YEAHHHHH BAY-B!....SERIOUSLY!!!


nn23


no..but seriously!

I believe Jeff Foxworthy but it best "When a woman says I'm not wearing any underwear men automaticly think I'm gonna get some tonight!! but when a man say I'm not wearing any underwear a woman thinks Good Lord I'm gonna have to wash those pants twice"

That's a good one BS.
That happens, especially if he suffers from some flatulance.
Respectfully,
Darthy

LMAO

I'm just picturing those boxers burning now he he

For God's sake nn, the guy looks like a flamethrower.

thats some SERIOUS gas!

It's called the "Over 40's Syndrome" You have to be carefull,even when you cough.

I just had a coughing fit about 2 minutes ago


yes, i know, i know, you'll all be thanking me for that bit of information

If you under 40yrs,your pretty safe.
If you are over 40yrs,you had better check.

She is 98 years old DSTM.

NOOOOooooo ho hoh ohohoha ha hahahahaha fingers in ears, i mean hands over eyes....BOTH



(big grin)

DSTM!!!

I continue to have the suspicion that you are an "highlander" or a "vampire" nn.

eeee hehe he


...Actually, was the highlander myth made up by the film story eriters or is it based some what on a real myth?

No, there is no real myth, it's only a movie story.

i worked in a casino dealing blackjack for several years. i had to put up with both: too much cologne, too much perfume...but one woman in particular smelled as though she'd bathed in the stuff; i just could not help myself. i told her..."nice perfume. did you have to marinate in it? didn't go over real well with her, but the other players certainly appreciated it.

i always thought that make-up, scents, piercings, etc were supposed to enhance one's looks, not completely eradicate hide them. my daughter has beautiful eyes and has a piercing in her eyebrow. she only wears either a small ring or small barbells. it draws attention to those eyes of hers. but when a person has a big nose and pierces it.....or has pretty eyes and puts a huge earring in her chin...well. i just don't get it.

and a guy in make-up? NOT. this is just NOT a turn on. in fact, quite the opposite. what amuses me about this is that most men i know don't particularly like tons of make up on a woman, either.

i like men who are clean and well kept, wear deoderant and maybe a hint of cologne (my hubby smells absolutely....mmmm...in jovan musk for men, and i can find him with my eyes closed from across the room with just a touch of it on!). likewise, i try to be well groomed as well. i wear mascara only because without it i have no eyelashes...and they happen to be quite long; a touch of eyeliner, and a dab of egyptian musk oil. no eyeshadow, no lipstick. neither of us colors our hair (i have been very fortunate in this area..at 48, i don't HAVE to yet!) ...and i LIKE his grey...it's sexy! besides, he's EARNED it! we both have tattoos, however, they're discreet. we got them for our private pleasure! (too many of those goes a long way, too.)

but i do have him use moisturizer; it only makes sense. he works out in the elements, and i don't want his handsome face to become like leather any more than i want mine to. however, he takes all of about 10 seconds twice daily to do this...it's become part of his routine, just like brushing his teeth.

so be manly men, and be PROUD of it!

The only thing I am concerned about my look is this:

My Clothes: as long as they look clean and don't smell and aren't too wrinkly.
Hair: as long as it doesn't look like I just woke up, I'm fine... I never use a comb.
Fingernails: I only cut them when it affects my typing or I start biting on them.
Shower: every day, or I feel like crap.
facial hair: eh.. I'll go at most 2 days without shaving but then it feels like I am growing a beard... it grows too fast now.

It's just to show that the male species are just as concerned about their appearance as the female species.

I'm a manly man I:
1)Shave once a month and only my face, without a mirror
2)Have a high and tight hair cut so its ready to go when I wake up
3)Have been known to use duck and electrical tape as bandages, Super glue for "liquid stitches", Spyderwire fishing line as stitches, and alcohol as a painkiller.
4)Scar tissue is a badge of honor I wear with pride as long as it doesnt screw up my tattoos
5)Theres more alcohol in my fridge than food (the delivery guys love me)
6) I wash my hands with degreaser, Tide, and Paint thinner
7) My Bathroom has a Toothbrush, Toothpaste, GoJo, Shampoo, and a bottle of body wash (more portable than bar soap)

The Bad part about this is its true. Your all welcome to come over and see it for yourselves.

I hope you'll forgive me for bursting out in delighted laughter when I read your above posting, BlackSpyder!

May I suggest you try something a tad less toxic than 'paint thinner', though? Eep!

Personally, I find men doing that to be absolutely disgusting, and frankly, I don't really like it when women do it too. I know I'm weird . I find cologne and perfume to be overpowering. Pointless too as with most other "beauty" products. Think about it for a second. Why do I need to wear this cologne to get a girl to like me and vice versus? Whose idea was this anyway? The retailers of course! More money for them! Relationships should be 80% about personality and other psyche related things, not looks, but sadly, 'tis not so. Naturally I think you should be clean, well groomed, and use deoderant, but that's it. It's bad enough women using make-up etc., men it's disgusting.

I try to shave often, but I do so out of respect for my wife's face. If I was single and still at University, I wouldn't shave, ever!

Being well groomed is a matter of good hygiene, a way of remaining healthy. We should all take pride in our bodies, but not to the point of vanity.

I only wear cologne when I want to "get in good graces" with my wife. Many women respond to pleasant, manly smells. Why not use that knowledge for the good?

And clothes do make the man. If one is working on their car, then they should dress like they are going to get dirty. But if one is going out, to someone's house, to dinner, or some other social function; I think it is a matter of showing respect for your companion and those around you to dress well. Ironed clothes, no blue on black, no brown shoes with black belt, simple stuff. A man shouldn't preen, but some attention to one's appearance can go a long way.

Salud,
bg04

Re: "Being well groomed is a matter of good hygiene, a way of remaining healthy. We should all take pride in our bodies, but not to the point of vanity".

And re: "But if one is going out, to someone's house, to dinner, or some other social function; I think it is a matter of showing respect for your companion and those around you to dress well".

Wonderfully said, blueandgold04!

And while I could be wrong, when I see someone who is truly 'slovenly' I always feel sad - and suspect that they are either depressed and simply don't like themselves.

But when I read your above comment about people dressing appropriately for certain occassions, well, I'm still smiling and thinking yipee!!! When someone goes to all the work of trying to create a beautiful dinner with a beautifully set table and a sparkling clean house and one of the guests arrives wearing tattered old blue jeans and a baggy, paint-stained tee-shirt - ugh! The guest may think they are making a 'statement' or perhaps simply 'couldn't be bothered' but in reality, it's an insult to not just the host but the other guests as well.

And a partner who smells clean and is well groomed (and I'm not talking about 'looks' here - simply caring about what we've got, whether tall or short, thin or not or whatever) says, at least to me, to the other and those around them, that they care.

I would simply like to add a couple points: Someone who isn't dressed well or looks slovenly may simply not be able to afford better. My dad tells stories of when he couldn't even afford a bar of soap. Good clothes cost money, much more than a bar of soap. Good clothes that fit well cost even more. That said, if someone does have the funds to dress well, one should at appropriate occasions. Of course, there is also the possibility that someone arrives at an occasion inappropriately dressed because ve didn't have time to change clothes. So should one arrive late and dressed appropriately or on time and dressed inappropriately?

I'm with solaris32, many 'beauty products' make one look ridiculous, fake, or even ugly. Who someone is is much more important than what someone looks like or what someone is wearing.

Orange Blossom

Oh dear, I fear I was a tad insensitive by not making my earlier post truly clear. I truly was not speaking of the 'homeless' or those that are poverty-striken when I made the statement about 'slovenly' people. But even with our homeless, there are those that own a comb - and use it. And while their clothes may be ill-fitted and rumpled they are as clean as they can manage. They, literally, are doing the very best that they can and they surely deserve our respect as I can't imagine how difficult life must be for so many.

But for those of us who can afford a bar of soap, I'm afraid I do stand by my old-fashioned and likely out-dated belief - my guests should arrive clean and dressed appropriately (a clean pair of trousers and a clean tee-shirt is certainly acceptable if that's what they own). But to arrive late and dressed inappropriately or dirty (without a true reason) is not a compliment either to themselves or the other guests.

While part of me truly does agree with the statement, "Who someone is is much more important than what someone looks like or what someone is wearing" (for surely if the true 'who' wasn't someone I liked and/or respected, they wouldn't be a guest in my home anyway) - how we present ourselves to the world is how the world often perceives us.

It doesn't take fancy, expensive clothes nor designer shoes - but caring enough to make the most of what we have (and polishing those shoes) and trying to ensure we don't offend others by not washing or pouring on buckets of scent, makes a statement, perhaps both to ourselves and to others.

I suppose this is the question that brought about the phrase 'fashionably late'?

I would rather be late and well dressed for the occasion than be on-time and appear unkempt.




This is a point I had not considered, but one that I need to keep in mind going forward. It is so easy to make judgements with no knowledge of circumstance.

Yet, I think as the host, if a guest arrives and lacks the means to meet dress standard at the function, then it is the responsibility of the host to offer proper attire (if the matter requires such attention). Above all we must be civil towards one another, which includes being compassionate.

You may laugh all you like MaraM (its good to see you feeling up to posting). Trust me I have a good laugh when I think about it too.

Just so y'all dont think Im a slob I'll say this. The g/f likes the beard about a week after shaving. I own 8 pairs of shoes and boots(I just counted them) 4 Pairs are spit shine clean(riding boots, dress boots and 2 pairs of tennis shoes I rarely wear). However I have had to show up at events looking rough. I try not to but it happens sometimes

And I'm sure you have a perfectly valid reason for doing so, the times you do show up "rough", BlackSypder! Happy grin!

My husband has grown a beard this winter and I must confess I think it's wonderful - the first few days was a 'no kissing' time, though - gosh, men's beginning-beards can be like scrubbing a face with sandpaper - eep!


And when I was reading blueandgold's comment about being civil to one another ...

I still feel miserably ashamed of myself when I think of a poor, dear guest who did exactly what people make jokes about - drank from the finger bowl. Not our guest's fault, mine entirely - but the lesson I learned that evening has lasted - I switched to using hot, damp clothes for guests (swiped that idea from a lovely Japanese custom) and most of all never forgot that it's a host's job to ensure everyone feels comfortable and never, ever is embarassed.

But back to 'men and masculinity' - two years ago we arrived at a friend's funeral and a young man arrived just as the doors were closing and walked straight to the front of the Church and sat in the front pew. Lovely that he showed up for his uncle's funeral. Not so lovely that he showed up wearing cut-off tattered jeans and a dirty 'muscle' tee shirt. Not lack of funds (he drove up in his Jag!!) - just lack of respect for his Uncle and everyone around him. When his Aunt gave him poop after the service, his attitude was 'the clothes don't make the man' - and I literally snorted up my coffee up my nose when his Aunt said, "What man?".

Guess he was 'making a statement' - but for his Aunt and many of us, his statement was simply that he was inconsiderate and uncaring of how he made those that loved him feel.