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Sep 6 2007, 11:47 AM
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![]() Bleepin' Conundrum ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Global Moderator Posts: 8,372 Joined: 26-April 04 From: 65 miles due East of the "Logic Free Zone", in Md, USA Member No.: 235 |
NEW YORK -A federal judge struck down parts of the revised USA Patriot Act on Thursday, saying investigators must have a court's approval before they can order Internet providers to turn over records without telling customers. Associated Press By LARRY NEUMEISTER 09.06.07, 11:34 AM ET U.S. District Judge Victor Marrero said the government orders must be subject to meaningful judicial review and that the recently rewritten Patriot Act "offends the fundamental constitutional principles of checks and balances and separation of powers." -------------------- |
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Sep 6 2007, 12:12 PM
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![]() Can't decide what to use, so I won't use anything. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Global Moderator Posts: 13,016 Joined: 6-May 04 From: SW Louisiana Member No.: 363 |
WOW, a judge with some common sense.
Renews my faith in the judicial system (just joking -------------------- I love being married.
It's so great to find that one special person you want to annoy, for the rest of your life. |
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Sep 6 2007, 12:18 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 82 Joined: 27-October 06 Member No.: 92,296 |
This is a small step in the right direction. The Patriot Act gives the government the OK to trample the constitution. I think America will show their frustration in 2008 and elect someone who will take a more sensible approach to protecting the nation.
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Sep 6 2007, 12:20 PM
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Forum Addict ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,360 Joined: 10-April 07 From: Atlanta, Georgia Member No.: 123,538 |
With comments like the above, I hope this gets moved to the "Speak Easy" forum.
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Sep 7 2007, 04:46 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 26 Joined: 18-January 07 Member No.: 106,954 |
yes! We must fight the police state!
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Sep 8 2007, 06:59 AM
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![]() Forum Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 11-June 07 From: Cymru/Wales Member No.: 136,036 |
Looks like there's some hope for the USA yet.
-------------------- Tom
Tswsl1989 Duct tape is like the force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together |
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Sep 8 2007, 09:29 AM
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![]() Forum Addict ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Global Moderator Posts: 18,918 Joined: 11-April 04 From: Chicago, Il. Member No.: 113 |
This is certainly a step in the right direction. We here are fortunate to live under the rule of law and have a Constitution that protects citizens from the abuse of power.
John -------------------- Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one should be silent.
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Sep 8 2007, 12:36 PM
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![]() Bleepin' Conundrum ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Global Moderator Posts: 8,372 Joined: 26-April 04 From: 65 miles due East of the "Logic Free Zone", in Md, USA Member No.: 235 |
...have a Constitution that protects citizens from the abuse of power. John ^ more or less I guess, as I'm still being abused by the local PowerCo here. (giggle) I'm sure this decision is already deep in various Federal appeals - tho' I've not found another link to such, yet. -------------------- |
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Sep 10 2007, 08:25 PM
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![]() I can see what you post! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,302 Joined: 14-February 05 From: Somewhere in North East Ohio Member No.: 12,053 |
What is the point of a government that makes you think it's protecting you if they aren't? If the government claims that they are protecting us from the enemy then who is to protect us from them abusing their power? Hence why we should have a checks and balances system. But since 9/11 it's more like a straight debit card to your freedoms.
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Oct 12 2007, 10:02 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 12-October 07 From: S.C,USA Member No.: 162,602 |
Federal Judge Strikes Down Part Of Patriot Act . At least there is part of our judicial system that has some common sense about the rights and freedoms of the 90% of americans doing the "right thing". I wonder how many spins this country's forefathers have done in their graves at the state of this nation. That is the end of my soapbox.
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Oct 27 2007, 01:39 AM
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![]() Can't decide what to use, so I won't use anything. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Global Moderator Posts: 13,016 Joined: 6-May 04 From: SW Louisiana Member No.: 363 |
The link to the article at Forbes.com no longer works, but here's the original article from the Associated Press, by the original author, LARRY NEUMEISTER:
Judge Strikes Down Part of Patriot Act . . This post has been edited by tg1911: Oct 28 2007, 10:41 PM -------------------- I love being married.
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Oct 27 2007, 04:10 AM
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![]() Visiting Alien ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,942 Joined: 20-May 07 From: millenium falcon Member No.: 131,963 |
The Sith and the Dark side have been strong lately, most people are too ignorant to understand the "balance in the force", enabling the "Dark Lord"'s trampling of their freedom in the name of homeland security. Nice to see the Pendulum swing back.
It's kind of interesting that politicians, government officials and the military can commit any crime they want without significant chance of punishment, maybe if we had made an example of Nixon and thrown him in prison like he deserved there might be a little more honesty in government "for the people and by the people". -------------------- |
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Nov 30 2007, 05:01 PM
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the gov. realy should have to get a warrent as free run to do what ever they want will lead to corruption
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Dec 15 2007, 02:31 AM
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin
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Jan 9 2008, 11:06 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 19 Joined: 30-December 07 From: Rosendale, NY Member No.: 179,871 |
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin I second that quote! -------------------- "Understanding is a three-edged sword." -- President John Sheridan |
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