hi ppl...a few days a go i reistalled windows 98 on this hard drive.since i have had graphic problems....should i have more than 16 bit? if so well thats i have...so do i now need to install the right drivers now?im guessing so after researching this problem for days.
here is the report from everest to hopfully help you to help me.thanks inadvance for your time.oz






Operating System System Model
Windows 98 SE (build 4.10.2222) Enclosure Type: Desktop
Processor a Main Circuit Board b
800 megahertz Intel Pentium III
32 kilobyte primary memory cache
256 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: Acer Laboratories Inc. ALi 1631 1.0
Bus Clock: 133 megahertz
BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. 62710 07/15/97
Drives Memory Modules c,d
4.30 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
3.73 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

LG CD-ROM CRD-8521B
Generic floppy disk drive (3.5")

Generic IDE hard disk drive (4.30 GB) -- drive 0, No SMART Driver 112 Megabytes Installed Memory

Slot '0' is Empty
Slot '1' has 128 MB
Slot '2' is Empty
Local Drive Volumes

c: (FAT32 on drive 0) 4.30 GB 3.73 GB free

Network Drives
None detected
Users (mouse over user name for details) Printers
No details available None detected
Controllers Display
Standard Floppy Disk Controller
ALi M5229 PCI Bus Master IDE Controller
Primary IDE controller (dual fifo)
Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo) Standard PCI Graphics Adapter (VGA) [Display adapter]
LEO 15.2 [Monitor] (15.2"vis, December 1999)
Bus Adapters Multimedia
ALi PCI to USB Open Host Controller None detected
Communications Other Devices
Standard Modem
V92 Analog PnP Modem
Network Card MAC Address: 00:00:00:00:00:00 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard
USB Root Hub
Virus Protection [Back to Top]
No details available

16-bit colour is fine unless you are doing photo editing and you are really picky about the colours being as accurate as possible for printing comparison.

Whether or not you should be getting a higher colour-depth is not just dependant on the driver, it also depends how much video memory your graphics card has, and how high you want the resolution to be.

The next step up from 16-bit colour is 32-bit colour (also called tru-colour in Windows) but you will never get that if your video card has less than 32MB of video memory without having an unsuitably low resolution setting which makes everything too big on the display.

However, it seems from your info that the graphics card is using the standard Microsoft VGA driver which, on Windows 98, gives you only 16 colours if I recall. That's 16 colours, not 16-bit which gives you many thousands of colours. So maybe you mean "16 colours" not 16-bit?

16-colours is definitely caused by having the wrong driver, since even a basic card (with the right driver) can output more colours than that.

so i need a driver...? any chance of anyone knowing where and wich one is the one i need ? im not having much luck and its not from lack of trying ...im not being lazy but infact using you guys as a 2nd to last choice ....going to a pc shop/binning this horrible pc lol.thanks ppl.oz.

What is the make of the graphics card on the system?

i dont think there is a card as such....its apart of the motherboard as far as i know....they only details i have are the ones abouve in the everest log.oz.

Go to device manager (You can open Device Manager by double-clicking on the System icon in Control Panel, and choosing the Device Manager tab. It is also accessible by right-clicking on My Computer, selecting Properties, and selecting the Device Manager tab.) select dispaly adaptors, post back what you see.

standard pci graphics adaptor (vga)
standard display types
hardware version : 032
this device is working properly


hope thats what you need .oz.

Sorry, oz for not getting back. had to have a sleep. Terrible sick-headache.
Anyway, yes it appears you need a proper driver for the on-board video controller. The "Standard VGA" is a generic one which Windows uses in the absence of the manufacturers driver, to ensure that you get something on the display. But it can't utilise the full capabilities of the controller. The proper driver would show the makers name in Device Manager.

Using the motherboard details from your info I will try to help you further, unless someone else beats me to it!

horrible thing sleep....yea i needed some too ....thank you very much for your help...its coffee time for me..good luck with the driver searching...i'll see you when your on next.thank you .oz.

ok people i still need some help...i have the right drivers(we hope) i install them ....restart thr pc the it asks me to find the driver from a list or from a place on the pc and this is where my problems is....i cant seem to get that part right......any help?thanks .oz.

Hello,

where did you download the drivers from? what make af graphics processor do you have?

motherboard- acer laboratoriesinc
model - ali 1631
version - 1.0

chipset vendor- acer labs(ali/uli)
model-ali m1621 aladdin pro 2 apg system controller
south bridge- ali m1533

http://www.pcchipsusa.com/download-mainframe.asp

is where i got thr ALI 1647 Drivers for on-board video.

is this what i need i have i gone way of the track?....have i provided the right info? getting sleepy here so hope i answered you properly.oz.

Thats what I was looking for, it looks like you downloaded incopatible drivers for the chipset. no worries though, here are 2 links to the drivers that should work.

http://members.driverguide.com/driver/deta...p?driverid=4488
http://www.softlookup.com/driveauthor.asp?id=2515

Normally, the manufacture in this case acer or ali, should have the drivers on their webpage, but for some reason they didn't do them. the files should download as a .exe which will do the work for you.

Hope this helps

thank you for getting back to me....well im dowloading the one from drver guide....it looked familiar and when i pressesed to dowload it says it already exests on tour desck top.....i replaced it anyway.
the one on softlookup....i cant understand how to download it? i see M1631, ver 1.40 with the plus sign net to it ..pressed on that ???? what am i missing?
i guess while i wait for your reply i'll try and install the file from driver guide again...but i recon i'll have the same problem at start up and not being able to add it....the pc just keps puting the standard microsoft file in ...probly cause i cant find this driver in the list it provides at start up ....it might be easyer if it was on a cd wich i cant make cause the file isnt/ i cant acsess it from where i put it ...the desk top....should i be downloading it else where ?...ok i'll be back soo to let you know what i find after i try this file out again.thanks.oz.

ok...i installed that file ...restarted the pc.....moved from infront of the screen and came back and by the looks of it it loaded it without asking me to do anything.....how do i find out if its loaded? (graphics are still crud!!!!) so hopefully that last file should do the trick? i'll catch you when your on next or i guess if anyone else knows how to download from that softlookup site it would be grat help and hopefully an end to this searching =].oz.

also how safe is that softlookup site?im still trying to navigate throu the site to try to download the file...clicking throu the site...at times it askes me to dowload a Language update...at 1st when i looked at the site i didnt....this time ive done so twice and when i did it said to dowload these updates from microsoft????i dont know how much it loaded? i'll have a look myself but is there possibly anouther site to find these drivers from?thanks.oz.

I see, if you right click on my computer and select properties, and find the device manager, right click on the display driver and select (if you can) update driver. then tell it to search.

Also, slightly of topic, if you right click on the desktop and select properties then settings tab, can you change the colour depth to 32 bit?

no i cant change to 32 bit yet....also when i try to update the driver it says the one thats being used is the best!!! lol and i really dont know how to do it the other way from picking from the list or letting the pc know were to look for it if you know what i mean?

all the sites so far to dowload the other (only got 9 google searches for it and 2 were from softlook up) want me to dowload anouther a Language update or there are hundereds of drivers on the page and i cant seem to locate the one i need.oz.

after a bit of searching i found an ady to email ali and asked them if they know where i can dowload it from...i hope the answers isnt no or we will have to send you it in disk for ect ...so in th rmean time if you have any more ideas i could you them.thanks.oz.

hahahahahahahaha WOW this is the 1st time ive seen this site in colour yea thats right......bad the real sad news is.....ahhh go on a whack me one lol ...well (blushes lol) about 1 1/2 years ago a mate worked at this palce where they were throwing away software.....and i said grab me some...well he got me a usefull windows 98 disk and a useless " apg 3d graphics & vidieo accelorator" usless lol well i put it in on the chance it coulnt do anyworse..installed it... started up the pc and COLOUR ......man im so happy.

so a BIG THANKS TO all THAT HELPED atleasted with all you hard work it gave me me the thought to try somthing else. thanks so much ppl.
after i now experience the net again with ease and in colour i'll get back with the details of the driver i used for any ppl in the future with the same problem that search the net. =] .oz_herb......now in colour!!!!

if any one is interested in the future for the same problem the driver i used was -
nvidia riva tnt2..see ya.oz.