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Mar 31 2008, 12:36 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 137 Joined: 30-March 08 From: Southampton, UK Member No.: 199,842 |
I was just wondering if downloading TV Programs by BitTorrent was illegal or not. Please could you answer this question? Thanks pcmaddeanp -------------------- |
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Mar 31 2008, 01:34 PM
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![]() Visiting Alien ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,987 Joined: 20-May 07 From: millenium falcon and rockytop Member No.: 131,963 |
almost all shows are copyrighted and hence protected, however there are still a few countries that consider anything put on the air waves to be fair game for capture and sharing
premium content that not put on the airwaves would not be fairgame don't worry the US is slowly beating those countries into line/submission, for some reason Canada and the scandanavian countries are being uncooperative well there's always the marines This post has been edited by DaChew: Mar 31 2008, 01:35 PM -------------------- Chewy
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Mar 31 2008, 01:42 PM
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![]() Bleepin' Night Watchman ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: BC Advisor Posts: 1,767 Joined: 5-December 05 From: The City of Saint Francis, by the western sea Member No.: 43,307 |
99.627% of the time, such downloads are illegal in the US of A. There are legal bittorrent TV show downloads available like from the official bittorrent site: http://www.bittorrent.com/tv-shows
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Mar 31 2008, 01:44 PM
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![]() Bleepin' Animin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Site Admin Posts: 5,871 Joined: 18-August 05 From: Now On... Member No.: 31,547 |
I'm going to assume that you are referring to a US television show. As I do not have any information about copyright laws as they pertain to other nations. Since this forum is based in the US we follow US copyright law. I found this well written section on another website. To preclude reinventing the wheel, and not saying it nearly as well I'll post it and link back to it, to avoid copyright infringement.
QUOTE One key copyright legal decision significantly shifted the future of American media. In the mid-1980s, the Supreme Court ruled that a viewer using a VCR to copy and “time-shift” a television broadcast for their personal use fell under fair use provisions and thus was not an infringement of copyright. This decision, widely known as the Betamax case, led to the growth of the VCR technology and a broad array of video copying and recording possibilities to be discussed in Chapter 6. Not all copying practices are protected by the Betamax case, as online file-sharing and tape-trading do not constitute personal fair use, but the case allowed technology companies to create and sell devices enabling both infringing and non-infringing uses. Today, recording broadcasts, time-shifting, and use of recorded material within classrooms or for critical commentaries are all fair uses that are exercised regularly across America, even though the television industry was tried to push for policies to restrict such uses. So the short story is, No it is not legal. Link to the entire article on Copyright and Television, by Jason Mittell: click here -------------------- The Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for some people it is a complete substitute for life. Andrew Brown ![]() "On the keyboard of life, always keep one finger on the escape key." — Scott Adams. |
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Mar 31 2008, 02:01 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 137 Joined: 30-March 08 From: Southampton, UK Member No.: 199,842 |
Even in the UK as that's where I live?
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Mar 31 2008, 04:34 PM
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![]() Bleepin' Animin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Site Admin Posts: 5,871 Joined: 18-August 05 From: Now On... Member No.: 31,547 |
I'd say it's illegal in the UK reading this: http://copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/uk_law_summary
QUOTE Copyright arises when an individual or organisation creates a work, and applies to a work if it is regarded as original, and exhibits a degree of labour, skill or judgement.
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Mar 31 2008, 06:24 PM
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Distinguished Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 707 Joined: 20-May 07 Member No.: 131,989 |
And don't forget when you download P2P, chances are pretty good you're downloading nasties as well. So even if it's free, you may end up paying in the long run.
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Mar 31 2008, 07:48 PM
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(DaChew; many thanks for prompting me to take a closer look at the link I provided
I came across a link to elsewhere which ( after consideration ) I have now removed but from it one is reminded that to download and distribute copyrighted material is illegal, so you proceed at your own risk maybe a good maxim is if in doubt ,DONT This post has been edited by ruby1: Apr 1 2008, 06:07 AM -------------------- |
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Mar 31 2008, 08:18 PM
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![]() Visiting Alien ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,987 Joined: 20-May 07 From: millenium falcon and rockytop Member No.: 131,963 |
ruby,
I would edit that post, your link promotes illegal downloads if I read it right what's really bad here in the USA is how they are doublecharging you for a show, you pay first time just to see it and maybe keep a copy for a little while but cannot back it up to dvd then later if you liked the season you get to pay for it again, and if that's gets damaged, buy yet another copy it's all about maximizing profits and they wonder why people don't have more ethics with their pirating? This post has been edited by DaChew: Mar 31 2008, 08:22 PM -------------------- Chewy
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Mar 31 2008, 08:46 PM
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In the UK, BBC have started something they're calling iPlayer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/channels/iplayer.shtml, which might be an alternative to piracy!
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Apr 1 2008, 02:15 AM
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![]() Bleepin' Night Watchman ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: BC Advisor Posts: 1,767 Joined: 5-December 05 From: The City of Saint Francis, by the western sea Member No.: 43,307 |
Aside from the legal perspective, there's the value question. I mean, when was the last time you saw a TV show that was actually worth watching? I've always envied you folks in the UK because every BBC program I've ever seen (which consist mainly of Monty Python, Black Adder, Fawlty Towers, etc.) blows away anything the American networks have come up with. Of course, I'd hate to have to buy a TV license like you Brits have to.
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Apr 3 2008, 07:12 AM
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In the UK, BBC have started something they're calling iPlayer: http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/channels/iplayer.shtml, which might be an alternative to piracy! and you can get all ch 4 programs a for a week after on 4od after that they are really cheap to buy |
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