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Kaspersky's doom day warning


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#1 OldPhil

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 05:00 PM

http://www.rt.com/news/kaspersky-fears-cyber-pandemic-170/

It is time for a cyber terrorism world treaty, if the infrastructure crumbles so do we!!!!

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#2 Galadriel

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:28 AM

Wow. I have the utmost respect for the guy (Eugene Kaspersky), but how is that news? Has he just discovered the risks that we've all known about for years and years? He's starting to sound like one of those doomsday church pastors..... Just my $.02. While there's some pretty bad crap out there, shouting at the top of your lungs that "it's the end of the world as we know it", is a surefire way to lose credibility, especially when you're being serious. Does he really think the governments have not already been waging cyber war against one another until now? Please. Reality check? Where's he been the last 10 years?

Edited by Galadriel, 08 June 2012 - 07:30 AM.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 06:23 AM

For most parts, they are all indirectly admitting that Anti Virus Software has failed.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 04:18 PM

<Yoda>Drumming up sales, you are.</Yoda>

Die Hard 4 wasn't exactly realistic, more of a concept without proof. Com'on, a Multi Transport Container filled with people and computers constantly connected to the internet as it drove down the road? Trust me, not possible, the data systems for mobile use aren't anywhere near that good yet.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 05:31 PM

@Jeff H.

If you take a look at Mikko Hypponen's post about it, you'll see a marked difference in tone, yet he acknowledges that failure in a much deeper and direct way than Eugene Kaspersky's words can ever be interpreted to mean, however much you stretch the figurative sense of his words. Kaspersky's warning, is just that, a warning. Mikko took the approach of a post-mortem regard at the situation and give a possible explanation as to why exactly the current antivirus model was destined to fail in this way. This was foreseen a long time ago (hence my comment about the last 10 years). I remember having a conversation with an analyst/engineer working on major AV engines about something very close to this a long long time ago.... AVs by definition play catch up. They aren't proactive measures, they are reactive measures! When they can't identify that there is a threat, they are like a sleeping guard. Also, information sharing between security vendors was very limited (and in many cases, still is) as they all have their own detection mechanisms, methods of implementing defs and so on... This isn't going to change. AVs should not be looked at the cure all of the security problem online. They will *never* be that, no matter how much they wish it to be, or how much the public would like to not have to deal with the problem and let their all-in-one-super-100%-guaranteed-AV kick every piece of malware in the nuts. Ain't gonna happen, ever. If anyone that prominent in the security industry is still surprised by this, I don't get it, and have lost much respect for such persons.
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 11:15 AM

I would assume that sophisticated crime family/malware authors routinely try their latest creations against most popular AV tools.Wouldn't be surprised if they had probing type software to automatically tweak things until they find an entry.
They probably maintain a library of entry points so they can release updated versions of their malware as patches are produced.
Ultimately the only answer will be software permanently burned on to a disc that cannot be altered. ( I know " This can't be done" as people have told me before. But I think in time it will be)

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 05:03 PM

“I'm afraid it will be the end of the world as we know it," he warned.

Does he not realize...that happens with every measure of time that we calculate? Change is the basic fiber of the world and the world "ends" with every passing measure...well, I'd really say "evolves" but I'm not prone to use overly dramatic phrases to describe what is ordinary.

As for cyber-terrorism, that's really been known/stated/expected for a significant number of years by those who have worked with classified information storage.

I guess that next week...he'll announce his amazing discovery that the next full moon occurs on 3 July 2012.

Hmmm.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 02:20 AM

Hello World! First time posting her but I' ve been lurking and learning and thus cleaning systems for friends for about 4 years now. I am pinging the malware removal course enrollment site until there is an opening and I can apply.

As to the philisophical topic, it seems to me that the AV approach being reactionary is somewhat given based on two factors. The juman element (users) are a huge risk in any security scheme, but the enviornment we currently compute in is rife with file systems and OS handles that make the users experience easier, but leaves gaping holes for intrusion.

Just my 2p. Its the age old "would you rather be safe or free" quandry.




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