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Oct 19 2007, 09:55 PM
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Oct 19 2007, 10:14 PM
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Distinguished Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: BC Advisor Posts: 738 Joined: 28-January 06 From: Australia Member No.: 52,817 |
Because of the different wavelength used for DVD and CD, drives use a dual laser. The commonest cause of this symptom is failure of the DVD section of the laser. A quick way to check is to attempt to boot from a bootable DVD - eg Vista Install DVD or Linux Live DVD, often supplied with computer magazines as a coverdisk. If the drive cannot read the DVD to boot from, but reads a CD OK, then it's a faulty drive. There's a faint possibility that an unusual dirtying of the laser lens is affecting the DVD beam only, so try a lens clean but that's an unlikely cause.
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Oct 19 2007, 11:26 PM
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![]() Visiting Alien ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,140 Joined: 20-May 07 From: millenium falcon and rockytop Member No.: 131,963 |
laptop dvd drives/burners are a bad idea, it's hard enough to get a full size one that works right for very long
we see way too many issues with them in support forums, people use them like they were intended for an everyday tool they are a toy same analogy with heavy duty gaming and laptops -------------------- Chewy
life is like a box of chocolates and stupid is as stupid does but you can always run |
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Oct 19 2007, 11:34 PM
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Forum Addict ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: BC Advisor Posts: 2,609 Joined: 6-November 05 From: Avondale, Arizona USA Member No.: 39,726 |
xx66stangxx, See if both of the laptops are able to use a bootable DVD to boot the computer, if they are able to, see if there is any P2P software loaded on the computer. Some P2P software is so poorly written that the installation routine messes up the upper and lower filter settings in the registry.
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Oct 20 2007, 01:42 PM
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will do, thanks!
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Oct 20 2007, 05:50 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 139 Joined: 6-July 06 From: O.C. Member No.: 74,928 |
ok I booted up his laptop with my vista dvd and it recognized it and started copying the files so I know it still can recognize dvd's, do you think bearshare could be the cause the dvd not working?
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Oct 21 2007, 01:07 AM
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![]() Visiting Alien ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,140 Joined: 20-May 07 From: millenium falcon and rockytop Member No.: 131,963 |
I would suspect corrupted filter drivers from sonic/poxio/itunes etc
http://www.bustrace.com/products/devfilter.htm http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb%3Ben...p;x=12&y=13 people think that they can load just about anything on a computer without having problems, it's not a matter of ram or cpu but a problem with badly written software, and there's a lot of that out there This post has been edited by DaChew: Oct 21 2007, 01:08 AM -------------------- Chewy
life is like a box of chocolates and stupid is as stupid does but you can always run |
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Oct 21 2007, 01:13 AM
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Forum Addict ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: BC Advisor Posts: 2,609 Joined: 6-November 05 From: Avondale, Arizona USA Member No.: 39,726 |
Bearshare hosed the filters. The links given in DaChew's post should help you fix the issue.
**WARNING** **WARNING** **WARNING** **WARNING** Don't mess around in the registry if you are unsure about anything, and as always BACKUP -------------------- The name says it all -- 59 and holding permanently
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Oct 21 2007, 02:18 AM
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![]() Visiting Alien ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,140 Joined: 20-May 07 From: millenium falcon and rockytop Member No.: 131,963 |
or download ImgBurn and let it remove the filters for you
what in the heck is a P2P app doing messing with bus driver for? This post has been edited by DaChew: Oct 21 2007, 02:20 AM -------------------- Chewy
life is like a box of chocolates and stupid is as stupid does but you can always run |
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Oct 21 2007, 03:05 AM
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Forum Addict ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: BC Advisor Posts: 2,609 Joined: 6-November 05 From: Avondale, Arizona USA Member No.: 39,726 |
DaChew, It does not happen with all machines. The P2P applications don't detect the hardware they just install filters for their own purposes, and to monitor what the users are burning with the free version. I have never seen the paid versions of P2P applications mess up the registry.
-------------------- The name says it all -- 59 and holding permanently
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Oct 21 2007, 07:20 AM
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![]() Still visually handicapped, new avatar :0) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Global Moderator Posts: 15,528 Joined: 2-October 05 From: Southeastern CT, USA Member No.: 35,824 |
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a well-designed P2P app - they do what they're supposed to do. The issue comes when they're used to download something that's infected (and is the most common reason for the bad name that P2P has received).
FWIW - At work I've only seen 2 systems with P2P installed that weren't infected (over the last year I've probably seen well over 100 of them). And infections can cause all sorts of havoc with a system. If I get a system in for repair that's got P2P installed, the first thing that I do is check thoroughly for malware - and I've been right in all but the above 2 cases. So, the troubleshooting should start with some thorough anti-malware scans and once malware is ruled out, the rest of the troubleshooting is generally easy. -------------------- - John
**If you need a more detailed explanation, please ask for it. I have the Knack. ** BTW - the avatar pic is a camel as it looks back at me while I'm in the saddle (and he wasn't happy!) |
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Oct 21 2007, 10:21 PM
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![]() Visiting Alien ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,140 Joined: 20-May 07 From: millenium falcon and rockytop Member No.: 131,963 |
I have never seen P2P mess with the bus and I go back beyond napster days, trojans and virii mess with a lot more than the bus.
I try to specialize in this kind of problem, never run into the malware causing it tho. Never seen it over at my other 2 forums? -------------------- Chewy
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Oct 30 2007, 12:06 AM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 139 Joined: 6-July 06 From: O.C. Member No.: 74,928 |
sorry for taking so long to reply, college has been kicking my butt, but I will try and get his laptop so I can try out the suggestions and I will reply back a.s.a.p.
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Oct 30 2007, 07:44 AM
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![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 466 Joined: 21-November 06 From: UK Member No.: 96,856 |
If you haven't sorted your problem, could I ask a couple of questions:
- What make and model of laptops are you using? - The DVD's you are trying to use/open/play/copy are they (i) blank media, (ii) shop brought films, (iii) DVD's created by yourself or another? - Have you tried a different type of media / blank DVD. This post has been edited by FireKracker: Oct 30 2007, 07:45 AM -------------------- If all else fails, hit the reset button.
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