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 Apr 28 2008, 01:37 AM
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Apr 30 2008, 04:52 AM
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 Visiting Alien  Group: Members Posts: 4,897 Joined: 20-May 07 From: millenium falcon and rockytop Member No.: 131,963 |
a side note,
even tho sp3 wasn't going to be released to the devlopers network, it was even tho the admin install was pulled from the open web page at windows update, the download links are still active I conservatively estimate 300,000-500,000 downloads so far, based on majorgeeks reporting 200,000 so far Interest in XP is far from dead it would seem 
-------------------- Chewy
life is like a box of chocolates and stupid is as stupid does but you can always run |
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Apr 30 2008, 02:11 PM
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 Senior Member Group: HJT Junior Classmen Posts: 464 Joined: 23-November 07 From: California Member No.: 171,969 |
Of course. I personally have no idea where Ballmer (that's his name, right...?) bases his idea that the home user and large corporation companies don't want it.
Is it out of beta though? I am worried for my life that it'll make me order reinstallation discs 
-------------------- "If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way." - Bertrand Russell
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Apr 30 2008, 11:22 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 28 Joined: 22-February 08 Member No.: 191,900 |
Im glad to see xp go.
i had vista for 6 months and had ZERO!! problems with it. its fast and i love it. I think most of you just need to get over that xp wont be around forever. Vista may have probs but they can be worked out. I remember xp having alot of problems when it first came out just give it some time |
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Apr 30 2008, 11:25 PM
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Senior Member Group: HJT Junior Classmen Posts: 464 Joined: 23-November 07 From: California Member No.: 171,969 |
Well, if Vista sucks to the point Ballmer declares it an official "work in progress" there's something to infer about that. Also, if Vista caused sales to plummet a few times more than XP, that definitely suggests something.
While I don't disagree that Vista issues can work out, I don't like the new features. Running as administrator for every little thing and a UAC that's just a pain to disable... sigh. -------------------- "If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way." - Bertrand Russell
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May 7 2008, 02:41 PM
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 7 Joined: 6-May 08 From: Lawton, OK Member No.: 207,343 |
Just to input my two bits, If Microsoft cares so little about their customers as to force-feed a obviuosly inferior product on them, why should we as consumers continue to line their pockets with our gold? The customer rules, and if they are refusing to sell and support the product we prefer, then in my eyes they have forfeited any right of protection under the law. I am sure the courts will disagree, but if enough people refuse to buy Vista regardless, the giant will eventually have to do something (either go broke or change his attitude)
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May 7 2008, 07:49 PM
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Senior Member Group: HJT Junior Classmen Posts: 464 Joined: 23-November 07 From: California Member No.: 171,969 |
Because we're not used to Macs, and besides Linux is kinda hard to understand.
Besides, Windows is the most dominant OS, so almost everything is compatible with Windows. Not Vista though.
-------------------- "If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way." - Bertrand Russell
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May 7 2008, 09:16 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: 31-March 08 Member No.: 200,104 |
My Husband bought computer with Vista preinstalled a couple of months ago. He wanted XP, but the vendor was allowed to offer only Vista, and told that it is not hard to get accustomed to a Vista machine. It is not hard, if you want it to be a toy.
 Here are his impressions (I never touch this thing, don`t like it): 1. Hardware - Vista requires a lot of resources. It doesn`t work smoothly with 4 GB RAM installed. 2. Looks - pretty, if you go for it. He doesn`t. I`m the proof.  3. OS stability - it is harder to mess with system settings.  Finally: he doesn`t like Vista. If he wants to do some serious work, he sneeks to my 6 yrs old, 256 MB RAM, XP3 laptop. It is just more comfortable. I talked to some friends in IT industry. Generally, they agree: - MS has invested some big money in Vista, and has limited time to return it, because they will soon (next year ?) release Windows 7. They need to dump XP, and what Ballmer is talking can be called "damage control". They hope we will gradually accept Vista. - XP is designed to work on any HW configuration, and leave as much as possible resources to applications. Vista is designed to provides for itself first, and what`s left can be used by other applications. - Second reason Vista requires so much resources is the idea to be frequently in touch with Microsoft and report about users habits and preferences (yup! sounds like spyware).  - Companies and US Government still use XP. To switch on Vista, they must invest in new HW, because what they currently have cannot support Vista. Some companies have hundreds, or thousands XP machines, so do some calculations.  - Environment - how can we safely dispose so many good, yet obsolete computers in next two years? - Besides HW, here`s also a SW problem. Business applications are often created for specific type of work, or even for a single (medium or big) company. Costs for SW upgrades will be at least 10 times bigger than expenditures on HW.  - Here should be added costs for extra work hours, staff education, time for transition on new HW/SW, time to establish information reliability (they will probably work parallel on both systems), etc, etc.  It will be interesting to watch Microsoft getting out of the hole they dig for themselves.  Crazy idea: Apple bought Microsoft and forgot to tell us about it?  Reason for editing: broken language I call "english". This post has been edited by Istra: May 7 2008, 09:23 PM -------------------- Sometimes I think I understand everything... then I regain consciousness.
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May 7 2008, 09:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: HJT Junior Classmen Posts: 464 Joined: 23-November 07 From: California Member No.: 171,969 |
Yep. I couldn't believe how hard it was to use Vista on my friend's computers. And they use NORTON O.O Lag ftl >:(
QUOTE Crazy idea: Apple bought Microsoft and forgot to tell us about it? I'm all for it. I would donate for the cause  Better yet, Linux bought Microsoft. Then told Bill Gates "Boo. Source codes own you now." -------------------- "If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way." - Bertrand Russell
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May 10 2008, 03:39 AM
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Forum Member Group: Banned Posts: 1,614 Joined: 20-September 07 Member No.: 157,913 |
Hmmm...
It seems the petition has now gathered over 200,000 signatures and Microsoft still won't listen  I think this isn't going to be saved. |
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 May 10 2008, 05:55 AM
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a forum member Group: Members Posts: 1,795 Joined: 27-August 07 Member No.: 153,171 |
'thread watching' with interest; my XP is 'in need of attention'
 BUT maybe not worth the effort?? do we know when support for and microsoft updates FOR XP from their site will end? |
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May 10 2008, 06:49 AM
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 Senior Member Group: BC Advisor Posts: 546 Joined: 28-January 06 From: Australia Member No.: 52,817 |
QUOTE(ruby1 @ May 10 2008, 08:55 PM)  ? do we know when support for and microsoft updates FOR XP from their site will end? Yes we do: http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/sea...Filter=FilterNO Mainstream support continues until 14th April 2009. For the duration of mainstream support updates will include security hotfixes and may include updates to address non-security issues of functionality. Extended support continues until 8th April 2014. During extended support phase, MS provides security hotfixes but doesn't provide non security related software updates. -------------------- Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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May 10 2008, 03:39 PM
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 Bleepin' Night Watchman Group: BC Advisor Posts: 1,762 Joined: 5-December 05 From: The City of Saint Francis, by the western sea Member No.: 43,307 |
*ahem*
Linux. nuff said
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May 10 2008, 11:50 PM
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Forum Member Group: Banned Posts: 1,614 Joined: 20-September 07 Member No.: 157,913 |
I'm not complaining
 If I can atleast still get updates till that time! And, by the time the updates stop I am sure Vista will be more worthy of installing
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May 11 2008, 12:15 AM
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Senior Member Group: HJT Junior Classmen Posts: 464 Joined: 23-November 07 From: California Member No.: 171,969 |
Whut O.O The evil Ubuntu CD won't install because my VAIO Sony is 256MB RAM...
Looks like it will continue to be slow One thing I wish Vista would have would be none of that Run as Administration and UAC trouble. Simply reminds me of an overprotective mother T_T And where in the Land of Nod is Ballmer in now? >:( -------------------- "If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way." - Bertrand Russell
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