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  Aug 10 2008, 08:46 PM
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Aug 11 2008, 12:52 PM
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Member Group: Banned Posts: 121 Joined: 18-April 07 Member No.: 125,427 |
This is a good thread that I will not turn into a blog, but to many of the super novices in cyber world it can be worthwhile. "operation bait" as this is now called, atleast on my end is well into its process. I have painted 5 possible scenarios as to why no real activity taken or MONEY or ID yet. 1. my name does not go too far (example 10 email accounts, 1 have my real name) 2. the baiteeeee likes to sleep a lot, 3. he realized there is not a reward and is moving or moved on. 4. he is timely waiting still upon pounce mode, 5. he knows with what I presented as BAIT is too much to tackle because of security OUTSIDE of my computer on the money that he knows about.
Anyhow point of this reply was to not freak out because you get something or someone penetrates the system... crackers and ppl who love to flaunt are mostly out there... hackers and malicious attacks that take identity or may pose a threat to your personal data rarely happens... its only higher than ever because kids nowadays are online from age 18 months and taught how to write progamming at high levels by the time they are 14. Its the world we live in. Everything on here (internet) is a threat, but rarely will someone go through with what they could. They may flex muscle or show activity, but in the end it usually ends up being harmless. TRUTH!!! "operation bait" will now go underground as I can and will not turn this into a blog, but weill continue to update should any further developments occur, most likely in a few short days you will get a reply from me saying "he did nothing" |
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Aug 11 2008, 01:03 PM
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 Bleepin Elf  Group: HJT Team Coach Posts: 821 Joined: 11-November 04 From: Missouri, USA Member No.: 4,912 |
ok, I just have to reply here.
Your words are so vague that I don't really understand what all happened precisely. I'm gonna try to bear with you on this, but you'll need to bear with me too. Based on what you said: QUOTE working off this computer which is only used for lets say for lack of words... have you ever downloaded a song without paying? Anyhow, I forgot that I had not gotten rid of all things to my external or out of this system as I continued to run "songs" that we all download for free in a high risk/reward way and got caught. Knew it right away, but was too late. I seen the leak and was penetrated. You were downloading illegal content and running it? And you were surprised you got infected? What infection did you have? Most infections are not individual hackers. They are not in it for your data in general, they couldn't care less about you or your machine. They are in it to get username/passwords, whatever info they can get from you, and to do damage. If a backdoor component was installed, you may have given control of the machine to someone else and the computer could have been used to spam, or to perform DDoS attacks. That's what it amounts to. As far as adware goes (the kind that brings pop ups and redirects you to dubious sites), the purpose is to make money off of you. By getting your computer to load their ads (popups) they get paid. For each browser page being redirected to their site, they get paid. It's all about money. It is extremely rare that it be personal. Unless you know your way around packet sniffers and have a testing environment and generally know what you're doing, I suggest you get your machine cleaned up and just work on staying safe. If not for you, then for everyone else's sake on the net. We sure don't need volunteer spammers/DDoSers, there's enough zombie bots out there already. No need to add to the pool if you can avoid it. -------------------- I amar prestar aen. Han mathon ne nen. Han mathon ne chae. A han noston ne 'wilith. - Galadriel
'The world is changed; I can feel it in the water, I can feel it in the earth, I can smell it in the air.' |
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Aug 11 2008, 01:37 PM
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Member Group: Banned Posts: 121 Joined: 18-April 07 Member No.: 125,427 |
yes a backdoor (obviously) component was tossed in, but that is NOT the point. The point is to like you said "get passwords etc etc from my machine"... they did not get none of that, and I released the beast to them again only this time have the "i call your bluff" button pushed to the person who loaded this in my machine first place. There is only so far you can go and so much you can do when sent in circles or messing with money off sites that are more secure than the whitehouse itself. I welcome them to the money, take it... they wont. If they have a brain far too risky. most they can have are useless passwords of all that been changed and set themself/selves up to get insta-called if they do make a move. Instant you lose I win if they take "operation bait" to the next level, but that will not happen. Ultimately I believe the computer was backdoor taken and they got really nowhere with anything. I had no major attacks or popups and still dont. What they want and got was a bunch of circles, and nothing if a real HACKER wanted it. The less your name is involved nowadays the harder it is to do with information and/passwords. If people get a kick out of reading email that is from a non existent person that means nothing and is under another families name, and has nothing to do with you have fun is all I can say to them. People get their rocks off by a lot of things nowadays. I also allowed ZERO time for them really to operate anyhow so that can be another factor highly playing a role in this scenario.
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Aug 11 2008, 01:48 PM
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Bleepin Elf Group: HJT Team Coach Posts: 821 Joined: 11-November 04 From: Missouri, USA Member No.: 4,912 |
Doing what you're doing won't amount to much. In my opinion, it's not only useless but also extremely careless. Considering you didn't answer my questions, I'm going to assume that you don't have the knowledge to really answer them.
So, in short, please, do everyone a favor and keep your machine free of P2P apps, and make sure you are safe and protected. -------------------- I amar prestar aen. Han mathon ne nen. Han mathon ne chae. A han noston ne 'wilith. - Galadriel
'The world is changed; I can feel it in the water, I can feel it in the earth, I can smell it in the air.' |
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Aug 11 2008, 01:58 PM
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 Bleepin' Animin Group: Site Admin Posts: 5,777 Joined: 18-August 05 From: Now On... Member No.: 31,547 |
Retaliating to an illegal act with an illegal act is a clear violation of the rules of this forum. Please follow Galadriel's advice.
This thread is closed. -------------------- The Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for some people it is a complete substitute for life. Andrew Brown  "On the keyboard of life, always keep one finger on the escape key." — Scott Adams. |
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