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#1 Nancy9108

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 07:07 PM

After a long session to get rid of a rootkit (finally did thanks to Gringo_pr) I was advised to keep CCleaner on my computer. I have obtained a new computer but I have no idea what places I should check mark. Also, do I check mark to have it clean the registry? I need advice on this program. I used to use System Mechanic Pro, but it looked like it was causing my old computer major problems. I remember Grinco_pr saying don't have any program on the computer that will change the registry. Could someone please help advise me on this?
I would be very grateful. Thank you. Nancy9108

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 07:28 PM

Hi Nancy... The registry option for Ccleaner can be left alone or not advisable to be used no matter how high it is reported to be safe. You can uncheck the following options and leave the other boxes for better browsing experience.

Leave this options checkmarked which means the other boxes are not :
Internet Explorer and other browsers

Temporary Internet Files
Index.dat
Last Download Action

Windows Explorer

All with Checkmarks or default

System

Empty the recycle bin
Temporary Files
Clipboard

The remaining boxes under Application will be checkmarked also or by default.

Edited by jhayz, 06 December 2012 - 07:28 PM.

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#3 marko016

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 05:13 PM

You have Iolo System Mechanic free, this year release. It have tons of options so might help you. PC tools registry mechanic is also good product.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 05:24 PM

Bleeping Computer DOES NOT recommend the use of registry cleaners/optimizers for several reasons:

• Registry cleaners are extremely powerful applications that can damage the registry by using aggressive cleaning routines and cause your computer to become unbootable.

The Windows registry is a central repository (database) for storing configuration data, user settings and machine-dependent settings, and options for the operating system. It contains information and settings for all hardware, software, users, and preferences. Whenever a user makes changes to settings, file associations, system policies, or installed software, the changes are reflected and stored in this repository. The registry is a crucial component because it is where Windows "remembers" all this information, how it works together, how Windows boots the system and what files it uses when it does. The registry is also a vulnerable subsystem, in that relatively small changes done incorrectly can render the system inoperable. For a more detailed explanation, read Understanding The Registry.

• Not all registry cleaners are created equal. There are a number of them available but they do not all work entirely the same way. Each vendor uses different criteria as to what constitutes a "bad entry". One cleaner may find entries on your system that will not cause problems when removed, another may not find the same entries, and still another may want to remove entries required for a program to work.

• Not all registry cleaners create a backup of the registry before making changes. If the changes prevent the system from booting up, then there is no backup available to restore it in order to regain functionality. A backup of the registry is essential BEFORE making any changes to the registry.

• Improperly removing registry entries can hamper malware disinfection and make the removal process more difficult if your computer becomes infected. For example, removing malware related registry entries before the infection is properly identified can contribute to system instability and even make the malware undetectable to removal tools.

• The usefulness of cleaning the registry is highly overrated and can be dangerous. In most cases, using a cleaner to remove obsolete, invalid, and erroneous entries does not affect system performance but it can result in "unpredictable results".

Unless you have a particular problem that requires a registry edit to correct it, I would suggest you leave the registry alone. Using registry cleaning tools unnecessarily or incorrectly could lead to disastrous effects on your operating system such as preventing it from ever starting again. For routine use, the benefits to your computer are negligible while the potential risks are great.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 05:49 PM

For some strange reason, CCleaner gets a lot of bad press in this forum. I have to wonder if the critics have actually used it. The registry cleaner in CCleaner is just about totally useless, not because it deletes unnecessary stuff, it finds so little to delete. It wouldn't say boo to a goose. On my PC, 0-6 items per scan. Mostly MUI Cache stuff. The registry cleaner is only a small portion of what CCleaner does. I run the registry cleaner manually. It's unwise to run any registry utility on auto.

You have to be selective about what you do. In the Windows section I only have 11 items checked. I include a number of programs in the Applications tab. The cookie cutter is great - you can put the cookies you want in a Keep list. All others get deleted if you have checked the boxes for cookies for browsers and email clients and then run CCleaner.

Initially you should run manually to see what it finds in the Analysis. Backup any registry changes when prompted when running the cleaner. It's handy creating a shortcut with the /auto switch, "C:\Program Files\CCleaner\ccleaner.exe" /auto because then it runs in the background. You can run it any time normally to Analyse/Run Cleaner.

I've used CCleaner for years without a single issue. The registry cleaner utility I've run 154 times since 2005 (which I know because I have 154 .reg backups).

I'm not sure it will help with future rootkit issues though!

Edit: There is no setting that I am aware of in CCleaner where there is a checkbox which would run the registry cleaner. The registry cleaner is purely manual. Nancy9108, are you getting confused with the Regedit box in Applications/Windows? All that does is clean the recently used list of Regedit. I assume (and am guessing) that if you bookmark in Regedit and a bookmarked key no longer exists, it would remove the bookmark.

Edited by Nanobyte, 10 December 2012 - 02:05 AM.


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Posted 10 December 2012 - 04:38 PM

For some strange reason, CCleaner gets a lot of bad press in this forum.

Not CCleaner in particular, but registry "cleaners" in general. CCleaner's other tools are very good.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 02:59 AM

You have Iolo System Mechanic free, this year release. It have tons of options so might help you. PC tools registry mechanic is also good product.

Only if you are an experienced user,REGISTRY CLEANERS ARE NOT FOR BEGGINERS! (They can be quite aggrasive and the majority of ppl would just blindly delete what it finds w/o checking first (Not thier fault,they simply dont know))

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:14 PM

You have Iolo System Mechanic free, this year release. It have tons of options so might help you. PC tools registry mechanic is also good product.

Only if you are an experienced user,REGISTRY CLEANERS ARE NOT FOR BEGGINERS! (They can be quite aggrasive and the majority of ppl would just blindly delete what it finds w/o checking first (Not thier fault,they simply dont know))



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Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:03 AM

I can testify that registry tools are dangerous to use, from both personal experience editing the registry and free tools out there that search for and fix registry "errors." Please, unless you're prepared to learn about the registry and research each "error" found, you should avoid them.

I am not a ranking expert, but perhaps this will help. If you're uncertain what a particular option does, please post about it here. Here are the options I have checked in CCleaner:
Windows Tab
Internet Explorer:
  • I don't clean the Recently Typed URLs because it helps me to locate websites I want to visit again but didn't bookmark. (getting too forgetful) However, there's no harm in cleaning it. The same can be said for Last Download Location, Autocomplete Form History (if you don't want things to be filled in automatically!) and Saved Passwords.
  • Temporary Internet Files
  • History
  • Cookies
Windows Explorer:
  • I don't checkmark Recent Documents because I find it handy to find things, but it is a good idea to clean it up from time to time. I'm not on a Network, so I don't bother with the Network Passwords.
  • Run (in Start Menu)
  • Search Autocomplete
  • Other Explorer MRUs
  • Thumbnail Cache
  • Taskbar Jump List
System:
  • Empty Recycle Bin
  • Temporary Files
  • Clipboard
  • Memory Dumps
  • Chkdsk File Fragments
  • Windows Log Files
  • Windows Error Reporting
Applications Tab
Firefox/Mozilla:
I only check the following, but you could certainly check them all.
  • Internet Cache
  • Cookies
  • Session
  • Compact Databases
Safari
I only check the following, but you could certainly check them all.
  • Internet Cache
  • Cookies
Google Chrome
I only check the following, but you could certainly check them all.
  • Internet Cache
  • Cookies
  • Session
  • Compact Databases

All other sections after the browsers are dependent on what you have on your computer and which programs you want cleaned up.

I hope this helped.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 06:32 PM

You have Iolo System Mechanic free, this year release. It have tons of options so might help you. PC tools registry mechanic is also good product.


I would seriously not recommend either of those programs.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 07:31 PM


You have Iolo System Mechanic free, this year release. It have tons of options so might help you. PC tools registry mechanic is also good product.


I would seriously not recommend either of those programs.





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Posted 17 December 2012 - 02:20 PM

Ccleaner is great to perform a general maintenance: clean temporary files, check startup entries, uninstall un-needed programs, remove old restore points...

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 09:16 PM

I looked @ it 1 time and didnt like it,i use regseeker :) (1.45)

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 10:22 PM

I looked @ it 1 time and didnt like it,i use regseeker :) (1.45)



Once again 4dude SEE POST 4 above

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 02:45 PM

Upon the suggestion of Gringo_pr I installed CCleaner basic. After getting a new computer I thought I should have the CCleaner Pro. The problem I have had since 12/16 is that I can not get it to register or update. A piriform support person has now exceeded 40 messages of things to try. To no avail I still get a message of "Ox2efd: A connection with the server could not be established." They state that the subscription is not activated because of this ongoing error. I have tried uninstalling, reinstalling,using 5 Hostsxpert.exe to restore microsoft default host file, (have no idea what that is but I did it) cleared the internet SSL cache, added it as a trusted website, unchecked automatically detect Lan settings amongst other things.

I have windows 7 and using Avast security system and malwarebytes.

Does anyone have a suggestion as to what to do? Do I continue to work with CCleaner PRO and try to get it to work, go back to CCleaner basic or go to a different program? Since I have this new machine I am trying extremely hard to keep it cleaned, up to date and rootkit trojan free (which is what Gringo_pr helped me with last time)

Anyone to help me? Thank you again.

Nancy9108




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