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Feb 17 2008, 04:30 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 29-January 08 Member No.: 187,071 |
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Feb 17 2008, 06:08 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: BC Advisor Posts: 513 Joined: 15-July 06 From: In the middle of Kansas Member No.: 76,380 |
The Shell=Explorer.exe is REQUIRED to boot Windows 98.
Explorer.exe IS Windows. Iexplore.exe is Internet Explorer Do you have a 98 cd? This post has been edited by Eyesee: Feb 17 2008, 06:16 PM |
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Feb 17 2008, 06:40 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 29-January 08 Member No.: 187,071 |
I downloaded a win98 boot from bootdisk.com named win98boot.exe. I have put it on a cd.
I realize explorer.exe is windows,,,, It was my mistake for putting IE anywhere in my statements and I apologize I missread the warning. The warning message states "Problem loading explorer.exe you must reinstall windows". |
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Feb 17 2008, 07:02 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: BC Advisor Posts: 513 Joined: 15-July 06 From: In the middle of Kansas Member No.: 76,380 |
Make sure that the Shell=Explorer.exe line is present and not commented out in the [Boot] section of the system.ini file.
It is required! |
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Feb 17 2008, 07:20 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 29-January 08 Member No.: 187,071 |
EYESEE, how do I do that? If I type in EDIT c:\windows\system.ini
Well if I take the semi-colon out before explorer.exe on the boot menu\save\exit and restart the computer,, now I get a couple of messages before I get to the desktop that says "Cannot find a device file that may be need to run windows or a windows application the windows registry or system.ini file refers to this device file, but the device file no longer exists. If you deleted the file on purpose,try uninstalling the associated application using its uninstall or setup program. If you still want to use the application associated with this device file try reinstalling that application to replace the missing file. C:\PROGRA~1\SYMANTEC\SYMEVNT.386 press a key to continue When i press a key it does this again with a different ending-C:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~2\NORTON~1\SAVRT.VXD the next is C:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~2\Norton~1\SAVRTPEL.VXD then just SYMTDI.VXD, then CSHOOK.VXD. Then it goes to my desktop and before anything loads it tells me "ERROR LOADING EXPLORER.EXE you must reinstall windows",,, I click "OK" then the warning message apears about SHELL32.dll is linked to missing export shlwapi.dll:SHRegGetUSValueA . |
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Feb 18 2008, 12:32 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 29-January 08 Member No.: 187,071 |
Okay never mind, I was talked into running FDISK which didn't really help out. In fdisk I said yes to the large disk, and here is where I believe things went wrong, I deleted the partition(the only one running) and it told me to restart the computer to continue the fdisk process so I did and now I can only access bios, the cp get as far as the window with the math processor an Main processor, my primary master(cyl39770) and at the bottom is says
"searching for Boot Record from CDROM..not found--------although I have tried every boot disk the net has to offer searching for Boot Record from IDE-0..ok and then it stalls. Any ideas? |
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Feb 18 2008, 10:46 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: BC Advisor Posts: 513 Joined: 15-July 06 From: In the middle of Kansas Member No.: 76,380 |
Fdisk deletes the partition and all data on it. How big is this drive?
It is important to know that right off as you need the updated fdisk to access a drive > 64 gig otherwise it wont see it at the full capacity. Get it from Updated FDISK for drives > 64 gig Go into your system bios on startup and change the boot sequence to floppy first cd second hard drive third. Once it boots from a floppy run fdisk & see if the partition was created correctly & that it sees the entire capacity of the drive. If not, delete the partition & recreate it using the updated fdisk, make it active and reboot to the floppy. Then format the drive From an A:> prompt type FORMAT C: That could take a while, depending on the size of the drive NOTE 1: Make certain that fdisk reports the size correctly before formatting! NOTE 2: Format will misreport the size of the drive during the process but will be correct when finished. An 80 gig drive could take 45 minutes to an hour. As long as the counter is going let it run. It will ask for a volume label when finished. Leave it blank. It will then report the size correctly When you get that far post back as you want to install Windows 98 from the hard drive & not from the cd Need the make & model of this system to locate all drivers unless you have a restoration cd |
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Feb 18 2008, 11:25 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 29-January 08 Member No.: 187,071 |
EYESEE,,,,,,, wait,,,,, I can only access bios after that it searches for boot records on the floppy, then cdrom, then IDE-0 floppy & cdrom both results are "not found" the IDE-0 says "ok". I have tried every bootdisk, dos disk, and full installation cd. I just downloaded the quick fix from the link you provided, put it on a cdrom and tried to boot still nothing,,, do I have to have floppy's? I am putting all the files on cdrom (my new cp has no floppy so,,,).
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Feb 18 2008, 11:58 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: BC Advisor Posts: 513 Joined: 15-July 06 From: In the middle of Kansas Member No.: 76,380 |
Lets backup and regroup so we dont get off track
What kind of computer are we dealing with? Make & model? Does it have a floppy? How big is the hard drive? Did you change the boot sequence in the bios to floppy first cd second hdd third & save it? Do you have a 98 Second Edition cd? What does the label say on the 98 cd that you have? |
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Feb 18 2008, 12:27 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 29-January 08 Member No.: 187,071 |
Let's see the computer is a AMD? i can't find the model number, the hard drive is 20525mb, yes that computer has a floppy drive,, the computer I'm typing on doesn't(i tried to take the floppy out of the old cp and put it in this one to download to the floppy then swap it back but it doesn't fit in any of my connectors).
Yes in bios I did make floppy first, cdrom second, and IDE-O third(is ide-0 my hard drive? or is ide-1or ide-2?) The disk is windows 98 se and I have the serial number. Again I don't even know how to access dos on the faulty cp, f8 does nothing, I can access bios. |
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Feb 18 2008, 12:36 PM
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Forum Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 267 Joined: 25-January 07 Member No.: 108,272 |
I also disabled IE in system.ini. Sam I still need to know how you disabled IE in the System.ini? -------------------- Keith
http://www.martin2k.co.uk/forums I've been programming with VB for 12 years. Started with VB4 16bit Pro, VB5 Pro, VB6 Pro/Enterprise and now VB3 Pro. But I'm no expert, I'm still learning. |
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Feb 18 2008, 12:44 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: BC Advisor Posts: 513 Joined: 15-July 06 From: In the middle of Kansas Member No.: 76,380 |
Is this a custom build as opposed to a "name brand"?
20 gig hard drive right? Older system then. Updated fdisk is not necessary. IDE 0 is the one you want. I would try the 98 cd on the other computer just to see if you can boot from it. Put the cd in the other computer & see if you can read it. There should be a win98 folder on there. If you can read it shut the system down then turn it back on & see if it boots to the cd. (Check the boot sequence in the bios, cd first then hdd). 98 second edition cd's are bootable 98 first edition is not If that works, you know that the cd is good. If not, check the cd for scratches, finger prints etc. Clean if needed and try it again. If you have access to another computer with a floppy you can download and create a boot disk from www.bootdisk.com Try the cd on another computer first. That eliminates the cd as the problem |
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Feb 18 2008, 01:14 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 29-January 08 Member No.: 187,071 |
KEITH--- It was a mistake of mine I didn't disable IE I disabled Explore.exe. If you press f8 while computer has restarted select command prompt and type in EDIT c:\windows\system.ini it will take you to system boot look for Explorer.exe and at the beginning of the line insert a semi-colon ; now Alt+f save it now Alt=f and x to exit. Restart your computer and you will get so far before file manager opens. Go back into system.ini take out your ; and save/exit to restore.
EYESEE--My new computer is running winxp i will that affect anything? also we have had the computer for years I believe we got it from our uncle. |
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Feb 18 2008, 02:03 PM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: BC Advisor Posts: 513 Joined: 15-July 06 From: In the middle of Kansas Member No.: 76,380 |
No. All you want to do at this point is to ensure that you can read the cd and that you can boot from it.
The system should say "Press Any Key to boot from cd" Do that. Seelct start the computer with cdrom support. It will drop you to a DOS prompt. If it does that you know the cd is in fact bootable |
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Feb 18 2008, 03:25 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 38 Joined: 29-January 08 Member No.: 187,071 |
EYESEE, Well I put the disk in and rebooted and nothing happened, on the cd there is only 1 file aUIF file when I double click it asks if I want to use the web or select a prgm. from a list. I downloaded windows98 se from bootdisk.com downloaded directly to the floppy after formatting the floppy diskette, then tried to restart in good and bad computer( good computer said to remove media to restart, iremoved media it goes right to windows.
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