QUOTE(jwinathome @ Jun 5 2007, 02:04 PM)

Do you ever punish your kids or animals? Why?
Yes, I do. But I think you are making some fundamental assumptions in the relation of the two.
I am in the form of a physical being, present to discipline them. I do not require that they 'decipher' what I am punishing them for and what I am rewarding them for. Based on faith, you (for instance) believe that the Word of God is manifest in the Bible. However, others may believe that the Word of God is in the Torah. There no concrete evidence to laud one over the other, enter faith. My puppy doesn't have to place faith in the assumption that what I am punishing them for is wrong and not to be repeated. I am right there, manifest in anger, to show her exactly what she did wrong and punish her accordingly, physically.
We, as Human Beings, are given no such luxury. What is wrong by one individual's faith may be condoned by another.
Thus, your assumptions include:
That God takes an active role in our lives and our upbringing. If so, then God directs through consequences in our lives. More like Karma, which is not spoken of in the Bible (to my knowledge).
That God's rules are explicit and do not necessitate faith. Which would contradict a major facet of religion.
That there is only one source for the wishes of God for Man. As I am the source for the punishment of my puppy.
Therefore, it is becoming increasingly difficult for me to believe in a God of Love who is willing to punish us because somewhere along the line, we missed a little bit of context. Furthermore, the idea that I should be forced to live in fear of what lies beyond mortality because of the selfish choice made by two so long ago is laughable; just as I would not shoot you after my house was broken into because you were my neighbor and 'let it happen'.
If God is
Benevolent, then in believing and adhering or disbelieving and disobeying, I am incapable of bringing about
any Evil from God. And I would certainly view an eternity of punishment as Evil.
Regards,
bg04