need to start it up, configure it, or do anything else?

I removed ComboFix, RSIT and pretty much everything else that had been added to my desktop. I noticed that I had a backups folder there that looks like it may have been created when I ran either HijackThis or RSIT. It has 2 backup files in it. Should I get rid of this as well? Should I also uninstall Malwarebytes' AntiMalware?

I loaded Windows Defender as part of the generic troubleshooting recommended by Bleepingcomputer. Should I leave that installed and running? Are there any special settings I should check? I read somewhere that you shouldn't have multiple AntiVirus tools running, and I wanted to make sure that this wouldn't conflict with my AVG AntiVirus Resident Shield.

I haven't installed XP SP3 yet (I've been waiting for my company to approve it). Does that put me at any additional risk? I am loading the rest of the Windows Updates regularly.

I have AVG AntiVirus running with a nightly scan scheduled. Once a week I go in and remove any Warnings (cookies) that AVG finds. I also run AdAware weekly. Besides my question above about Windows Defender, is there anything else I should be doing?

Thanks again for everything!

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OK, I've got the Sunbelt Firewall installed. There wasn't any application-specific setup, so I presume it's going to block all the right things by default. Do I need to start it up, configure it, or do anything else?


It is the check point on your computer to control the internet traffic. It is handy to play with the firewall and to read the user manual. You should know how to set it up according to your need. After the initial phase of getting to know how to use it and have configured what applications you are going to allow to connect to internet, you just leave it as it does its job without the need for a lot of attention.

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I removed ComboFix, RSIT and pretty much everything else that had been added to my desktop. I noticed that I had a backups folder there that looks like it may have been created when I ran either HijackThis or RSIT. It has 2 backup files in it. Should I get rid of this as well? Should I also uninstall Malwarebytes' AntiMalware?


They are Hijackthis backup folders. You may remove them.
You may keep Malwarebytes' AntiMalware. It puts no burden on the system. Update it from time to time and run it when you suspect something is going on. Along with AV it is good to have it.

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I loaded Windows Defender as part of the generic troubleshooting recommended by Bleepingcomputer. Should I leave that installed and running? Are there any special settings I should check? I read somewhere that you shouldn't have multiple AntiVirus tools running, and I wanted to make sure that this wouldn't conflict with my AVG AntiVirus Resident Shield.


IMO Windows Defender is not an effective malware fighter. Windows defender is no AntiVirus, it is anti-spyware. The rule of thumb:One AntiVirus with real-time protection, one firewall (other than Windows firewall) an one antispyware with real-time protection. Any additional anti-malware shouldn't be running. You might have two or three antispyware but they should not be running at the same time and should be set not to start with windows.

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I have AVG AntiVirus running with a nightly scan scheduled. Once a week I go in and remove any Warnings (cookies) that AVG finds. I also run AdAware weekly. Besides my question above about Windows Defender, is there anything else I should be doing?


Optional: Install Javacools© SpywareBlaster
SpywareBlaster will added a large list of programs and sites into your Internet Explorer and Firefox settings and that will protect you from running and downloading known malicious programs. What you need is updating it once in 2-3 weeks and enabling the restriction. You can find more information and a download link here.

And you are welcome.

Let me know when you have read this, then I close the topic.



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I have installed SpywareBlaster as well. Everything appears to be working correctly.

Thanks for everything!!! Please feel free to close this topic.
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Glad I could help.

This thread will now be closed.

If you need this topic reopened, please send me a PM and I will reopen it for you. Include the address of this thread in your request.

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