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The present research demonstrated that in both a correlational investigation using self-reports of real-world aggressive behaviors and an experimental investigation using a standard, objective laboratory measure of aggression, violent video game play was positively related to increases in aggressive behavior. In the laboratory, college students who played a violent video game behaved more aggressively toward an opponent than did students who had played a nonviolent video game. Outside the laboratory, students who reported playing more violent video games over a period of years also engaged in more aggressive behavior in their own lives. Both types of studies–correlational—real delinquent behaviors and experimental—laboratory aggressive behaviors have their strengths and weaknesses. The convergence of findings across such disparate methods lends considerable strength to the main hypothesis that exposure to violent video games can increase aggressive behavior.
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Source http://mentalhealth.about.com/cs/familyres...ameviolence.htm

Quote from previous link.

You can read what you like into the study. But this tiny little quote goes to prove that females are more prone to violence than males, as the trial were using violent and non-violent games. I dont have time to google right now as I'm about to go on a kill rampage(F.E.A.R) how many females have gone on murder rampages. From what I seen on the TV recently it appears that they are all male, not female like the study would seem to suggest.

Also from the link above, there is another link to more recent reaserch.

With Respect of your opinions,the TV is not the usual place to do research from.
Many Females are Murderers.You will find some here,I'm sure.
http://www.crimelibrary.com/

Was not research, It was to do with recent gun rampages in schools, colleges, universities. And If i recall from watching the "NEWS" on TV............

You're joking, right?

I believe he was using sarcasm in that comment ;)

I believe he wasn't using anything.

If you blame video games for violence, then I would hate to see what people in NYC would blame for violence (in a world without violence). Or any populated city, where raped, murder, and other felonious activities are higher than many other rural areas.

I believe voilent Video Games must have some affect on teen's undeveloped minds.A brain is not fully developed in most People till around 25 yrs of age.Here today on the News 41 Teachers in Sydney alone have gone to Court this Year and taken out Apprehended Violence Orders against their Students and Parents.One 15 yr old student grabbed his Female Teacher around the Throat and she had to go to Hospital.This sort of Behaviour was unheard of 20 yrs ago.I am not saying Violent Video Games are the sole cause,but I strongly believe it is part of the cause and leads to violent aggression in some cases.From what I have read about tests been carried out.When you get young Thugs stomping on someones face and laughing all the time they are carrying out these violent acts,then it doesn't take Einstein to work out something is wrong.

But what is wrong isn't always video games. Something in my generation and younger is happening. Either technology is making us too lazy and removing all type of discipline. Or either the parents of the generation before us, (after the baby boomers) is loosing parental guidance to their kids. I don't know the answers. But something in my generation and younger is out of wack. IMHO I believe that children need discipline and a strong work ethic to be raised properly. If they don't have either one, they will most likely end up like a "thug."

I think it has a lot to do with the parents. Think about it: the minute you are born, your life and how it's going to be lived is all up to your parents. No matter what background someone hails from, whether race or social standing, the way your parents teach a child and how to live has a great effect on them. Technology and the media has been a great influence on teens nowadays, letting them think that some things are ok to get away with. Such as: "Oh, maybe if Paris can get out of prison maybe I can too." "Maybe if she can dress slutty maybe I can too." Just yesterday, I saw a group of 4 teenagers, who couldn't be older then 13, all dressed inappropriately. Honestly, parents need to step it up.

I was,and still am, scared $&@^less of my father. He would never do anything malicious to me, but I fear and respect him. And yes, it has gotten physical between us. Nothing brutal, nothing serious, but enough to make the point that he was the 'Alpha'. I saw no problem with it then, and I see none with it now. The 15 year-old who strangled the female teacher?! First-off, call me old-fashioned, but you never harm a female unless you have absolutely no other recourse. Secondly, that kid should have been put in a room with another male (preferably one who has a connection with the injured teacher) and all the windows closed! Some folks just have a beating coming to them.

I agree with yano. Something is out of sorts with our generation.

IMO, a lot of it comes down to personal responsibility. Regardless of the stimulus, our reaction is on us. We make a choice to become violent. There are so many things in this world promoting violence (truth be told, not all bad); nature, sports, video-games, TV. But our decision to respond is what makes us human, how we respond distinguishes us.

You can see the different generations and how each generation is unique in the way they raise their children...disturbingly...

Our generation is

- forgetting how to spell things (google, spellchecker etc...)

- becoming to free (too many freedoms at such a young age)

- not enough responsibility (compared to back in the day)

- not enough discipline (compard to back in the good ol' day of school and the paddle)

- too stupid and intelligent for their own good (some kids in our generation are either too smart for their own good, or too stupid for their existance, you can't barely find anyone in the middle that is well rounded).

- lack of pride (no one in my generations actually takes pride on anything, not grades, cars, significant other, nothing!)

- lack of motivation (everyone is told they can be what ever they want, but once out int the real world finds that Uncle Sam rips you a new one in 3 different ways*)

- lack of skills (back in the good ol' day you had a part time job when you were younger (about 16-18). you actually kept busy after school or you helped your father on building something. You knew how to actually use tools. Like a ratchet, cross-blade screwdriver, drill-driver, circular-saw, reciprocating saw... ok i don't know if they had all those back then...)

- lack of respect for others (very few in my generation actually respect themselves, parents, family, and even authority. Just because you don't believe in the current system, president, or congressional leaders, doesn't mean you disrespect them).

- lack of compassion (very few, very few people in my generation actually show, or even have a sense of compassion for their friends or even their girlfriend or boyfriend; they will actually respect them, show their companionism for them)

- too creative (our generation was brought up to be TOO creative. If you are too creative then you begin to forget about certain required boundries such as your parents, government, local authorities, cops, adults in general)

- the hands off approach? ... (ok this may seem radical but look at most parents today. they are doing good (not great, but good) they have some respect, they are some-what disciplined. They know what they are doing. Our parents grew up with spanking, some with the belt, or even more... however, they turned out fine (except for the wife-beaters and child-beaters). Now today heaven forbid you lay a finger on a child! You can't discipline anyone in today's time. Do you honestly think a child is going to learn by taking away the computer? can't go to their friends? They'll just adapt to not doing said activities. A good spanking instilled fear of committing a bad activity. I personally grew up with the belt, I hated it at the time, but now that I look back at it. I actually turned out decent. I have good mannerism (compared to many other students my age), good respect, not-so-disciplined (self disciplined) but I don't smoke, don't do drugs, never had sex, never done anything outrageously wrong except download a few songs on kazza back in the day.

- lack of mannerism -- whatever happened to holding the door open for others? (especially woman, your mom, your sister, your girlfriend, your sister, any woman.) I was grown up to hold the door for them. Heck, I notice myself today holding the door open for others, even if it is a guy, I usually grab the door and let others through first. I'm just nice when it comes to that. I am in no hurry, we are all going to the same place...

- lack of self-conscious -- whatever happened to make one's own decisions? Now today you see most kids trying to "fit it," with radical groups... back in the our parents (if they weren't already) tried to fit in with the jocks, the cheerleaders or whatever the cool group was back then. They might have done some-drugs back then (during the vietname war etc...) however, they weren't out planning a school shooting, or finding ways to kill other students...

- lack of self-respect or too much of it -- something I have noticed with my generation is that many people don't care how they look or they care too much. Like the jocks and cheerleaders in my school always did makeup in class, always wore revealing clothes etc... (and it barely fit the school guidelines)^ Then you have the kids who don't care what they look like! Even though they have some money to help that. (ok, for the financially hurting; you have to make with you have), but as for the ones you know who have money, they could help the way they look

- lack of appreciation of oneself? aka: finding a "fad" -- ok what is up with this gothic look all of suden? geez... some girls (and even guys) walk around looking like the undead from the medieval times.. Quit trying to find a "fad" you think that fits. Find yourself!! Read "My Reality Check Bounced ~ Jason Ryan Dorsey" if you need help.

- maturity -- what happened to actually acting your own age?Just because you liked picking on your sister when you were eight, or riding the dog around the house like a horse, doesn't mean you do that stuff when you're 12...


That's pretty much all I got at the moment, but from what I can tell you is that our generation is strongly on the wrong direction. I hope that whoever becomes the president from my generation isn't a nut-case, that was picked on severally in school.

I can't wait until I have kids. I'm going to make sure they get better treatment and are brought up a little more like my parents (only to a certain degree). I don't want to have wild-children, or the brainwashed kids. I want my children to live a well-respected life, and make choices for themselves (like their religion, skills, activities, interests etc.. I am not going to force that upon my children.


^which is another thing today, girls are showing way too much? what is up with this? men have been excited, and always interested in woman since the beginning of time...

*Property tax, income tax, AND SALES TAX. What else do they have left to tax? Oh I forgot the INTERNET... next thing you know they will be a living tax. If you live in this country you must pay $0.01 for every kilogram you displace out of our country. You are wasting valuable space in our society!!!

Wow! Your parents could 'clone' you and make a fortune, Yano! Well done, indeed!

What about America's Army? It's a violent video game developed by the USA army to get youngster to join the army. Would this be considered supporting school shootings?

You can't blame video games for violence provoked by youngsters. It encourages them to do it, but doesn't make them do it. This is the same as saying a gun/news report/gas in the car made a bank robber rob a bank.

Precisely.

Your right about kids being too free nowadays. So many of them are handed privileges that I would have never had. I'm only 19 years old, so this generation gap isn't remotely large. I can see it in my 11 year old sister.

Since I'm "old" enough, I can now finally have a cell phone. I got a cell phone at age 18, and now my younger sister is demanding for one along with an iPod.

They're too spoiled.

This, along with things like technology is MORE then sufficient to rot a child, and perhaps shift them in the 'wrong' direction.

I am also in total agreement. I am 25, so I remember being a pre-pub in a world with no cell phones. Our first computer was an Acer POS and it cost $1500. I felt so fortunate to be able to have that kind of toy.

Nowadays, kids think they are entitled to such privileges.

I also agree that children are losing grasp of proper use of the spoken and written word. The phenomenon that really irks me is the need for all younger people to inject 'like' and 'you know' into every sentence. No, I don't know, that is why you are telling me!

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that too many affluent Americans are not requiring their children to work. I have worked since I was 15. The workplace is the ultimate forum for learning proper manners, otherwise you will be out on your @$$.

The future looks bright, but also quite scary. I hope these younger generations get their act together before we really start churning out our own kids!

From what I've seen, work ethic is a huge problem in this generation. The overall attitude seems to be "get as much as possible with the least amount of work". A lot of the students I went to school with were content with just scraping by. There was never really any drive to succeed. In terms of work, most of the people I know who are my age (~20) work for money rather than for life experience. These are people who aren't in dire straits that they absolutely need that money to live. Instead, it's a matter of them not wanting to leave theor zone of comfort.

At a young age,I am convinced Teenagers can become desensitised,by continually watching violent and gruesome Videos or Video Games. Same as expecting a teenager to make educated decisions when Driving a Car for example.Their Brain at these young ages are not fully developed,and Their Parents should not allow them to watch just any Video or Game unsupervised.When I see on the News, groups of teenagers kicking an old Man to Death,and all the time Laughing,I blame the Parents,not the Teenager.The well adjusted Teenagers, I have found are the ones with responsible Parents.When the Family unit breaks down, society suffers as a result.IMHO.

So who do you think is at fault? The violence in media, or the parents? I think it's the parents. I love violent video games and other media (not music), yet I have almost mastered my negative emotions since a young age. Many people I know love these types of media and are actually very nice and kind. I do agree that not everyone should watch this kind of media. Mature content requires a mature handling of emotions. Those kids who beat an old man and laugh while doing it are sick in the head from the beginning; they didn't magically transform into what they were merely because they watched violent media.

It depends on the kid and how s/he was raised. All it roots down to the parents. My parents *knew* I can play violent games, watch violent movies etc since a small kid and have done so. Never been a problem and has never influenced my "real life" emotions just like solaris said. No one can just snap in doing terrible, terrible things just by watching something that has violence in it.

More likely would just show them how bad it is. If someone goes on killing people then it's not because of violent games, thats damn sure.

The TS mentioned the virginia tech shootings. Just from watching the little footage of the tapes he sent in, I think it is safe to say that he had problems even if he never picked up a rated M title.

AHHEEEMMM!!!! I HIGHLY resent that post!!

I am the complete opposite of everything you've said in that post (except maybe the self-confidence thing, but that's just me, I'm naturally shy). Yes, there a few of the people in our generation who are pompus, insensitive, jerks, but that's only the minority. You may not think so, but they are the minority, the minority that the MEDIA (keep that in your mind) focuses on and makes it seem like the ENTIRE generation is like that.

As for video games and violence, this falls into my firm beleif of the user's fault, not the makers. The reason there are ratings is to protect little kids (say, 13 and under) from seeing things they're not old enough for (not so much violence, but more sex, but that's another topic all together and I won't get into that). My question is, does this stop the parents from buying it for their 11 or 10 year old? Absolutley not! I know so many of my friends younger siblings you play Halo (which is rated Mature, which is 18+ years only) or Conker (also rated Mature) or even games that are rated Teen (13+ years old) and they're only 10 or 11!! It all boils down to the parents. I was fortunate enough to have 'older' parents (from the 50's, 60's) who have more morals, manners and respect than the parents who are in their 30's who just get things for their kids so they shutup. Also as stated before, these video games that have a purpose (ie, Halo, in which you have to save the human race from destruction, or BF2142, in which you have to stop enemy forces of the opposing alliance from taking over the world) are less likely to influence a fragile mind than one where you just kill people or things because they're there. The reason it seems like its the video game's fault is because the MEDIA says so because the parents don't want to admit they're wrong.

To reiterate, it's the parent's fault because they let their child play a game that could potentially cause him/her to have pycological problems if they know (which they should if they're good parents) that their child is at a stage in life where he/she is very influencial. I also blame the media for being incredibly over-exagerated.

Now that I'm a little aggrivated because i HATE when people assume that the ENTIRE generation is a bunch of disrespectful a**holes (nothing personal, yano, i just don't like it) i'm going to go play a nice round of BF2142 to RELEIVE my anger on the opposing PAC alliance.

Regards,
TheYoda

wow I forgot about this topic... Sorry I didn't get to respond.

I play any war games escpecially WWII. And while I do not necessarily consider the violence fun but I isn't not like I dislike it, I mean who doesn't dislike Nazis?

I cut down your quote to save room on the forums, but I understand where you are coming from. The Media does betray most of our generation like this, and most of it isn't totally true, however, if you observe student in high school or youngsters (16-19) in the work force, you would notice what I mean. I think most of the previous posts have come to the conclusion that the lack of work ethic and discipline has caused many problems with our generation. Look at how many 14-18 girls/boys are being abused through myspace! and such.

I do believe my "Our generation is..." speaks for our entire generation, but for the most of it. There are a few good well-done citizens of society who weave there way through the cracks, but if you go onto myspace and see some of the pages of who is in our generation you would be surprised. I'm not talking about people you know in your class, but random people about our age.



I agree and disagree. I agree with the fact that parents are a big influence on a child, but only up to a certain point. My "family unit" broke down when I was 14. My parents have been separated since. I grew up fine and dandy up to then, and I still grew up fine and dandy. I still see my dad, but occasionally, and I try my best to see him on occasion. I think after a certain point the parents can only do so much.

However, I do agree that what content the parents restrict depends on what kind of person you come to be. My dad didn't really filter violence after I turned 10, but he filtered all the sex scenes and everything like that when we watched movies. The only thing I ever saw that was remotely close to sex was The Titanic; when I was 12 (on tape). My dad really didn't care about the violence in video games. I played Duck Hunt on the original Nintendo, played BF1942 since age of 13. I didn't really play any violence video games up until my parents separated, however, you don't see me running around shooting people thinking it's ok to be violent to an innocent person.

In conclusion, from all the other posts mentioned here, I think it all boils down to the following factors:

• parents
• games played between ages of 1-10
• work ethic
• discipline

Exactly. I have watched violent films and played games; as for the sex part of them I've never watched any of it with parents approval or explicit permission.

I for one, love show wrestling games (the real thing is just show and acting, but the game is very "real"). Which I have played since a small kid. Even when it is just plain simple game of beating the other to the point of being half dead, I've ALWAYS recognized the boundaries of games and real life. I don't like anything that has to do with violence in real life unless it's something professional just like wrestling or boxing.

Saying games are the cause of evils such as school shootings would be saying that having car crash scenes in movies encourage drivers to blow up their vehicles by ramming into eachother. You can't blame anyone but the kid and the parents, the parents need to spend time with their kid, atleast enough time to teach right and worng, god and bad, real not real. People need a scape goat when things happen, and of course with school shootings most of the shooters commit suicide, so the parents are left thinking, and the public needs to find out why suc a good kid the parents claim him/her to be went wrong. Thats just the fact, people need a scape goat when things go wrong, video games are up there with gun control.

If your younger than 10 you should be outside playing, not inside playing games, parents need to teach children modesty, and responsibility, adn not leave it up to their kid to figure it out or decide if they want to be responsible. As for the comment about our generation, you're probably getting that form the emdia because I for one know I have a great work ethic, I'm modest, and like the feeling of doing hard work and see someone go home with a smile on their face

I shortened it as well, but I understand your point and I guess just the little niche that I fit into in my high school (which, FWIW, has over 4,000 students in it) doesn't see all the lazy people and the disrespectful jerks. I know there out there, I see them in the hallways with their slutty girls (which is another topic entirely, which once again, I won't get into). I'm a band geek, so I'm always around my marching band friend and I guess being in marching band you absolutley can't be lazy or disrespectful, so I guess I'm used to the 150 kids in the band and 500 or so that I see elsewhere everyday that aren't all that bad. I'm sure there are more good ones than I see, but I'm sure there are just as many bad ones. All of this, once again as stated MANY times, boils down to the parents.

As you said, yano, it's all about the parents, because the other 3 catagories mentioned are highly influenced by the parents.

Regards,
TheYoda

Now what about this seeing that we all agree that the parents are to blame. What about the adults who commit such a violent crime? Could you say there parents still influenced them or maybe there children influenced them? Just a thought.

Well as a teenager and gamer myself I can tel you its a mater of depicting fantasy from reality I myself use it as a form of stress relive sure i could punch my sister in the face for stealing my wallet or take it out on some fictional digital character in a fictional digital world and for those who have young children or kids who cant properly distinguish fantasy from reality the Entertainment software rating board (ESRB) and the ratings system is in place.