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 Apr 23 2008, 07:02 AM
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Seriously, I'm not going to break and buy Vista. The day I buy vista is the day scene kids will start wearing ccc clothing... *trails off*.. 
-------------------- "People die of disease and accident. Death comes suddenly and there is no notion of good or bad. It leaves, not a dramatic feeling but great emptiness. When you lose someone you loved very much you feel this big empty space and think, 'If I had known this was coming I would have done things differently.' These are the feelings I wanted to arouse in the players with Aerith's death relatively early in the game. Feelings of reality and not Hollywood." - Yoshinori Kitase |
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Apr 23 2008, 07:17 AM
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Well I mean, having Vista on your machine isn't really the end of the world I mean, con it could be worse. Atleast they are providing updates until 2009 and from there they are still going to give Security Updates until 2014! They are doing that for us but I just can't get why they can't keep XP for atleast another year so that people can feel more confident going into Vista
 I mean if they waited one more year they can sort some more of the bugs out form Vista and after a year I am sure more people will be more confident shifting to it.
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Apr 23 2008, 07:19 AM
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 Bleepin' Malware Exterminator Group: HJT Junior Classmen Posts: 1,381 Joined: 4-July 07 From: Sydney, Australia. Member No.: 141,514 |
I'm backing up my XP installation disk as we speak
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Apr 23 2008, 07:20 AM
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Forum Member Group: Banned Posts: 1,614 Joined: 20-September 07 Member No.: 157,913 |
Wise idea
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Apr 23 2008, 07:29 AM
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Distinguished Member Group: Members Posts: 800 Joined: 25-October 07 From: Sydney, NSW Member No.: 165,216 |
I need an Xp installation disk >.>
-------------------- "People die of disease and accident. Death comes suddenly and there is no notion of good or bad. It leaves, not a dramatic feeling but great emptiness. When you lose someone you loved very much you feel this big empty space and think, 'If I had known this was coming I would have done things differently.' These are the feelings I wanted to arouse in the players with Aerith's death relatively early in the game. Feelings of reality and not Hollywood." - Yoshinori Kitase |
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Apr 23 2008, 08:15 AM
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QUOTE(david28 @ Apr 23 2008, 09:47 PM)  Platypus, it is the fact that people who are going to build new systems and who are planning on buying a new computer in around 2 months + is where the problem occurs (Actually already starting for me now). Those people won't have a choice but to go with Windows Vista due to the fact that XP has been permanently stopped from being sold and being put on new machines...that is what we are talking about  ?? I know what you're talking about, some other folk show signs of not being so clear on the issues, and need some factual information. Direct OEM and Retail License Availability end date: June 30 2008 As of April 2008, Microsoft is extending availability of Windows XP Home Edition for OEMs to install on Ultra Low-Cost PCs. The new OEM end date will be the later of either June 30, 2010, or one year after the general availability of the next version of Windows. System Builder License Availability end date: Jan 31 2009 http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/default.mspx If people must purchase a system with Vista pre-installed, OEM Vista Business and Ultimate versions include downgrade rights to enable users to revert to running Windows XP Professional or Tablet PC edition. http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/f...erencesheet.pdf Platypus Microsoft MVP (Shell / User) -------------------- Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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Apr 23 2008, 05:42 PM
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So when you mean they extend the date to install Windows XP Home Edition on Ultra Low Cost PC's, that means computer stores selling PC's that are second hand and under the price of let's say $500 are still allowed to put XP on them until that date? Also, when you say System Builder Licence, is that for people that are building computers at their computer store and that licence allows them to put XP on their meaning people who want to buy an XP built computer can do so once the June 30th deadline is past?
Sorry if this is confusing but I myself am confused  David |
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Apr 23 2008, 10:43 PM
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 Senior Member Group: HJT Junior Classmen Posts: 464 Joined: 23-November 07 From: California Member No.: 171,969 |
Platypus, for computer handicapped people (cough cough, parents >_>) they won't know the full impact of retiring Vista.
....I doubt both my parents even know the different between Windows 3.1/95/98/2000/ME/XP/Vista. And another thing... some of us just can't afford or aren't allowed to buy the installations. Which is why this is a big issue for me. QUOTE(Amazing Andrew @ Apr 22 2008, 11:32 PM) QUOTE(skyfuser @ Apr 22 2008, 08:35 PM) I "third" that. Ubuntu seems like a very good choice. I must learn the whole compiling thing though I have no idea where to start on that ohmy.gif Modules mean nonsense to me >_< NO need to compile, that's what Distributions are for: so you don't HAVE to compile anything as it's already compiled and tested and wrapped up with a bow.And is it true that ubuntu is stuff you find on your show? o.O Of course, you can compile if you want to; it makes you feel like an Uber-Hacker! Yep, I know that distributions are already compiled I was referring to those USB ones, for extra applications you need to compile. Something I have absolutely no idea about
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Apr 24 2008, 02:31 AM
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Somebody should buy 1,000 windows XP licenses, and then in like 2010 sell them lol
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Apr 24 2008, 03:26 AM
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QUOTE Somebody should buy 1,000 windows XP licenses, and then in like 2010 sell them lol No I wouldn't do that I would buy 2,000! Even if you sold them in 2010, don't forget that Microsoft would still be releasing the security updates and you would have to download a heck of a lot of updates Does anyone know if there is a legit site that is ordering many many legit copies of XP and selling them after the deadline but not making any profit? Or is it illegal to sell XP like that after the deadline? |
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 Apr 24 2008, 08:21 AM
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QUOTE(david28 @ Apr 24 2008, 06:26 PM) QUOTE Somebody should buy 1,000 windows XP licenses, and then in like 2010 sell them lol No I wouldn't do that I would buy 2,000! Even if you sold them in 2010, don't forget that Microsoft would still be releasing the security updates and you would have to download a heck of a lot of updates Does anyone know if there is a legit site that is ordering many many legit copies of XP and selling them after the deadline but not making any profit? Or is it illegal to sell XP like that after the deadline? I don't know of any sites but I'm pretty sure its not illegal. I did find something though on Amazon.com The Ask Leo Store he sells copies of XP on Amazon pretty cheap. It doesn't look like hes making any profit on it either Have a look David and/or anyone else, and tell me what you think Edit: Its XP home dition by the way, and comes with SP2. This post has been edited by Teenage.Zombiee: Apr 24 2008, 08:22 AM -------------------- "People die of disease and accident. Death comes suddenly and there is no notion of good or bad. It leaves, not a dramatic feeling but great emptiness. When you lose someone you loved very much you feel this big empty space and think, 'If I had known this was coming I would have done things differently.' These are the feelings I wanted to arouse in the players with Aerith's death relatively early in the game. Feelings of reality and not Hollywood." - Yoshinori Kitase |
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Apr 24 2008, 11:24 AM
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I am new and just joined and agree that is is a baaaaad decision by Microsoft but....back in the early 90's when they came out with Windows NT - they never planned to have a Windows 95 - they were only going to have a Windows NT server and a Windows NT Workstation which would not be DOS based - they never planned to continue with a DOS based platform at all but the users - mostly the gamers got together and raised such a stink that Windows 95 became a quick add on to the table - and it continued to be a platform until Windows 2000 which had a DOS box option - my point is that if you are as mad as hell about this this then speak up and out wherever you can - that petition thing I saw back in another entry and any type of of group or blog or petitiion people can find to sign will help - make noise - threaten to move to other OS - can only help - IMHO
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Apr 24 2008, 11:47 AM
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Platy?
QUOTE If people must purchase a system with Vista pre-installed, OEM Vista Business and Ultimate versions include downgrade rights to enable users to revert to running Windows XP Professional or Tablet PC edition. http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/f...erencesheet.pdf Platypus Microsoft MVP (Shell / User) http://www.informationweek.com/news/window...cleID=207401829 according to this dell is doing an end around thru some loophole http://www.dell.com/content/products/categ...s=bsd&cs=04 and these will be available until 2010 with xp? -------------------- Chewy
life is like a box of chocolates and stupid is as stupid does but you can always run |
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Apr 24 2008, 01:04 PM
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 Bleepin' Night Watchman Group: BC Advisor Posts: 1,762 Joined: 5-December 05 From: The City of Saint Francis, by the western sea Member No.: 43,307 |
As I understand it, it's not illegal to sell XP after the end date (despite what MS would like people to think) but rather it's against the license that retails have to sign.
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Apr 24 2008, 01:25 PM
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Visiting Alien Group: Members Posts: 4,889 Joined: 20-May 07 From: millenium falcon and rockytop Member No.: 131,963 |
here's a quiz
what company has been sued in more states and countries than any other? -------------------- Chewy
life is like a box of chocolates and stupid is as stupid does but you can always run |
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