Many people say pornography is immoral. Here are some of their arguments:
http://www.wowessays.com/dbase/af5/dtb82.shtml
http://enlightenment.supersaturated.com/es...hyfeminism.html
This site also deals with pornography and it's supposed anti-feministic nature.
Here are some sites which say pornography is not immoral:
http://www.msu.edu/~hypatia/reviews/Soble.htm
This site is a response to the above site.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/7...in_america.html
So what do you think? Is pornography immoral, or ok as long as it's between consenting adults?
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I am unable to edit, so here is my point of view on this matter:
Simply, I think pornography between consenting adults is acceptible. Naturally, if it's not consenting, it is violating a person and generally construed as rape. But if they both agree, and are willing to have sex/show their body on camera, who's to say they can't?
I look forward to reading your opinions
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Simply, I think pornography between consenting adults is acceptible. Naturally, if it's not consenting, it is violating a person and generally construed as rape. But if they both agree, and are willing to have sex/show their body on camera, who's to say they can't?
I look forward to reading your opinions
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IF what a couple willingly do between themselves, including filming, remains just that, private, I think it's no one's business but their own.
I would think there would have to be a heck of a lot of long-term trust between them, though. Suspect many a young woman has lived to regret her decision if, after a break-up, it leads to her photo being shown all over the internet and elsewhere without her permission.
(I suppose that could work in reverse too - men having their photos spread all over the internet by a disgruntled ex-girlfriend or wife. In either case, one could only hope their kids don't go internet prowling some night and spot mommy or daddy - eek!).
I would think there would have to be a heck of a lot of long-term trust between them, though. Suspect many a young woman has lived to regret her decision if, after a break-up, it leads to her photo being shown all over the internet and elsewhere without her permission.
(I suppose that could work in reverse too - men having their photos spread all over the internet by a disgruntled ex-girlfriend or wife. In either case, one could only hope their kids don't go internet prowling some night and spot mommy or daddy - eek!).
Most pornography, I suspect, is between complete strangers. They get paid to have sex on film. Nothing more, nothing less. There is rarely ever a relationship. Unless a couple decided to sell film they recorded of themselves having sex, so they could get a little extra cash.
Guess if no one watched porn or bought porn photos, etc, the people making it would decide it wasn't profitable? (I'm speaking of adults here, not children - suspect we'd agree on what should happen to parents that permit it with children or people who make it, in addition to the people who watch it - ick and huge boo and hiss!).
So far you are only talking about porn between adults in marriage.
Does this topic cover porn among teens and singles?
Do you only consider movies porn?
Does this topic cover porn among teens and singles?
Do you only consider movies porn?
I'm referring to porn of adults only. Underage sex is a different matter. And it doesn't have to be movies; pictures are basically the same thing. And like I said, most porn has nothing to do with marriage.
First off underage porn or viewing of porn is illegal so its wrong. However if 2 (or more) consenting adults create it and it is viewed by willing parties then I dont see a problem with it.
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IF what a couple willingly do between themselves, including filming, remains just that, private, I think it's no one's business but their own.
I would think there would have to be a heck of a lot of long-term trust between them, though. Suspect many a young woman has lived to regret her decision if, after a break-up, it leads to her photo being shown all over the internet and elsewhere without her permission.
(I suppose that could work in reverse too - men having their photos spread all over the internet by a disgruntled ex-girlfriend or wife. In either case, one could only hope their kids don't go internet prowling some night and spot mommy or daddy - eek!).
I would think there would have to be a heck of a lot of long-term trust between them, though. Suspect many a young woman has lived to regret her decision if, after a break-up, it leads to her photo being shown all over the internet and elsewhere without her permission.
(I suppose that could work in reverse too - men having their photos spread all over the internet by a disgruntled ex-girlfriend or wife. In either case, one could only hope their kids don't go internet prowling some night and spot mommy or daddy - eek!).
Totally agree with your post 'MaraM' How many times making a video,has it come back to haunt the participants, later when their relationships go "Belly Up"?A very risky practice IMHO.
QUOTE(DSTM @ Jul 6 2007, 10:29 PM)
QUOTE(MaraM @ Jul 7 2007, 01:06 PM)
IF what a couple willingly do between themselves, including filming, remains just that, private, I think it's no one's business but their own.
I would think there would have to be a heck of a lot of long-term trust between them, though. Suspect many a young woman has lived to regret her decision if, after a break-up, it leads to her photo being shown all over the internet and elsewhere without her permission.
(I suppose that could work in reverse too - men having their photos spread all over the internet by a disgruntled ex-girlfriend or wife. In either case, one could only hope their kids don't go internet prowling some night and spot mommy or daddy - eek!).
I would think there would have to be a heck of a lot of long-term trust between them, though. Suspect many a young woman has lived to regret her decision if, after a break-up, it leads to her photo being shown all over the internet and elsewhere without her permission.
(I suppose that could work in reverse too - men having their photos spread all over the internet by a disgruntled ex-girlfriend or wife. In either case, one could only hope their kids don't go internet prowling some night and spot mommy or daddy - eek!).
Totally agree with your post 'MaraM' How many times making a video,has it come back to haunt the participants, later when their relationships go "Belly Up"?A very risky practice IMHO.
Your refering to someone making a porno, then later deciding to have a relationship, and their lover finds out they were in a porno? Yes, that can be very troubling. But if they want to do it, it's their choice.
So porn "stars" are just fine and dandy to you? Its just a job???
What do you think of that? Do you think posing naked in playboy or any other porn magazine or even doing a porn movie is okay?
What do you think of that? Do you think posing naked in playboy or any other porn magazine or even doing a porn movie is okay?
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So porn "stars" are just fine and dandy to you? Its just a job???
What do you think of that? Do you think posing naked in playboy or any other porn magazine or even doing a porn movie is okay?
What do you think of that? Do you think posing naked in playboy or any other porn magazine or even doing a porn movie is okay?
Everything you have said is true. So why don't you tell me why you disagree? Also, I'm well aware aware of why it's not ok religiously, so can you tell me why it's not ok without religion?
I would love to have a friendly debate
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Thing I wonder is: where does sex and experimenting with it stop and where does the pornography begin? I mean, who can judge if it's pure porn? I think it's a thin and subjective line.
My wife watches porn with me, but we both have to be in the mood. Weve never watched one yet, all the way to the end, without her getting turned on.
Where is the harm.??? The kids are out and we are on our own.
Where is the harm.??? The kids are out and we are on our own.
QUOTE(scouse6 @ Jul 8 2007, 01:42 PM)
My wife watches porn with me, but we both have to be in the mood. Weve never watched one yet, all the way to the end, without her getting turned on.
Where is the harm.??? The kids are out and we are on our own.
Where is the harm.??? The kids are out and we are on our own.
Good aphrodisiac if you ask me!
QUOTE(scouse6 @ Jul 8 2007, 04:42 AM)
My wife watches porn with me, but we both have to be in the mood. Weve never watched one yet, all the way to the end, without her getting turned on.
Where is the harm.??? The kids are out and we are on our own.
Where is the harm.??? The kids are out and we are on our own.
Exactly. Where is the harm? It's between consenting adults and no one gets hurt, and everybody wins!
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My wife watches porn with me, but we both have to be in the mood. Weve never watched one yet, all the way to the end, without her getting turned on.
Where is the harm.??? The kids are out and we are on our own.
Where is the harm.??? The kids are out and we are on our own.
Okay so you know why its not okay religious wise thats my reason.
If you want my opinion on it....
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My wife watches porn with me, but we both have to be in the mood. Weve never watched one yet, all the way to the end, without her getting turned on.
Where is the harm.??? The kids are out and we are on our own.
Where is the harm.??? The kids are out and we are on our own.
You need porn for this...
People using their bodies like they do in porn is so sad its not funny. Degrading to ones self for sure. Thats what I think of it. Religiously its immoral and very wrong.
You need porn for this...
People using their bodies like they do in porn is so sad its not funny. Degrading to ones self for sure. Thats what I think of it. Religiously its immoral and very wrong.
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If people are using their bodies like they do in porn, then it's their choice. This has nothing to do with religion IMHO. And another thing, porn is not THE way to get aroused. It's ANOTHER way to get aroused.
People using their bodies like they do in porn is so sad its not funny. Degrading to ones self for sure. Thats what I think of it. Religiously its immoral and very wrong.
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If people are using their bodies like they do in porn, then it's their choice. This has nothing to do with religion IMHO. And another thing, porn is not THE way to get aroused. It's ANOTHER way to get aroused.
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If people are using their bodies like they do in porn, then it's their choice. This has nothing to do with religion IMHO. And another thing, porn is not THE way to get aroused. It's ANOTHER way to get aroused.
If you are a christian then the Bible says its wrong so.... Sexual immorality.
I am not sure why you want to watch someone else "doing it" um....
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If people are using their bodies like they do in porn, then it's their choice. This has nothing to do with religion IMHO. And another thing, porn is not THE way to get aroused. It's ANOTHER way to get aroused.
If you are a christian then the Bible says its wrong so.... Sexual immorality.
Um,
sometimes, the "way they are doing it" in porn movies is the Missionary position.
I believe that that is biblically acceptable.
Otherwise, what we are seeing, here, is that "porn" isn't the same for everyone. To some, simple nudity may qualify as porn (and maybe even seeing someone wearing certain clothing), while to others, unless it is specifically illegal, it isn't porn.
Same regarding what one may think is immoral, I would think.
CGM, can you explain why you don't like porn without using religion as an example? I mean no disrespect of course, but I would like to keep this thread from veering towards religion.
And the reason people do like porn is because it's sexually arousing. Plain and simple. Where's the harm?
And the reason people do like porn is because it's sexually arousing. Plain and simple. Where's the harm?
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CGM, can you explain why you don't like porn without using religion as an example? I mean no disrespect of course, but I would like to keep this thread from veering towards religion.
Sure for many reasons.
Predators have killed countless women in porn clubs. Its very dangerous.
As far as watching it....
People can become addicted to it and like watching "it" rather than doing "it" with their spouse. It can ruin your life and porn ruins many many lives every year. Its one thing to watch it before doing "it" but when you just watch and watch and watch it you become addicted and it can seperate you and your spouse and not help the relationship. Infact it sure cant help a relationship.
Your bodies should be seen only by your spouse and not for others to lust over.
I just feel sorry for the people involved. I have heard stories of what they do so they can do "it" with many people on videos. Drugs and such that kill them or get them addicted to drugs. Messes up the porn stars life too.
It becomes just a job. The sex is no longer something intimate and special for you and your spouse or it can because you do it with so many people. I doubt many are married but it can happen.
Aids......Sickness and disease.
Most people dont think highly of porn stars so it ruins your reputation of all but the people who watch you.
Hope this is a good enough answer. There are a lot of jobs out there so....and much safer.
One more thing....
Unwanted pregnancy's.
You make a few good points CGM. For some people, it can become addicting, and it has ruined many relationships.
If watching porn is your thing, and no one is being harmed by it, I say 'why not' - go for it.
Personally I have found that if you have seen one, you have seen them all, so I find the blatant examples to be a complete turnoff.
I have also seen a couple of examples which were done in a tender and romantic way and were a pleasure to watch.
Each to their own. If you don't like it, don't watch it. On this issue the matter of morality is a personal one and I am not interested in a third party telling me what I should or should not do. A lot of couples can not agree on some sexual matters, so if one party turns to porn to satisfy an itch, SO WHAT; it could potentially even save a relationship.
Cheers
Personally I have found that if you have seen one, you have seen them all, so I find the blatant examples to be a complete turnoff.
I have also seen a couple of examples which were done in a tender and romantic way and were a pleasure to watch.
Each to their own. If you don't like it, don't watch it. On this issue the matter of morality is a personal one and I am not interested in a third party telling me what I should or should not do. A lot of couples can not agree on some sexual matters, so if one party turns to porn to satisfy an itch, SO WHAT; it could potentially even save a relationship.
Cheers
CGM i wish not to insult or offend you, but i see where your choice in religion has helped you form opinions for a life ( yours ) that indeed seems moral and just, so i would proffer to you that with your moral fibre perhaps this sort of debate cannot allow you to consider another's altered perspective ? I wish not to change that, but ask you to challenge yourself a little harder in the form of perhaps aggreeing that "porn" is to some not all it is to another.
the industry itself feeds a market, that market is boldly diverse, and has many consumers of many backgrounds with many levels of differing taste. it exists from the basic principles of supply and demand, and while it lacks enough stringent control in its distribution and availability, it is no more dangerous to society than tobacco or alcohol. each are killers in their own right, each have shadey backgrounds and checkered pasts, each have a grave impact on society, but each have a choice on participation at any of their own respective levels.
regarding porn adults make choices based on what they feel, what they need beyond that usually gets "justified" by human nature or the makeup of the persons moral fibre. to me the porn industry holds no appeal, sure i have seen plenty and yes there is content in my home, but i chose not to procure more. porn can be whatever the individual wishes it to be, an enticing prelude to put a little sparkle on a couples' night in, a release for an anxious teenager, a fantasy companion to a lonely person, or a way to view some of God's more beautiful creations without feeling guilt.
we all as adults know there is a seedy underbelly to porn, we have heard countless tales of ruined lives, we are aware it's an industry that does pose the questions of societal morality and illegality. yet we allow another to choose it or not, we maintain the basic rights of the individual and that is choice. the fact that drug use and porn are synonimous is a way to "spin it" and make it an evil, much in the same way "Rave Parties" are spun around to be considered as drug-havens, or Bars are branded as drunken pool halls. if we choose to do so we can buy a pack of cigarettes, pick up a bottle of tequila, go home and put on some porn, and then grab our partner for night time fling under the covers. that's a choice. Yet if we drank the whole bottle of tequila, and then went down the video store to get more porn, stopped in at the 7/11 for more cigarettes, and crashed our car into a pole on the way home and died is that the fault of the porn ?
Is a drug addict desperate to earn money that they turn to porn film making in control of that choice ? yes they could rob your house instead. is a jilted lover finding their private images on the internet allowed to blame porn for the desire to make such images ? no they chose to do that themselves, they chose to create their own porn. is promiscuity an act bourne of porn and its depictions ? no that's a choice by an individual to engage intimately with another.
porn is not bad, it's humans doing what humans do, if anything it's a depiction of society and all it's weird and wonderful characters. it has choice, as does the viewer, and the consumer, labelling porn as an instigator of bad deeds is as redunant as labelling a gun for being a murder weapon and not the person holding it. if people to choose to like porn then they have chosen for their reasons, it doesn't make the porn bad or wrong, it makes it a pure choice of material, and that to me is ok
the industry itself feeds a market, that market is boldly diverse, and has many consumers of many backgrounds with many levels of differing taste. it exists from the basic principles of supply and demand, and while it lacks enough stringent control in its distribution and availability, it is no more dangerous to society than tobacco or alcohol. each are killers in their own right, each have shadey backgrounds and checkered pasts, each have a grave impact on society, but each have a choice on participation at any of their own respective levels.
regarding porn adults make choices based on what they feel, what they need beyond that usually gets "justified" by human nature or the makeup of the persons moral fibre. to me the porn industry holds no appeal, sure i have seen plenty and yes there is content in my home, but i chose not to procure more. porn can be whatever the individual wishes it to be, an enticing prelude to put a little sparkle on a couples' night in, a release for an anxious teenager, a fantasy companion to a lonely person, or a way to view some of God's more beautiful creations without feeling guilt.
we all as adults know there is a seedy underbelly to porn, we have heard countless tales of ruined lives, we are aware it's an industry that does pose the questions of societal morality and illegality. yet we allow another to choose it or not, we maintain the basic rights of the individual and that is choice. the fact that drug use and porn are synonimous is a way to "spin it" and make it an evil, much in the same way "Rave Parties" are spun around to be considered as drug-havens, or Bars are branded as drunken pool halls. if we choose to do so we can buy a pack of cigarettes, pick up a bottle of tequila, go home and put on some porn, and then grab our partner for night time fling under the covers. that's a choice. Yet if we drank the whole bottle of tequila, and then went down the video store to get more porn, stopped in at the 7/11 for more cigarettes, and crashed our car into a pole on the way home and died is that the fault of the porn ?
Is a drug addict desperate to earn money that they turn to porn film making in control of that choice ? yes they could rob your house instead. is a jilted lover finding their private images on the internet allowed to blame porn for the desire to make such images ? no they chose to do that themselves, they chose to create their own porn. is promiscuity an act bourne of porn and its depictions ? no that's a choice by an individual to engage intimately with another.
porn is not bad, it's humans doing what humans do, if anything it's a depiction of society and all it's weird and wonderful characters. it has choice, as does the viewer, and the consumer, labelling porn as an instigator of bad deeds is as redunant as labelling a gun for being a murder weapon and not the person holding it. if people to choose to like porn then they have chosen for their reasons, it doesn't make the porn bad or wrong, it makes it a pure choice of material, and that to me is ok
Most Old School (not the internet ones) Porn Companies require testing for STDs now before filming begins.
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CGM i wish not to insult or offend you, but i see where your choice in religion has helped you form opinions for a life ( yours ) that indeed seems moral and just, so i would proffer to you that with your moral fibre perhaps this sort of debate cannot allow you to consider another's altered perspective ? I wish not to change that, but ask you to challenge yourself a little harder in the form of perhaps aggreeing that "porn" is to some not all it is to another.
I am not sure what you mean.
Porn is Porn. What is porn to you? Porn is a lust of the flesh. Very few watch porn to get it going with their spouse. Its for their own pleasure.
This is how I believe by my religion.
http://www.gotquestions.org/pornography-Bible.html
QUOTE(BlackSpyder @ Jul 8 2007, 11:20 PM)
Most Old School (not the internet ones) Porn Companies require testing for STDs now before filming begins.
I googled looking for information on the porn industry and STD testing and couldn't find anything that indicates regular testing, could you please provide me with a link to your source as I am curious to read about this myself.
One thing that I did find was that porn stars tend to date within their own community which reduces the chance of spreading STDs.
Cowsgonemad, what is a porn club?
Web definitions for Pornographyany
sexually explicit writing and/or picture intended to arouse sexual desire.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&cli...on&ct=title
Web definitions for Pornographyany
sexually explicit writing and/or picture intended to arouse sexual desire.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&cli...on&ct=title
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Cowsgonemad, what is a porn club?
Strip club. Are we talking just picture and movies or the whole life of porn from the people who make it to the actors?
Does anyone know what Charles Manson attributed his killings to? Where the mentality started?
dc3 It was a copy of AVN (Adult Video News) a couple of years ago (2002-2003).
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Does anyone know what Charles Manson attributed his killings to? Where the mentality started?
Was it porn?
Its so sad when a culture starts to try and make porn seem like nothing. So sad...
Porn just leads to more and more problems.
As the title asks Pornography Immoral=yes
Porn is just pictures and pictures can't hurt anybody. The only time it causes problems is when one of the parties doesn't like it. If both parties don't mind porn, then it causes no problems. You can't condemn something simply because it's capable of causing problems; many things can cause problems in a relationship. Such as money is the number one reason for fights in a relationship, it doesn't mean money is bad and everybody should have nothing to do with it.
Porn in moderation is ok. When it becomes addicting, it's a bad thing. Many people enjoy porn without it having any negative effects on their lives.
Porn in moderation is ok. When it becomes addicting, it's a bad thing. Many people enjoy porn without it having any negative effects on their lives.
Solaris...I appreciate your opinion. Do you have a good example of someone you know personally that has enjoyed porn for several years without any negative impacts?
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Porn is just pictures and pictures can't hurt anybody.
If you are blind....
Of course they hurt people. They destroy lives. Porn is very bad.
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When it becomes addicting, it's a bad thing.
Most people who smoke cocaine once get addicted. Porn is said to be 10 times more addicting than cocaine.
QUOTE(jwinathome @ Jul 9 2007, 08:41 PM)
Solaris...I appreciate your opinion. Do you have a good example of someone you know personally that has enjoyed porn for several years without any negative impacts?
Me, my friends, and my co-workers. We pass emails back and forth with porn in them. Most of the time its funny stuff or crazy stuff.
*makes note to join BlackSpyder's email list*
But, seriously -
based on the definition of porn that we got earlier,
the levels of porn vary, as does how it may effect each of us.
What is percieved as immoral, or bad, to one, may not even be mildly pornographic to someone else.
Anything to excess may be bad, however.
But, seriously -
based on the definition of porn that we got earlier,
the levels of porn vary, as does how it may effect each of us.
What is percieved as immoral, or bad, to one, may not even be mildly pornographic to someone else.
Anything to excess may be bad, however.
I've been looking at porn for years and it hasn't done anything bad to me. If anything, I'm a kinder, nicer person with more social graces than ever.
Porn doesn't hurt people and nor does it destroy lives. The only thing it's capable of doing is embarrassing someone to their friends or lover and the possible consequences due to it being a social taboo. And that's all it is, a taboo. Most taboos don't hurt people and are merely embarrassing or weird.
Porn doesn't hurt people and nor does it destroy lives. The only thing it's capable of doing is embarrassing someone to their friends or lover and the possible consequences due to it being a social taboo. And that's all it is, a taboo. Most taboos don't hurt people and are merely embarrassing or weird.
name='solaris32' date='Jul 10 2007, 01:13 AM' post='565517'
Solaris, if this is too persona, then by all means don't answer.
Are you married or dating anyone?
Solaris, if this is too persona, then by all means don't answer.
Are you married or dating anyone?
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What is percieved as immoral, or bad, to one, may not even be mildly pornographic to someone else.
Doesnt make it right? Some murderers dont consider killing wrong does that make them right?
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Porn doesn't hurt people and nor does it destroy lives.
Trust me it does....Many many cases have been shown of this you just have no clue what you are messing with.
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What is percieved as immoral, or bad, to one, may not even be mildly pornographic to someone else.
Doesnt make it right? Some murderers dont consider killing wrong does that make them right?
Doesn't make it wrong, either.
Your views are a product of your upbringing, and your religious beliefs.
Others, with different beliefs, may not see it the same way.
That doesn't make them wrong, just different.
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Porn doesn't hurt people and nor does it destroy lives.
Trust me it does....Many many cases have been shown of this you just have no clue what you are messing with.
References?
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What is percieved as immoral, or bad, to one, may not even be mildly pornographic to someone else.
Doesnt make it right?
Nor does it make it wrong, either. It does show that it is a matter of perspective though.
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Some murderers dont consider killing wrong does that make them right?
Maybe it's just me, but I don't think murderers fall into the "norm".
The overwhelming majority of people may find something sexually stimulating that another person would label pornographic, though.
If you can show me where the overwhelming majority of people find murder acceptable in a situation where another person would label it wrong, then we can discuss the similarities between the examples.
If you are in a happy relationship,or are happily Married,I really can't see the need to watch these Videos.
If you are single and want to visually rape these actors to get your rocks off quicker,it's your choice.
I have watched a few of these Videos as most people have, years ago and found after a couple, found them quite boring.
If it is Legal and not against your beliefs,then it's your choice. Your Marriage shouldn't need this crap.
If you are single and want to visually rape these actors to get your rocks off quicker,it's your choice.
I have watched a few of these Videos as most people have, years ago and found after a couple, found them quite boring.
If it is Legal and not against your beliefs,then it's your choice. Your Marriage shouldn't need this crap.
DSTM, I couldn't agree more. Well said.
My wife and I are more than satisfied with each other, and the thought of having porn as a hobby or any form of entertainment doesn't even register.
My wife and I are more than satisfied with each other, and the thought of having porn as a hobby or any form of entertainment doesn't even register.
IMO, porn falls into the same category as so many societal choices. If you don't enjoy, don't pursue it. Even so, those who choose not to enjoy it have no right to condemn those who do.
However, sex is a real and tangible facet of life; one that we all hopefully encounter at some point.
It can be beautiful, it can be hilarious, and it can be messy.
Yes, people have been victimized by the industry. This is sad. People have been victimized by the medical industry as well.
Many, many people get exactly what they want out of porn, either from participating in it or viewing it.
*I too would like to be added to BlackSpyder's email list.*
However, sex is a real and tangible facet of life; one that we all hopefully encounter at some point.
It can be beautiful, it can be hilarious, and it can be messy. Yes, people have been victimized by the industry. This is sad. People have been victimized by the medical industry as well.
Many, many people get exactly what they want out of porn, either from participating in it or viewing it.
*I too would like to be added to BlackSpyder's email list.*
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Doesn't make it wrong, either.
Your views are a product of your upbringing, and your religious beliefs.
Others, with different beliefs, may not see it the same way.
That doesn't make them wrong, just different.
Your views are a product of your upbringing, and your religious beliefs.
Others, with different beliefs, may not see it the same way.
That doesn't make them wrong, just different.
What I am trying to get at is that just because someone thinks something is right does not make it right.
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References?
I am sure on the internet you can find stories. I have been told many by family and friends of lives ruined by porn addictions. You know it happens dont you?
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Your Marriage shouldn't need this crap.
Dr. Phil with hair(what my mom says about me) here saying "If it does you need help" ha ha
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QUOTE(jwinathome @ Jul 9 2007, 08:41 PM)
Solaris...I appreciate your opinion. Do you have a good example of someone you know personally that has enjoyed porn for several years without any negative impacts?
Me, my friends, and my co-workers. We pass emails back and forth with porn in them. Most of the time its funny stuff or crazy stuff.
We have the same exact thing going on at work its all for fun and jokes....
It's true if you take porn in moderation its fine... once you start an obsession though it has a potential to ruin your life and hurt those around you...(My friend is getting to the point that everytime he is down south of our town (cause its banned in our town *the shops*) he would stop out there and grab some more ... he is to the point where it affects his social skills...he is stuck in a fantasy .. he used to be a laidback guy always popular with the girls but he took porn to far and now he can't even go out with girls without being demanding and sexually advancing (Which is bad you cannot argue its not) which has made him go from a straight up player to pretty much a pathetic idiot ... (yes he is still my friend but he needs to snap outa it)...
Man hand cramp...
So like I was saying and agreeing with many others in this argument i have nothing against porn (certain parts of certain porn i do have a problem with religion wise ) and if kept between consenting adults should be allowed and not questioned!
~Jake
BTW it all started because he broke up with this real snobbish girl ...
Long story but u should be able to get the gist of it...
Long story but u should be able to get the gist of it...
Jake, I certainly appreciate your position and example....but come on man!!! Shouldn't be questioned?
That's what makes it a great topic.
That's what makes it a great topic.
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