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> Is It Illegal To Download Tv Programs Via Bittorrent?
pcmaddeanp
post Mar 31 2008, 12:36 PM
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Hi,

I was just wondering if downloading TV Programs by BitTorrent was illegal or not.
Please could you answer this question?

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post Mar 31 2008, 01:34 PM
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almost all shows are copyrighted and hence protected, however there are still a few countries that consider anything put on the air waves to be fair game for capture and sharing

premium content that not put on the airwaves would not be fairgame

don't worry the US is slowly beating those countries into line/submission, for some reason Canada and the scandanavian countries are being uncooperative

well there's always the marines

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post Mar 31 2008, 01:42 PM
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99.627% of the time, such downloads are illegal in the US of A. There are legal bittorrent TV show downloads available like from the official bittorrent site: http://www.bittorrent.com/tv-shows


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I'm going to assume that you are referring to a US television show. As I do not have any information about copyright laws as they pertain to other nations. Since this forum is based in the US we follow US copyright law. I found this well written section on another website. To preclude reinventing the wheel, and not saying it nearly as well I'll post it and link back to it, to avoid copyright infringement. whistling.gif

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One key copyright legal decision significantly shifted the future of American media. In the mid-1980s, the Supreme Court ruled that a viewer using a VCR to copy and “time-shift” a television broadcast for their personal use fell under fair use provisions and thus was not an infringement of copyright. This decision, widely known as the Betamax case, led to the growth of the VCR technology and a broad array of video copying and recording possibilities to be discussed in Chapter 6. Not all copying practices are protected by the Betamax case, as online file-sharing and tape-trading do not constitute personal fair use, but the case allowed technology companies to create and sell devices enabling both infringing and non-infringing uses. Today, recording broadcasts, time-shifting, and use of recorded material within classrooms or for critical commentaries are all fair uses that are exercised regularly across America, even though the television industry was tried to push for policies to restrict such uses.


So the short story is, No it is not legal.

Link to the entire article on Copyright and Television, by Jason Mittell: click here


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Even in the UK as that's where I live?


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I'd say it's illegal in the UK reading this: http://copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/uk_law_summary

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And don't forget when you download P2P, chances are pretty good you're downloading nasties as well. So even if it's free, you may end up paying in the long run.
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post Mar 31 2008, 07:48 PM
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(DaChew; many thanks for prompting me to take a closer look at the link I provided thumbup2.gif )

I came across a link to elsewhere which ( after consideration ) I have now removed but from it one is reminded that to download and distribute copyrighted material is illegal, so you proceed at your own risk


maybe a good maxim is

if in doubt ,DONT clapping.gif

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post Mar 31 2008, 08:18 PM
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ruby,
I would edit that post, your link promotes illegal downloads if I read it right

what's really bad here in the USA is how they are doublecharging you for a show, you pay first time just to see it and maybe keep a copy for a little while but cannot back it up to dvd

then later if you liked the season you get to pay for it again, and if that's gets damaged, buy yet another copy

it's all about maximizing profits

and they wonder why people don't have more ethics with their pirating?



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post Mar 31 2008, 08:46 PM
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In the UK, BBC have started something they're calling iPlayer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/channels/iplayer.shtml, which might be an alternative to piracy!

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Aside from the legal perspective, there's the value question. I mean, when was the last time you saw a TV show that was actually worth watching? I've always envied you folks in the UK because every BBC program I've ever seen (which consist mainly of Monty Python, Black Adder, Fawlty Towers, etc.) blows away anything the American networks have come up with. Of course, I'd hate to have to buy a TV license like you Brits have to.


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QUOTE(Juha @ Apr 1 2008, 02:46 AM) *
In the UK, BBC have started something they're calling iPlayer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/channels/iplayer.shtml, which might be an alternative to piracy!

and you can get all ch 4 programs a for a week after on 4od after that they are really cheap to buy
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