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Registry Cleaning

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Posted 08 March 2009 - 09:56 PM

If you test out in training on the registry, it is recommended to do it only on a test computer, one that you do not depend on!

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 01:45 AM

View Postpatbox, on Mar 8 2009, 06:06 PM, said:

I do not know about you, but I found cleaning up my registry is really helpful. Let alone, if you install WINAP (music application) and reinstall it immediately, you will be left with 500+ meaningless entries in your registry. Do it with 100 programs and you end up with 50 thousand meaningless entries in your registry. I do sometimes install 20 programs a day, to check it out... and registry cleaning helps.

You should use Revo Uninstaller. It scans for leftover registry items after you uninstall things. It works really well. :thumbsup: After reading this thread, I probably won't use Ccleaner unless I know exactly what's being deleted.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 06:55 AM

View PostKibou, on Mar 9 2009, 07:45 AM, said:

You should use Revo Uninstaller. It scans for leftover registry items after you uninstall things. It works really well. :thumbsup: After reading this thread, I probably won't use Ccleaner unless I know exactly what's being deleted.


I also use REVO Uninstall. Pretty powerful application. But I am afraid it could be too strong at times, removing stuff that it should not have removed.

What was the main complaint against CCLEANER? CCLEANER is recommended even by CNET. I doubt it could do any harm, unless your computer is already broken, then I could imagine CCLEANER could finish it. :-)
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 07:04 AM

One of the good things about CCleaner, from what I hear, is that it can clear TEMP files and Cookies, except BC also have an application that can do basically the same thing on that end called ATF Cleaner. After that, I'm not sure on all of the features of it. The registry cleaner part of it only somewhat passes off as an application to have on it because of how it makes a backup of your registry. It's still a bad thing to use a registry cleaner as it could still render a computer useless. It also doesn't matter if someone comes in with a computer problem because they used a registry cleaner. Part of it is because some people get lucky while others haven't even heard of it.
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Posted 10 March 2009 - 09:10 PM

I've been using CCleaner for a while myself, but the only difference i see with my entries in registry is the erasing of extensions that are not in use. I can understand erasing a string or folder for a program that has been uninstalled and for some weird reason it could not be reinstalled until removing that string. After reading this though, i think i will lay off on the registry "cleaning"

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Posted 10 March 2009 - 11:17 PM

View Postpatbox, on Mar 9 2009, 04:55 AM, said:

What was the main complaint against CCLEANER? CCLEANER is recommended even by CNET.

We do not have a complaint about CCleaner or any legitimate registry tool. The issue is that no two work the same way or choose the same entries when being operated. While the potential for disaster by using one is is an unacceptable risk Bleeping Computer is unwilling to make, by recommending registry tools. While there is very little to potentially zero reward for the risk taken. Especially since we cannot and will not judge the skill level of members. A registry cleaner in the hands of a novice is an invitation to an expensive door stop. As stated in the link tg1911 posted in the beginning:

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Hi Mark, do you really think that Registry junk left by uninstalled programs could severely slow down the computer? I would like to 'hear' your opinion.

His reply fairly captures my own view:
Quote:No, even if the registry was massively bloated there would be little impact on the performance of anything other than exhaustive searches.

On Win2K Terminal Server systems, however, there is a limit on the total amount of Registry data that can be loaded and so large profile hives can limit the number of users that can be logged on simultaneously.

I haven't and never will implement a Registry cleaner since it's of little practical use on anything other than Win2K terminal servers and developing one that's both safe and effective requires a huge amount of application-specific knowledge.

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Posted 11 March 2009 - 12:57 AM

This is true, I can confirm Animal's post here above!

I agree, what is removing old uninstall information or leftover uninstall files going to do for the performance of your Windows? What about removing Old Prefetch Data? Most of the items in Ccleaner are there to remove more serious, potential, performance issue, especially if old data is in high quota.

The only things I suggest to remove daily are the following:

  • Under Internet Explorer
    *temporary internet files *cookies *history (privacy if you need it) *Recently typed URLs
  • Under Windows Explorer
    *[ALL CHECKED]
  • Under System
    *Empty Recycle Bin *Temporary Files *Clipboard



Using Anything else is pointless to do everyday, however most options can be done once per month to once every two months!

For the Uninstall part, instead of using Registry tools to remove old data, just use the Complete Uninstaller located in the tools section of CCleaner. While you are at it, use the startup editor. You can deal with the tiny performance issues there!


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Posted 08 May 2009 - 06:36 PM

View PostVenek, on Jan 29 2009, 11:45 PM, said:

Wow, I had no idea that 'cleaning' the registry could be so fraught with potential problems. I had been using CCleaner's registry cleaner on a regular basis and never encountered a problem (thus far, anyway). I always thought that cleaning the registry was just clearing out lines of junk that are no longer on my computer, thereby speeding up performance, even if just a bit. It definitely cut down on boot-up times noticeably, though.

Did Microsoft themselves have any kind of official position/statement regarding registry maintenance?

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Posted 29 June 2010 - 05:57 AM

View PostDaChew, on Feb 12 2009, 07:18 AM, said:

My system partition can still be defragged in a few minutes at most


Lucky! Took me about 2 hours to defraggment the system partition.
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