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 Sep 14 2008, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(DaChew @ Sep 14 2008, 10:01 PM)  It should only see one hard drive, something is wrong maybe this will be solved when the RAID driver is installed when F6 is pushed? |
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Sep 14 2008, 04:46 PM
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NO, the raid bios does the striping, you have it set for JBOD if anything else sees 2 hard drives
-------------------- Chewy
life is like a box of chocolates and stupid is as stupid does but you can always run |
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Sep 14 2008, 05:52 PM
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I had it set on Stripe (RAID 0), tried it on JBOD, no change, still sees 2 HDDs.
Ok here are some pics so u can see everything i can see! Any ideas why i am seeing 2 Hdds as shown in 4.jpg? is this wrong as you suggest? I think i just need to install the driver when F6 is pushed and this may sort it? This post has been edited by danstar10: Sep 14 2008, 05:54 PM
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Sep 14 2008, 06:06 PM
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Visiting Alien Group: Members Posts: 4,959 Joined: 20-May 07 From: millenium falcon and rockytop Member No.: 131,963 |
Your stripe is hosed, delete it and recreate it
-------------------- Chewy
life is like a box of chocolates and stupid is as stupid does but you can always run |
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Sep 14 2008, 06:16 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 13-September 08 Member No.: 238,417 |
what do you mean by hosed?
I deleted and recreated it when i was changing to JBOD and back. |
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Sep 14 2008, 06:45 PM
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Visiting Alien Group: Members Posts: 4,959 Joined: 20-May 07 From: millenium falcon and rockytop Member No.: 131,963 |
turn off the raid and let windows CD look at each drive one at a time
This post has been edited by DaChew: Sep 14 2008, 06:45 PM -------------------- Chewy
life is like a box of chocolates and stupid is as stupid does but you can always run |
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Sep 15 2008, 05:31 AM
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How do i turn off RAID? is it just in the BIOS as in the 1st pic I uploaded and turn off:
SATA 1 primary RAID, SATA 1 secondary RAID, SATA 2 primary RAID, SATA 2 secondary RAID, What would this possibly achieve? sorry i am not a very experienced in this area so i need to ask quite a few questions. |
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Sep 15 2008, 06:32 AM
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Visiting Alien Group: Members Posts: 4,959 Joined: 20-May 07 From: millenium falcon and rockytop Member No.: 131,963 |
somewhere you have the cables mixed up or low level formatted the drives when in raid mode
the only way to staighten it out is start from scratch with one drive at a time, the file tables are messed up -------------------- Chewy
life is like a box of chocolates and stupid is as stupid does but you can always run |
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Sep 15 2008, 10:29 AM
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Forum Addict Group: Members Posts: 6,542 Joined: 3-September 05 From: Killeen, TX Member No.: 33,068 |
Chewy's right, of course
 .Take a look at those graphics you uploaded. A RAID-0 (when properly set up) reflects one drive totalling the space of two drives. Is that what your graphic reflects? No. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels Again...your motherboard manual should tell you how to use or not use...motherboard features. I guess that I don't understand why you insist on trying to use something that you don't understand...and which is functionally questionable (advantages of using a RAID versus the disadvantages). Louis This post has been edited by hamluis: Sep 15 2008, 10:30 AM |
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Sep 16 2008, 02:30 PM
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 4 Joined: 28-March 08 From: Temple, TX Member No.: 199,380 |
You definitely have problems within the stripe. Aside from that, there are so many negatives to running RAID 0, that I can't see where the positives would be worth the effort or risk. I typically don't recommend RAID 0 to anyone. If you have a catastrophic failure in one of those drives there is a good chance you will have no way of recovering your data if for some reason the failed drive cannot be repaired or the platters are scored. I'm not saying that it will happen, but you greatly increase your chances. If you absolutely want to run RAID, then I would say just mirror the drives. It's still not a recommended form of data protection, but your data will be a little more secure that way.
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Sep 17 2008, 05:54 AM
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Hi guys,
The reason im currently wanting to keep RAID 0 is that i have 2* 200GB HDDs and i am a computer animator meaning i use alot of HDD space with renders and various files so 200GB isnt really that much space where as 400 is a nice amount to span over menaing i dont need to render to different HDDs. Im going to give RAID one last try and if i cannot get it working i think i will resort to a non-RAID setup. Here is the latest: I manages to get the RAID drivers from the motherboard CD to a floppy and when this was inserted when F6 was pushed (in windows install startup) i loaded 2 drivers and then it finally did see the RAID array as one 400GB HDD. So i installed windows onto it - it copied the files accross and then it restarted and went into the setup where you name your computer and define time zones etc (i had not got to this point previously) - this completed as expected and then it restarted itself (without warning which i am unsure if it is meant to?) Now when it boots up it gets to the XP loading screen and freezes with a BSOD saying in short: disable any anti-virus disk defrag or backup utilities. Check HDD configuration and check for driver updates; run CHKDSK /F for hardware corruption. Techincal info: STOP (xxxxx...) interestingly CHKDSK /F doesnt seem to exist or XP home doesnt use it? DaChew - you were talking about having cables mixed up or messed up file tables. I did swap cables around to different SATA ports a while ago to accoodate a bigger graphics card (and it was working fine since), could this affect anything? and the reason i needed to reinstall windows could have had something to do with my file alocation tables (i was reading about peoples similar problems) - how can i check / reset these? This post has been edited by danstar10: Sep 17 2008, 05:57 AM |
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Sep 17 2008, 07:07 AM
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Visiting Alien Group: Members Posts: 4,959 Joined: 20-May 07 From: millenium falcon and rockytop Member No.: 131,963 |
QUOTE DaChew - you were talking about having cables mixed up or messed up file tables. I did swap cables around to different SATA ports a while ago to accoodate a bigger graphics card (and it was working fine since), could this affect anything? and the reason i needed to reinstall windows could have had something to do with my file alocation tables (i was reading about peoples similar problems) - how can i check / reset these? In your raid setup one drive is designated the boot drive, if that ever is changed all hell breaks loose, somehow that drive keeps track of the stripe. When I broke a raid stripe and tried to use the drives individually I couldn't To start all over you have to take each drive(one at a time) in non raid mode and delete the partitions(any and all) with the windows cd or zero fill, obviously just deleting the partitions is quicker After this is done just connect both drives, switch bios to raid mode and set up your stripe, and then create your partition, you should not need a raid driver at all, your bios being newer let's windows see your sata drives, xp supports hardware raid fine, it was sata drives that it has problems with, that was fixrd with newer bios and chipsets I have to admit I am extremely rusty with this and this is one of the reasons I gave up on raid over 3 years ago, I have fixed a few like yours since but refuse to put them back on raid. We had a state of the art asus mobo with raid stripe that wouldn't boot if a co-worker of mine left his external usb drive connected and powered up, when that happened the machine auto went with setup default after 30 seconds or gave a F1 or F2 option, F2 was setup default and turned off raid I suspected a helper(4 yr computer tech school man) of pressing F2, after that I threatened to pull his arms, we always kept our data backed up on a single drive just in case 
This post has been edited by DaChew: Sep 17 2008, 07:07 AM -------------------- Chewy
life is like a box of chocolates and stupid is as stupid does but you can always run |
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Sep 17 2008, 10:16 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 13-September 08 Member No.: 238,417 |
Ok il give that a go.
just to check, to turn off RAID it is just in the BIOS? as in the 1st pic I uploaded and turn off: SATA 1 primary RAID, SATA 1 secondary RAID, SATA 2 primary RAID, SATA 2 secondary RAID, and no other changes needed to disable RAID? then i disconnedt one HDD from the motherboard and im good to go in non RAID? This post has been edited by danstar10: Sep 17 2008, 10:19 AM |
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Sep 17 2008, 10:28 AM
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Visiting Alien Group: Members Posts: 4,959 Joined: 20-May 07 From: millenium falcon and rockytop Member No.: 131,963 |
that's another can of worms,
see what changing the ide/sata raid function to disabled does bios settings are a royal PIA -------------------- Chewy
life is like a box of chocolates and stupid is as stupid does but you can always run |
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Sep 17 2008, 10:42 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 32 Joined: 13-September 08 Member No.: 238,417 |
so what were you suggesting, not changing the BIOS atall and just removing one HDD cable?
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