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 May 11 2008, 12:58 PM
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But I don't think Returnil is that easy to find a loophole. Edit: I can't edit that part... This post has been edited by skyfuser: May 11 2008, 12:59 PM -------------------- "If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way." - Bertrand Russell
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May 11 2008, 01:12 PM
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It least its not a resource hog.
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May 11 2008, 01:38 PM
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Senior Member Group: HJT Junior Classmen Posts: 438 Joined: 23-November 07 From: California Member No.: 171,969 |
Returnil isn't either... and besides you don't need it running until you really need it.
-------------------- "If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way." - Bertrand Russell
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May 11 2008, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(Amazing Andrew @ Apr 27 2008, 03:33 AM)  And Returnil will undo anything your antivirus does to delete viruses. So, bear that in mind when running it! So what your saying is to disable your AV program when using Returnil? Makes sense to do that when running in a virtual environment. |
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May 11 2008, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE So what your saying is to disable your AV program when using Returnil? I would keep mine on. If you get infected with a virus you could infect other non protected computers. You could enable protection if you do find a virus, Trojan, etc to prevent further damage until you can get rid of / fix the problem. This post has been edited by paperclip57: May 11 2008, 04:06 PM |
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May 11 2008, 08:34 PM
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 Bleepin' Night Watchman Group: BC Advisor Posts: 1,762 Joined: 5-December 05 From: The City of Saint Francis, by the western sea Member No.: 43,307 |
There is no substitute for a good antivirus program. Even when returnil is turned on, it only protects the drive upon which Windows is running. That means that is you have extra hard drives/partitions, flash drives, floppy drives, etc. then a virus could get saved onto them. Many manufacturers now include a hidden recovery partition with computers rather than a Windows CD; returnil won't protect it either.
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May 12 2008, 02:11 PM
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What about the MBR or the bios?
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May 13 2008, 05:13 AM
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Bleepin' Night Watchman Group: BC Advisor Posts: 1,762 Joined: 5-December 05 From: The City of Saint Francis, by the western sea Member No.: 43,307 |
Returnil does protect the MBR (http://www.returnilvirtualsystem.com/index_files/faqs.htm#25) but not the BIOS. As computer BIOS systems are not written to the hard disk (whereas MBR's are) but to a read-only memory chip, they are not protected from alteration on the operating system level
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May 13 2008, 02:29 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 46 Joined: 19-March 08 Member No.: 197,412 |
Ok thanks Andrew
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May 14 2008, 05:34 AM
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n how about the updates like windows update, anti virus update.... will it b saved in da system...or goin 2 b delete when system reboots ??
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May 14 2008, 08:53 AM
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Senior Member Group: HJT Junior Classmen Posts: 438 Joined: 23-November 07 From: California Member No.: 171,969 |
NOTHING will be saved. Anything you throw at it won't do anything to hurt your machine :D
-------------------- "If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way." - Bertrand Russell
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May 14 2008, 07:23 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 46 Joined: 19-March 08 Member No.: 197,412 |
Could you install the anitirus or put a game save in a unprotected portion of the hard drive. I did this with deep freeze.
Also If you click properties on the my documents folder icon you can change the target to another hard drive etc. If you don't feel like portation your hard drive to save your work there is a program called Maptool. More information about maptool can be found here. http://www.faronics.com/html/dfmappt.asp |
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May 14 2008, 08:34 PM
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Bleepin' Night Watchman Group: BC Advisor Posts: 1,762 Joined: 5-December 05 From: The City of Saint Francis, by the western sea Member No.: 43,307 |
you could indeed (though the changes made to the registry and other system files by a program installer would be lost.) Returnil also allows you to create a virtual partition to which you can save documents and other files without actually creating a second partition.
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Jun 24 2008, 11:55 AM
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Forgive me for resurrecting this thread (thankfully, it's not that old). But I'm very much struggling trying to decide between Sandboxie and Returnil. I've done lots of reading on both programs from their respective web sites. I understand Sandboxie is an application-based "virtualizer", whereas Returnil virtualizes your entire system. I also understand Sandboxie offers a few more features such as the ability to recover certain sandboxed downloads and the ability to select which sandboxed program can access the internet. Sandboxie and Returnil seem relatively simple to use. And both are marketed as being bullet-proof (a healthy level of skepticism is warranted here). So...how does one decide between installing one over the other? I suppose I could install both, but I'm not sure that is necessary. I want to use Sandboxie or Returnil to protect my system while on the internet and to "virtualize" programs such as TurboTax or games so that when I'm done using them, I can close the sandbox (Sandboxie) or reboot (Returnil) and everything is back as it was...nothing to uninstall...no registry fragments.
Comments very welcomed. |
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