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Who Do You Think Is The Man And Women Of The 20th Century?

#46 User is offline   ryan_w_quick 

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Posted 06 October 2007 - 04:01 PM

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I think George Lucas is the man of the 20th century (at least in America). I think his ideas have molded much of the movie, book, and other entertainment businesses. And let's face it, here in America, people love to be entertained.
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Posted 07 October 2007 - 10:04 AM

[quote name='JohnWho' post='632366' date='Oct 6 2007, 03:20 PM']What we do know is that the US is the only country to have actually used an "atomic" bomb, and this will no doubt always be a controversial issue.[/quote]
Simply because there are a lot of people that don't let trivial little things like facts get in their way. Personally, I believe a lot of the BS going on around us today could be stopped with a few surgical nuke strikes. Though we'd probably have to carpet-nuke California. :thumbsup:

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Posted 07 October 2007 - 12:20 PM

Personally I feel this is not even a legitimate comparison. Except one may argue that neither was doing actual medical research,Truman and the Bomb or Rascher and Mengele. But the reference that both killed many for the better of mankind is silly. Truman's did work,bluff or not and that was it's intenetion. Brutality and inhumane acts of torture were neither needed nor being done as research to benefit mankind. They were researching more ways to kill people. The consequenses of what happened to theses Jews was not even a factor. Whereas Mr Truman knew and suffered in his conscience the result of such an action.
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Posted 07 October 2007 - 04:51 PM

"Brutality and inhumane acts of torture were neither needed nor being done as research to benefit mankind. They were researching more ways to kill people. "


Actually you are wrong. Whether you believe it was a good way to go about things or not, Rascher actually was doing research on the Jews. I'm not disputing that it was extremely cruel, and possibly not needed. But he was trying to find out what happened to the body when exposed to cold, in order to better prepare German troops in cold climates like Russia.
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Posted 07 October 2007 - 07:14 PM

Ok yes in that instance it was a form of research. But still there is no comparison to Truman's action. One is to end all the killing and not an experiment. The other is to keep killing, no?
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Posted 07 October 2007 - 07:32 PM

I winder what they were hoping to "learn" by strapping together the legs of women in labor.

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Posted 07 October 2007 - 10:53 PM

[quote name='MattV' post='633185' date='Oct 7 2007, 08:32 PM']I winder what they were hoping to "learn" by strapping together the legs of women in labor.[/quote]


Well, that is not research. Those experiments cannot be defended in any way.
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Posted 08 October 2007 - 08:03 AM

Nor could the medical experiments on unwilling participants.
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Posted 08 October 2007 - 09:15 AM

As the popular phrase goes....

The ends do not always justify the means.

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Posted 08 October 2007 - 09:28 AM

[quote name='ryan_w_quick' post='633265' date='Oct 7 2007, 11:53 PM'][quote name='MattV' post='633185' date='Oct 7 2007, 08:32 PM']I winder what they were hoping to "learn" by strapping together the legs of women in labor.[/quote]


Well, that is not research. Those experiments cannot be defended in any way.
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Posted 08 October 2007 - 04:09 PM

[quote name='JohnWho' post='633451' date='Oct 8 2007, 09:03 AM']Nor could the medical experiments on unwilling participants.[/quote]


My only point is that it is obvious that some experiments were only done to cruelly torture people, some were actually done to learn about the human body.
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Posted 08 October 2007 - 04:53 PM

Collectively,I think all the early Inventors of the Internal Combustion Engines,whether it be for Industry,Transport or the Automobile deserve a mention here. :thumbsup:














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Posted 09 October 2007 - 03:46 PM

I live in a VERY hot place, So to me the guy who invented AC will be my candidate. I guess the desition of who will be the man/woman of the century depends on your actuall enviroment. I mean for some poeple that live in a mountain, electricity will not be like the greatest invention of the 20th century.

Some may think LSD is a great invention, cause according to Discovery Channel, many modern inventions were made under the influence of this and other drugs, including computers. :flowers:

By saying this I just want to make the point that choosing the man/woman of the century is hard and depends on where you live at and your enviroment. So thers is not such thing as a correct/wrong answer, it's just a matter of opinion, and all opinions are valid.

I wanna add this is not a useless post. As a matter of fact this is very interesting, cause it's always good to read different opinions of the same subject.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 01:12 AM

After watching 'Boston Legal' tonight :thumbsup: , I think I may have to change my vote to whoever invented the condom. Aids is a frightful thing that affects not just families but society in general - yup, I'd have to go back thousands of years to find the original inventor but good for him/her!
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