Below is a tracking chip that was attached to the box of a Seagate 300G hard drive, which was bought at a Circuit City store. These devices are designed to track and monitor you, the consumer. These devices are not only invasion of your privacy, they also have the downfall of having you accused of crimes that which you've never committed.

My web site, which is being dedicated to the exposures of any and all consumer products that are known and proven to have these chips in them, will educate consumers as to who joined the race to tracking you. You do not want these items in your home, and if you do happen to have these items, you'll need to be armed with the information as to finding the RFID's and the proper disposing of them.

These RFID chips are now already in many products world-wide. You may even have a few of them in your home right now and don't even know it. Be informed, and take action against this unethical, unlawful practice going on.

I'm going to save all of the good stuff for when my site is ready, but for now, go and visit these links, and you'll soon agree that your privacy is at risk, simply by going to the store and buying everyday consumer products.

Start with the sites below.
http://www.spychips.com/
http://www.nocards.org
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These devices are flexible like paper, so it's hard to spot them, unless you're actually looking for them. The next time you buy ANYTHING, look for stickers on them, and peel them off. Not all RFID are stickers though, some are actually embedded in-between the cardborad packaging, inside of clothing, shoes, and many other consumer products. So again, these RFID chips are NOT all in the sticker format, so be aware. To give you the magnitude of this, they're putting them in packs of chewing gum.

That is kinda spooky....

Have you seen the PAY pass comercials for mastercard?
It uses RFID just like that one so you can pay by tapping.

Now the RFID above cannot track you around the store. It basically works like a upc I read.

There are two types. The type like above and the one in the credit cards only get power when they are scanned over a power source. The other type has a power source of its own and can send signals of where you are in the store.

This is what I have read on some RFID websites. They are dangerous if they are in credit cards. People can make RFID readers and buy them. If they were to carry them and walk down the street next to people they could probably take peoples money.

The PAY PASS cards have already been tested and found that anyone can build one of the readers for less than $50, and carry it around and wave it nextto people and gather the needed information to make purchases off of your card.

While these RFID's aren't quite in full mode, the pupose of the chips is so that when the "Distant Readers" are up and running, officials can drive by your home and read everything in your house that has a chip in it. In other words, take inventory of the contents of inside your house.

They are already putting up some towers on top of buildings across the USA, and the officials refuse to answer what those antennas are for. People suspect they are to boost the range of the readers, possibly scanning cars and people as they move about.

Either way, they are dangerous and they are invasion of your privacy.

Also, incase many of you haven't know this, but tracking devices have been installed in vehicles since the early '90's. Now they're setting up all the boxes nationwide to complete their network, and when they do complete it, instantly, 10's of millions of vehicles will be trackable. Not to mention the vehicles that come with the GPS and road maps and all that crap. They're tracking people already with the newer vehicles. The network grid may already be in place for the vehicles they installed the tracking devices of the '90's vehicles and up.

But, for the vehicles, there is a device you can buy for around $300 and it plugs into your cigarette lighter and it'll block the satellite from tracking you. But it won't block GPS tracking. At least that's a start. There are groups and so forth already making counter-surveilence products that are available to the public right now. I've picked me a few pieces of equipment myself.

Man, this is scary.Thanks Walkman for making us aware of these invasions of privacy.
This is heading for total control of our lives.Can't wait till your web site is up and running.
Have you an answer as how we can stop this onslaught? Makes me feel like going and living
on some deserted Island somewhere,but I probably wouldn't be safe there either.
ABC TV here in AUST said today there are 4 million cctv cameras in London alone,
and the average worker will be spied upon on an average 300 times a day.
I wonder what the future holds for us.

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DSTM.

I'm eagerly awaiting your website. I'd like the ability to find these buggers whenever they're foisted off on me. The appears to be way beyond the limits of sensibility (IMO).

BUT ITS FOR SECURITY.

I think it was Benjamin Franklin that said "To be safe is to never be secure"

You drive down the freeway and they have "speeding cameras" that if you go over the speed limit they can send you a bill.

The government doesnt like people who make spyware and viruses that spy on people but they go out and make spyware that happenes to everyone off of the computers.

To DSTM,

There is alot people like us can do about it. There are plenty of web sites out there that are fighting to help keep our rights.... our rights. For now, at least visit the links I've posted above, and join the cause. Believe that you can help make a difference, and you will. I'm not alone in this, I'm one who learned of this some time ago, and I refuse to be cattled and rustled up for the kill. In the meantime, I'm working on my site, and it'll make a difference, because there isn't a site out there right now, that specifically identifies any and every single product embedded with those chips, and I personally want to know myself.

They said that they are adapting the RFID chips to metals, which mean the metals of many items will act as an antenna. Which means, they will be putting those chips inside of electronics and it won't interfere with their usage.

To usasma,

Hang in there. I'm working on it, and I want you all to be a part of it too. I'm getting it rolling, and I'm gathering all I need to make it so informative, we'll all be armed with enough information to know before hand what is bugged, and what isn't.

Guess what I just found out today? Many of you may already know this, but the retailer Target?... it is the nations top experts on crime labs. Not only that, they are one of the leading marketers/sponsors of surveilence cameras, and they've branched out into the police field. That's another store I won't ever go to. I believe I shopped there once in my life, and that was about 13 years ago.

To cowsgonemadd3

Benjamin Franklin also said, Those who would give up their liberties for security deserve neither. No one could have said that any better.

As far as the cameras on the freeway, they're past that point. Here's what they're doing. Included into the products that are being RFID chipped are vehicle tires. They are putting the readers into the pavement on the hiways and with the tracking into your tires, they'll be able to spot you as you drive on the hiway, tell how fast you're going, and on top of that, tell which exit you got off of. This is how far this is going. And they're already doing it now. The cameras are simply the visual tracking, but they're spiking the roadways now with the tracking mechanisms in them. I wouldn't be surprised if tires are right now trackable with the RFID's in them.

....Stay Tuned

Well the tracking of the roadways is not everywhere. I have never seen this in the tires but I have seen cameras in big cities.

Would be weird to take a tire apart and find a chip in it.

Walmart is the biggest RFID user right now I read. I could be wrong.

The roadways will be there soon enough

That's the reason they're putting them in the tires. Because they know people won't take them apart, and it gives them a bonafide way to track vehicles. But, when I say these things are being done, I'm not saying every industry is part of this RFID'ing of products. There are many companies that have rejected the idea and they call it invasion of their customers' privacy. So, everyone isn't in on this. That's why I'm gettng my site together, because we'll be armed with choices of where and who to do business with. Soon, there will be many stores I'll never go into again, simply because they monitor their customers, even when they leave their premises.

You're not wrong about Wal-Mart. They are the biggest retailer that supports the RFID. They want EVERY item chipped. And I mean EVERY item.

Hello Walkman,Further to using RFID's in tyres.What really would be the reason for doing this?The government is not interested in Mr or Mrs average joe surely.Could it be one company to spy on another,or for the police to track drug trafficking or track get away or stolen vehicles?Just curious.If it were to be used for legit purposes,it would somehow be something I could live with.As far as all products are concerned,I think it's criminal.I guess all this will be explained on your new net page. ASAP Please.

DSTM.

I can right off the back think of many reasons for such, and many will no doubt be implemented, once the evil-doers get it all setup. like:

1. Tracking people and then ambushing/kidnapping them.
2. Knowing where you're at, so that way they know where you're NOT, giving them time to plant evidence against you.
3. Using GPS tracking, being able to launch missile attacks at designated targets. (meaning a home or such, or even while you're traveling on the road, air and sea)
4. Being able to plant your RFID'd item at a crime scene and blame you for it. Oh.. incase you're wondering, they can easily take your RFID'd item from out of your trash, that you put out to be collected.
5. Since they're adapting the RFID's into the metals, before a bust or an invasion of your home, they'll know right off the back if there are any firearms in your home, and how many knives you may have. Then they'll know how to pursue you.
6. Stealing of your identity. Those RFID chips will be in credit cards. Actually, they're in them now.
7. National ID Cards. Incase you haven't heard about this yet, in May 2008, every American has to have a National ID Card. DON'T ACCEPT THOSE CARDS. Those cards will have everything you've always had on your id or drivers license, PLUS they will have your thumbprint/fingerprint on them, AND they will have the RFID chips in them.

The part you need to be afraid of is this: Once you accept these National ID Cards, you'll already be documented on the list of people that will now HAVE to get a RFID implant underneath your flesh. If you take the card being issued, you have already screwed yourself, and it WILL get worse for you very soon.

The part you all are going to have to decide about NOT accepting the National ID cards is this.
8. Without one, you won't be able to legally drive nor travel.
9. Without one, you won't be allowed inside of any federal buildings. (well that's a relief for many of us)
10. Without one, you won't be able to vote.
11. Without one, you won't be able to do things you were used to doing, that required ID.

Since the electronic voting machines are rigged, voting isn't legit anymore. But putting no#10 aside, all the rest of the things can be done, without being tracked and monitored.

If anyone believes in the Mark Of The Beast, then you wouldn't want those RFID chips, nor want to have any chips underneath your flesh, tracking what you do, every moment of your life.

On a closing note,,,, what good is the tracking for anyway?... it's so common that children go missing every single year, there is an estimated count of 700,000 per year. Not even including the adults that go missing per year. So let's say 1,000,000 people go missing per year. All of those people aren't dead, and many of them are still in the USA... but that many people go missing per year, and they're, for the most part, never found.... want to know why?

I've been doing so research on government secret facilities, and I've come up with approximately 200 secret facilities across the USA that are underground. Well what do you know?... I've found a source that verified that there are at least 800 secret underground government facilities here in the USA. And also to shed some light on this, the government has asked/demanded/threatened every company in the USA that make maps to take those roads and so forth off of the next versions of the maps. My advice, even if you update your maps every year, keep your old ones, and you may start to see roads and locations now disappearing from the maps.

Do you still think that over 1,000,000 people every year here in the USA are simply missing? I don't. Many of them are held underground in those facilities. What do you think they need that many for anyway? What's the secret?

The RFID chips tie into all of this. And if you value your life/freedom/security and health, you'd reject them at every angle they come at you.

Our Government here in Aust is working on a national ID card also.
I am not becoming paranoid,simply concerned where all this is leading to.Also what is the real agenda .There are many reasons, as to why persons go missing every year.Some just simply don't want to be found, and a large number, the victims of fowl play. My own feeling, the next step is to microchip us under the skin like animals etc.
Once we don't have to carry a wallet full of papers for identification,identity fraud will step up to the next level, resulting in thieves removing our micro chips any way they feel like.Personally, I would rather give them my wallet, than be perhaps murdered, just so someone can steal my identity.
I don't believe we can stop this insane invasion, into our privacy, one out.It would take all of us to, as a united front to stop our governments going beyond their mandate.I think if we are concerned for our childrens future,we had better start taking a real interest in what the governments are planning for us.If we simply bury our heads in the sand, as it were,we are going to be in for one rude shock,IMHO.

DSTM.

Ahh, "The New World Order" again, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_world_order be carefull with this kind of things.
Thanks for your posts Walkman. This is a very serious matter.
Regards,
Darthy

RFID = Real Freaky Idiot Detection?

"Label maker allows it's consumers to cut RFID"

Now get a favorite beverage and read...

"RFID EXOTICA: RFID is no longer a high-tech bean counter"

I'm so glad to see that many of you are taking this seriously, because it's a serious matter.

KoanYorel & Darthy, you've both posted some serious links. I appreciate it too.

One thing I do want to make clear... I will never, ever knowingly post a "hoax" or anything of that nature here on a site like this, and not inform you within the thread (some indication) that it's a hoax. I don't ever want to be portrayed as that type of person.

Darthy...... I can show you some stuff that will make you go have a drink. Things about the Illuminati, the Masons, the Skull & Bones. Those that are trapped in the illusion of the perpetrators will always believe "Awe man,, that's not real"... that's what we're suppose to think. But they also know that power comes in numbers. And the more informed we are, the more powerful we are than they want us to believe.

I know I am going to meet my maker one day.. and I accept that... but one thing is for sure... and that is... at least I'm not going out like a sucker. I'm one of the many people aware of the tactics being used against us. And I'm not giving in... and I know it may cost me my life..... so what. I don't want to live here on this corrupt place forever anyway.

KoanYorel, you too, you've posted some powerful information. I'm sure when many of you look at the info on those pages.. you get very upset. I know I do, and that's because I know what's going on. The New World Order.

People don't know that there is a depopulation plan that has been in effect for some time. And it is to depopulate the entire world of 80%+ human beings. I have the government (publicly available) document that talks about it. I kid you not... they are planning to exterminate 80%+ of human beings world-wide off the earth.

One of those documents I have (declassified), they discuss how they're making the American Work Camps available, that will house American citizens as slaves, and will annihilate approximately 20 million African American. That's in a government report.

They said the reason for this is to provide the military/government with cheap labor. The government won't have to pay to get any job done, because it'll be done by slave labor. I'm telling you this now.. it is in a declassified government report issued by the US Army.

I can see the transition going on now, because, on the news here approximately 5 days ago, in California, Arnold Swartzenegger (something like that) signed a bill that will allow 1,000 of their prisoners to be transferred to other states. He says the prisons are too full, and he won't have any choice but to start letting them out in the public. That is the deception of the lie if you know what I know. They are now transferring prisoners from state to state to fulfill their objectives. Oh, and let me remind you of this.... State prisoners WILL be transferred to Federal Prisons. Watch,, and you'll see. They'll say there's no more room in the state prisons. Watch.. they're going to do it.

They're also tracking and monitoring us so they can make their plans easy to execute.

They've already poisoned the drinking water with fluoridation.
Monsanto Corp has already bought just about every seed company in the US. They are the makers of the Agent Orange, and other deadly chemicals that has caused the deaths of millions of people. They are buying all the seed companies because they don't want the population to produce their own fruits and vegetables any more.

Buying Wheat seeds from the US in 2005, (Monsanto Corp), over 1,000 farmers in India committed suicide. All because they bought bad seeds from the US to help them produce wheat. I had read in February of this year that it was over 100 farmers that committed suicide, but in October of this year (2006) I read in another report that it was over 1,000.

They are working on global annihilation. If you're taking flu shots, getting vaccinations or any of that other sorcery, you're putting your health at great risk. Stop it. There are many countries over this world that said they wouldn't dare do what The American Health Department does to us. And guess what.... those same countries right now are the same or even healthier than American People.

Did you know that fluoride is the no#1 ingredient put in rat poison? Yep,,, and guess what? We brush out teeth with it,, (not me) and we drink it (not me)... that's what they mean by fluoridating the drinking water.... they mean pouring rat poison into it. There is no difference in the meaning of what they do with it. If you consume it,,, it's going to eventually kill you.

Actually, I could go on and on and on about this. I have more info than the Internet can hold about this. I'm truly up on this.

But thanks for the links and the replies, opinions, etc.... it's all good.

Be aware.. very aware, because all of this is part of tracking you.

I must admit, I find all this nearly 'mind boggling' and honestly don't quite know what to think yet.

I don't mind receiving a speeding ticket in the mail later if I've been foolish enough to speed through red lights, etc - and I don't mind there being cameras covering downtown public streets (after all, one should not be doing bad things to start with, right? - and those of us that don't, should have nothing to fear).

But I have very mixed feelings about 'location chips' that can be placed under a human's skin (although we have them in both our kitties 'just in case'). One reads about children being taken and vanishing forever - but the idea of having it done with a child still makes me very queasy and unsettled.

Where it may work, and work well, are for those that have diseases such as Alzheimer's, perhaps. While the ID bracelets do serve a purpose, usually by the time the rescuers find these wandering off souls, it's often too late. But even with this and similar diseases, I'd feel better about it if the patient themselves made the decision to have/not have the chip prior to reaching the point of truly needing it.

Like I said before, there are approximately 800 or so secret underground government facilities here in the United States.

Get to go inside of those places, and I'm sure you'll find many of the missing people that have been forgotten. Literally millions go missing per year.... and over 700,000 are children.

Since they know basically where the implants are at, it's easy to take them out, and destroy the chip... and guess what?.... you'll still never find that missing person. It's part of the illusion.

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The same as getting your pets that way... keep your pet secured like you're suppose to. My dog is so mean, I'm worried about anyone trying to get to him or take him away... he's not friendly at all.

Also... chipping your pet only puts you on the list... who's the owner? You?.. who do we go after? you... all of that is still tying into tracking you... even if it means tracking a pet of yours. I don't know about you, but my dog isn't cattle, and if he ever gets out and runs away and never comes back....... "Oh Well". If I were you, I'd go and have it removed. What makes you think after all these years you had your pet, they're going to decide to leave?.... they're not like humans... pets know where they have it good. But they want us to think since they're promoting it, we now need to think that our pets might run away..... it's all a psychological warfare. It's just a trick. Just to get to you,, they can,, just because they already chipped your pets.

Wake up... wake up..... don't be fooled into thinking it's for your own good. It's pure deception.

Yeah I use natural tooth paste from toms of maine. Much better than any other out there! Did you know chlorine in water also is very bad for you. We had fish in our cow water tanks and when the city water was cut on the fish died. It gets cut on every now and then when a line breaks to the well or the power is out. It killed the fish in very little time in just the drinking water. But thats for another topic altogether I guess.

Here in Sydney the town water supply is full of chlorine.In this city,we haven't got any water tanks and the water is shocking, to say the least. Fill up a glass of this water and the smell makes you sick.
Smells identical to smelling a wet dog. We have to buy bottled natural spring water, for our health sake.

Our toothpaste here is full of flouride, which is not good for you also. I am looking for a safer toothpaste to use also, but up till now haven't had much luck in finding any brand, we are happy with.Everything you buy today if full of chemicals,and we need to be aware of what these companies are doing. Food products are a big concern to me as they contain many poisons,but in such low doses, our food authority lets them continue to poison us slowly.

DSTM.

The only problem with this paranoia is that RFID tags don't have the range needed to work longer then a few inches, a foot or two at best. Most RFID tags work by induction so to get serious transmitting range out of it you have to hit it with serious magnetic fields and serious voltage/amperage levels. There is a reason that little silicon chips only run on 5 volts. It's because higher voltages would make them NOT little.

So tracking is impossible with them currently.

If you really want to worry about tracking look into GPS built into cars like the "on star" where if you are in trouble they can find you or your stolen car. This system is what can track you as long as its plugged in.

DSTM,

To make things a bit easier for you... go to a "health" store. They have what you DON'T want/need. And yes, they have the NON-fluoridated toothpaste.

When I get all my bookmarks combined from all my computers, I'm going to post every-single link that will show all of you the things that I'm sure you'll want to know about. and nothing from these links will ever be seen/talked about on your local news.

I'm doing this because I believe you all want to know... and if you had this information, I would pray that you would make it available to me too.

"For those of us that are in numbers, are of the greater half"
I just made that one up...... but it's the truth.
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Hi nlinecomputers,

Glad to get your input.

I'm going to post some links that you can check out,, and soon you'll see that the range that you're talking about,,,,, you're already waaaayyyyyy behind what's going on. They have the tracking monitors going further and further. If you believe it's possible to go a few feet,, then believe they've devised ways to go further.

Just so you'll know, I'm almost finished with my schooling,,, which is RFID Implementation. I know alot about them. I'm learning it because I want to avoid the tracking.

Some of my curriculum involves implementing devices that go extended ranges. That's why I'm telling you that the few feet ranges are waaayyy out-dated. They go further than that.

They have the antennas on top of buildings right now. You can see many of them in New York right now.

But either way you look at it,,, look at this whole thing with an open mind.

Thanks again Walkman for your tips and making us aware of whats happening.
As I see it,we have only two options:

1 Listen and learn,about what's really going on.

2 Bury our heads in the sand, and pretend it's not happening.

I chose the first option, because it's better to be sure than sorry.IMHO.

DSTM.

Post your research. Post links to your curriculum. What school do you attend? I've never heard of any degree in RFID Implementation. Now if you said Electrical Engineering.... I don't care what kind of antennas are being put on building by illuminati. The limits are in the RFID tags themselves not any antennas that are being put up. That doesn't mean that they can't track some RFID tags. But those tags will have to have there own power source. A GPS matched unit in a car running off the car battery certainly has the power. A induction fed tag would need a very powerful magnetic field to focused on it to trigger it let alone give it enough power to transmit a great distances. Somehow I think if they did that it would not be very secret as it would scramble your cell phones and microwave the cat. Not to mention cause the tag to burst into flame.

British RFID Passports Easily Hacked

New passports issued in the UK contain Radio Frequency
Identification (RFID) chips, supposedly for purposes of
increased security. But a report in the British newspaper
The Guardian found the passports surprisingly easy to read
and copy. Using a device purchased for £250, a Guardian
reporter was able to view and copy information from several
of the new passports.

Although the new passports use a strong crypto algorithm to
protect their biometric data, the encryption key is easy to
steal. The key consists of the passport number, the holder's
date of birth, and the expiration date. Since a reader can
potentially scan a passport from as much as 30cm away, a
passport could be read and cloned without the passport ever
leaving the victim's pocket.

For this post and related links about RFIDs:
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/005019.php

I totally agree with you Walkman. I think the great majority of people is still sleaping for these serious matters.
They consider these things cases only for lunatics and conspiracy theorists. I know also something about these issues and I am very frightened with the course of our World.
For those of us who are already awakened for these kind of things I would suggest the reading of these links:
Bilderberg Book Suppressed by Portuguese
Bilderberg Group
Bilderberg Group Wikipedia
Bilderberg: The ultimate conspiracy theory
I hope those that know these kind of things are real, can convince the others of the serious and real danger that we all are in.
Regards,
Darthy

To nlinecomputers,

I have a bachelor's degree in Electronics Engineering Technology(EET). It's totally different than Electrical Engineering... although i could get that degree in no time, since electronics involve electrical.

The school I went to isn't important, because I don't need anyone trying to track me either.

As far as being certified for FRID implementation... you should do your research. Of course you can get certified to implement RFID.. and why would that need certification, I may ask?

Incase you haven't known this either, tracking chips and GPS can be maintained on you and your car,, even without a battery source. So no,, they don't just run off of car batteries. I hope you've heard of internal power sources. This technology is being implemented and it's being wide-spread.

No, again,,, with those tiny little devices that are so small, the antennas CAN have the capacity to higher-range the receiving end of the transmission. What I mean? I mean that if you have a RFID item in your house, depending on the range of the antenna, it can read every-single item that is in your house (chipped).... because they constantly send out low-emitting signals.

All-in-all, I'm just giving you the skinny of what's going on. I've been into electronics since I was a child, and it's still paying off for me. I wanted to be on top of technology,, and it's still paying off fpr me. Besides my degree, I've worked in electronics research fields that involved the implementation of RFID chips. I know what's going on, and I've researched much of it. It's the most advanced spying technique being used, but this time, it's being used on everyone.

Since RFID chips are being put in products, the moral thing to do is to at least inform people of such. Tell me,, why don't they want people to know about the RFID tracking chips? My answer?... To track you without you knowing it.

Remember this: If you are willing to give up your freedom and liberty for security, you do not deserve any.

Researchers have flagged the potential for the Nike+iPod Sport Kit to make a user's location available to a tracker with modest equipment, raising concerns this could be of use to a stalker or the like interested in someone's movements.

"It is easy for someone to use the Nike+iPod as a tracking device"

"The researchers suggest that people who own a Nike+iPod Sport Kit turn it off when they're not exercising so that it stops emitting signals."

http://www.physorg.com/news84118849.html

Nice one... you see, I still learn things too. Platypus, I didn't know that one, and thanks for the "heads-up". I never owned an iPod, but now I'm convinced I really don't ever want to get one either.

But guess what?... it's true, really true... that you can actually remove the batteries from many RFID tracking devices and it can still track you.. a very true example?.... cell phones.

I'm telling you all, tracking chips (more and more of them now) are self powered from within. So what that means is that even if you remove the batteries, they'll still operate. They already thought about people removing the batteries years ago, and that's why they are self powered (8 out of 10 of the RFID's now). It's to make to believe you have out-witted them.... NOT!

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Although you may see this in movies, but this is the que to understand the tracking.... You watch a movie, and then when a person makes their call, you see them throw their cell phones away, either in the water, trash, or whatever?.... depending on how you look at movies, but it's telling you that your cell phone is tracking you at all times.

A perfect movie to see how deep this really is, is to see the movie "Enemy of the State". It is 1,000,000% of what is being done and has been done for quite some time. Believe it or not, I just saw that movie just this year. You can call it acting all you want, but it made me even more aware of what's going on. And you don't have to be a secret agent or something. The plan is to cattle up the population, then strike when you are ready.

I've always encouraged people to learn to play chess. Why? for 1, it's fun and challenging, and for 2, it's proven scientifically and researchers have proven that people that play chess have opened up an area of the brain, that would otherwise have been unexplored by oneself. Trust me.. if you never played chess, learn it and play it,, and watch how more thoughtful you'll become. I've been playing for most of my life, and it's a well worth effort to learn it. It may seem lame or such, but playing chess will open your ability to think things more so than never before, actually making you smarter. Personally, I believe it too. That's why so many people don't play chess.... because it requires you to do some serious, heavy thinking, which most people would rather avoid.

Just wanted to add a few notes on NEW cell phones

Federal law has required that all cell phones be able to track their location by 2005. The first phones with this capability have already hit the market. Samsung has pioneered the effort....
http://daily.stanford.edu/article/2002/4/1...iveClothesTools

Tracing a cell phone helped the rescuers find the Kim family in Oregon.



. Text Messages Led Searchers To Stranded Family
It's the device is always in contact or contacting a satellite,that makes it trackable.

Thanks for the post boopme.

I would guess this isn't enough proof for some people that RFID tracking is becoming more and more a law that is secretly passed on to the consumers. That's why I started this topic in the 1st place. To at least warn people of the products they buy MAY be tracking them. Sadly to say, many people still don't believe that *%&*#@ stinks.

If people think that they're not being tracked, they haven't been introduced to reality. Even though it shouldn't be a big deal to me about those that disagree, but it just pisses me off to know that those same people have that crap thrown in their faces and they're just like a person that doesn't even realize that he has a nose in front of his face. The same difference. Wake up people!!!

But, like it has been always said...

I appreciate all the replies and input here.... even to all of you that are blind to this issue. I will, and I do pray for you. We don't know the time nor the day, but we aught to know that it's coming, and it's going to come with everything it's got.

Countdown... May 2008.... National ID Cards.

That's just so ironic.. making it a law that you be tracked, and everything you possess.

For those of you that have been waiting for my RFID site to become available, please be a bit more patient. I've been doing alot of work in getting it together, and most of the work is complete. I'm working on some database issues, and other small aspects. But it will be coming soon.

This is not a dead issue.

Stay tuned!

Looking forward to it!

Until our Walkman began posting info about silent tracking, I really wasn't aware of much of it - but burst out laughing when I read the below article about:

"Canadian spy coin case baffles observers"

A U.S. defence report claiming Canadian coins were used as surveillance devices has raised security concerns and a few eyebrows since it became public knowledge this week.

(Source: http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2007/01/11/coin-spy.html )

Of course, there seems to be a lot of denials going on by the time I reached the end of the article, but if true,
I can't begin to imagine how much was spent creating and implementing this - and as the article mentions, what's the first thing one does with coins? - spend them, of course! Poof, purpose instantly defeated. Huge groan to whoever thought this up and a bigger groan to our government if they gave the go-ahead - eep!

Did find some some very interesting reading at http://www.privacyrights.org/ar/RFIDposition.htm

I also made a post about the Canadian coins yesterday in my other thread, about the RFID money.

Although I will agree that some of these tracking techniques are flawed, but it's quite obvious that they're being done anyway. That's what I'm watching out for. Just the fact that they are doing it is enough to keep me alert.

NWO is arriving, its all apart of the Project for the New American Century.

amen rsd79! the puzzle pieces are being put into place. for those of you who don't think our government is capable of perpetrating some of these things, look back on the internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII! those people did nothing wrong, but they were imprisoned.

to have true control over a population, you must be able to track and control their movements, and instill fear.

look at the aftermath of Katrina. many don't know that the national guard swept through the city, detaining, handcuffing, and disarming all remaining citizens. the use of military force against ones own citizens? that used to be illegal. violating their 2nd amendment rights. and nobody knew, it didn't make national news.

now they are asking everyone in susceptible areas to pre-register for assistance. name? residence? how many? income? when the time comes, they will ask one question; where are your papers? or national ID card?

they are programming and indoctrinating people across the country. you speak of fluoridation? fluorine is the single most reactive element on earth. not plutonium or uranium. hydrofluoric acid will liquify bones. i can explain the chemistry if anyone cares to know. i read a journal article describing how people ingest more than their daily intake of fluoride from one Coke and a bowl of cereal.

think of how they are teaching us to rid ourselves of any sort of tangible wealth. i read that in 2006 the American populace spent more than they made, dipping into savings to maintain their lifestyle level. there are only 3 other years this has happened: 2005, 1934, 1933! two years of the Great Depression. that should show how confused our priorities are. take a minute to think of all that you own that could be bartered in a time of depression.

they will exact control, and destroy anyone who resists. the power is in their hands. think of all the problems that we place in the government's control, and how crippled and ill-equipped we the people are.

Amen rsd79

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RFID

To me Rfid's are a good idea if used for benefit of improving our lifestyle.Like I have an Rfid in the windscreen of my car for toll road payments.Don't have to queue up for a mile in the heat waiting to pay cash.No use screaming about privacy issues,because our privacy went out the window years ago,when they brought in CCTV Cameras.Now there are millions of them,spying on every move.I believe we are sliding into a Dictatorship,and doubt whether anybody can stop it.I refuse to let this privacy abuse by our Governments make my life an absolute misery.I have nothing to hide,I dont care if RFID's are everywhere.They are too entrenched throughout the world,and soon there will be another type of Technology come out I would guess to help Big Brother spy on us even more.I cannot see any difference between CCTV Cameras,RFID's.We screamed when these cameras were brought in,and look how many crimes have been solved.All systems are open to abuse and like when Bosses plant Cameras in ladies toilets,there will allways be abuse of the Technology.I have read every post here on the subject and there is not one solution been suggested to beat the system.The truth is you can't.I am not going to crap my pants worrying about this 24/7 like some do.The first time I felt my privacy was abused was years ago when bosses installed One Way Glass to spy on us workers on the sly,and it has been getting worse ever since.All these Technologies have great benefits for us and also negatives,and we are forced to live with them,whether we like it or not.

Everything has it's good and bad to it. We all know that. But, as you mentioned, your speedpass to let you through the tolls quicker?.... still, you're being tracked, AND it can be used against you in the court of law.

Maybe your privacy went out the window years ago, but mine hasn't. I'm not one to make statements as if I should just accept it. Not me. I may grin-n-bear-it, but I don't accept it. Besides, why would anyone care if their every moved is tracked and monitored? I hope I'm not hearing:
"We should all give up our liberties for security."

As far as CCTV's, there are ways around that too. No#1, just don't go where you know they're at monitoring you. That simple. If you think you just can't avoid them, you're absolutely wrong.


We are already in a Dictatorship. Haven't you noticed it yet? It can be stopped. The question is, "Will it be stopped?" I guess it's fair to say that amny people don't believe that the powers are in numbers. If more people stand up for their rights, the more rights they will get to keep.

The difference between CCTV and FRID is simple.
CCTV = Is a camera device, normally installed on walls, poles, and even hidden, to watch you, while you're in the view of the camera lens. It can not monitor you outside of the camera view.

RFID = Tracking device. This device is put in almost anything now, and it tracks you, where ever you go, as long as you have that device with you. Because the technology in many (most) types of RFID, it's easy to track you because of the Latitude & Longitude of such device. You can be tracked to within feet/inches if you have an RFID device with you.

If you work in an environment where there are hidden cameras all over the place, especially in rest rooms, then you need to quit and (or) report them, because that IS illegal to do such. Also, if you feel that you need to keep any job, knowing that they're literally spying on you while at work,.. then it's fair to say that as long as you've probably been using computers, you've never figured out it's full potential. Because if you did, you go out like a trooper and just work for yourself, using your computer. It's actually that simple. My last job in the corporate world was around 2001. And to this day, I never looked back. I make more money working out of my own home, for myself, ... serving many people, and providing many services. But... everyone is different, and I know that too. But I feel different about computer users. We have a talent/gift, a way to work for ourselves, and have more time to do what we really want and need to do and get out of life. That's me. And I know... "Everybody isn't you.".. I agree.



If you've read every post, you should have noticed that a solution was in the very first post. It's not hidden. Also, it's not beating the system. That phrase implies that a person is doing something that is illegal. It's called preserving what's left of your privacy. And the truth is... you can. You just have to be willing to do so. You have to be willing to take back your life. you have to be willing to know that you're in control, and if you're not in control, it surely isn't them. They don't control me. Never had. Never will.

I know there are many great benefits in technology, and even new technology, but that is no reason to accept the fact that it will invade on your privacy, and we should all get used to it. It's called double-think. You accept something that violates your rights, but you accept it. Double-think.

Don't get so caught up in the technological wave where you just don't see and notice all of your liberties being wiped away. You have choices to make, so make them wisely. Don't double-talk, nor double-think. It's very unhealthy. And besides, you can always do the right thing... if this is the attitude our children are to have, then we not only screwed ourselves, but we took them down in the process.

I don't know about any of you, but I don't function like that. My rights are no more, nor, no less than the next man.... and no man will ever convince me of that.

Walkman,You are fighting to save something you no longer have to enjoy.
Your Freedom and Privacy.We are Screwed.

I think you've had too much fear pumped into your cranium.

You can continue to think that... but I'm not screwed. You may think that we are screwed,,,,, think for yourself on that one. There are things that you simply don't know... yet you fear and confirm the fear of your not knowing. You must not have much faith. But I do. I live on it. I thrive on it. And faith makes me stronger and wiser as each day I get to wake up to see that day.

I can see that you say what you say because they have put so much fear into you, you'll do anything that they say to do, just so they don't do anything to you...... but in the end......... they'll do it anyway. I fear no man. I fear only GOD. I know the things that are being done. I know about many things that are going to come to pass. I know. I've seen those things happening long ago. But I never said that there isn't anything to stop it.

I'm not surprised by your last post for many reasons........... and that is man has been believed for so long to live in fear. Man feels that to live in fear and comply, you won't die.. or at least not as quickly as others that have no fear, nor comply. That's all we think about.. dying, dying,,, dying. We're all gonna die one day. It's as simple as that. Once you accept that..... life is just a stop-over. We're just borrowing our bodies. We have to return them back to the ground.

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
We may live here now, but dying we must.



When I made this thread, my point was to inform everyone of the tracking being put in everyday consumer products, and to inform everyone of it as to what actions they may take to stop it from invading them. Here are points to consider, and it'll back every company in the world in the corner, if everyone took part in it.

1. Stop shopping at places known to track consumers.
2. Stop buying products that are known to track consumers. Every manufacturer in the world will hate it so much, they'll stop doing it. But I know... you can't live without that product.... right?
3. Write to the manufacturers and protest their actions.
4. Boycott RFID products
5. Inform others of it, and the potential danger it poses
6. Remove the RFID from products you've bought, and dispose of them in a far away location.
7. Remind yourself that your privacy is yours, and no one elses'.
8. Remind yourself that it's not illegal to remove and dispose of RFID chips in anything you purchase. And speaking of that, there are alot of manufacturers and retailers informing people of the products that are RFID'd, and then providing them with ways to dispose of them. This is info in case you didn't know. Everyone isn't screwed... and that's because so many people spoke out against this practice, and they threatened to never buy from them again, and then to top it off, inform others about it.

The only thing that I have pumped into my head,Walkman,is Knowledge.Read my post#41 again real slow.I stated that I don't care how much they watch me.I can't read fear in any of my posts.What I do do is adapt to my surroundings and enjoy life.I think you are the one that's fearful,otherwise you wouldn't be obsessed with this subject,and write some of the longest Posts in BC's SpeakEasy.Don't feel safe in your home for one minute.Have you heard and read about Thermal Imagining Cameras that can see your every move inside your house,or the latest listening devices,to name two.The PC is one of the least safe items to have in your home.You encrypt an email,they can be opened easily by Ciber Crims.Also Gov intelligence open these emails at will.BC for example have memory of everything I do on the forum.My internet prov has records of all my surfing habits,so don't tell me for one second its so safe to run a business from home.
Lets be realistic,if we were to completely shun everything that kept a record of our lifestyle,we had better start looking for another planet to live on.Your Cell phone is trackable,so better throw that in the river also.Everything you pay for with cards gives information to whoever has access to the information.Many Gov dept's and utility suppliers actually charge you a fee here if you pay cash.Electronic payment is the way everything is geared today.
No Walkman,I fear no man and I am actually enjoying life.I blend in with society instead of trying to fight it.
This Post is not intended to flame you in any way,merely giving my opinion.

The same here. Besides reading post no#41..... read post no#1. I do care if they watch everything I do. did you ever hear of "building a profile" of someone?..... just for living their everyday, normal life? I have. And you have no right to know everything about me. And guess what?... If you do know what you know about me, and I didn't want you to know it about me, you didn't get it from me directly. My privacy is my privacy.

Fear comes in many forms. I inform others of the possible fears they may face, whether reading, seeing, hearing, or doing. Fear is common, but it's not healthy to fear. And I don't.

And the suggestion as to adapt to your surroundings and enjoy life?... You adapt to what's right, not just your surroundings. If your surroundings aren't right.... move.... and make it right. Right?


I'm not kicking myself, if that's what you meant. And I'm not obsessed with the subject, I created it. You're the one obsessed if you keep coming back for more. Wouldn't you agree?

I talk alot, and have done many speeches, so being the longest BC poster or such is a compliment to me. At least I'll try to give everyone something to read and think about. I at least try my best to be open minded on any subject.

Ohhh, before I forget, I've read the rules and regulations here.... and besides, before a Speak Easy subject is viewable to the public, it must be approved by the admin. At least all of mine have been. So.... the bottom line on that, if they allow/allowed it, and i'm in order with the code/conduct of this site, everything I say is alright. If not, they would have pulled my posts by now....... ssshooooott,,, they would have banned my account if it was the way you say. I know my posts are long. I am a great tolerater.. because I've heard it all.. so now I say it all. Are you?

As far as listening devices?...... I have a degree in Electronics Engineering Technology. Yes,... I know much about them. Do you? I know about them all. I have some. I've built some. I've designed some. Yes, I know about them... and I'm laughing, because this thread is about monitoring you and your actions. What a coincidence.

For one thing, I don't encrypt anything, and that's because I have nothing to hide. But on the same subject, you can mask what you do online. For one,, you must be admitting that you use your isp's email account they setup for you. Wrong move!... You'd have to be an uninformed computer user to use an email address that an isp gives to you, with your account. Yeah right. That dog won't hunt. And if I was to encrypt anything, I'd do it as to where it'll be so much work for them just to decyper. Stop putting all that faith in man. They are human too, just like you and I are. I know about the centers that have multiple computers setup to crack just one code, making it quicker to do...... but many of you that rely on that technique as a scare tactic have never known technology in the beginning. But yes, the method should be used to deter cyber criminals.

Also, I can tell you about some Thermal devices.... not just listening devices, that can see and hear everything you do..... going through feet of concrete walls. Yeah... tell me something I don't know. I've been into technology since I was a child, especially electronics. I'm no easy win.

But read between the lines, and you'll see more than what your eyes are reading. Only then will you get to know me on this level that we're all suppose to be on. When it comes down to technology and electronics?... I'm no joke. I know things I wouldn't even dare tell you about. Not that they're bad for you or your children, but simply..... technology doesn't seem to be your forte. Computers maybe, but technology and electronics.. no.

I would also imagine that you don't know that your cable/dish/ cable box has been for years testing the technology to server you what you like to look at...... yeah. Those cable boxes?... they monitor what channels you watch, and then what you don't watch, and then they serve you up with more content to make you want to keep paying for it. Technology?........ I know waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy more than I'd share here, and that's because there are those that think.... as usual..... "It's for our own good"

Like I say in any post, whether controversial or or not, just do your research. I have nothing to hide..... but I have much to inform others about.

Will any of you do the same? Stop giving fear the glory.

If I missed anything.... be sure to catch it in my next long post, no matter the subject at hand. Except me as I am, and who I am, and what I can bring to the table.

IF and when,all this surveillance gets too much,I'll jump ship and go back to basics.By that I mean an alternate lifesyle.In the 40's we had no mod cons whatsoever and we survived quite well.More labour intensive,so what.Had a farm,grew most of the food and meat,and used the barter system all the time.Only went to town once a month for absolute essentials.
No phone,electricity,nothing.Preserved season produce,smoked and salted meat,grew all fruit and veg's.
No poisons in the water,or the food whatsoever.Done it before,can do it again,and no doubt we would live longer.Maybe a bit off topic but showing what the alternative has to offer.If nothing has tracking devices in,it makes it all the more harder for the Gov to know what I'm doing.
The barter system is quite fun really.

Yeahhhhhhh..... now that's the DSTM I'm talking about!

You hit the nail right on the head. I knew you had it in you, but you were being too modest about it. Shame on you That post there made me think again too. And 1,000,000% of that post is 1,000,000% true. That's what I'm talking about. Now..... knowing is only half the battle.

Many things you talk about I've been preparing for for years now.

I don't shop at certain places I once did.
I don't use any store savings card at all.
When I do use my credit/debit card, I'm safe, because there is a place where you can legally buy them ($10) and have any name you want on them. Since i've been studying law most of my life, as long as I'm putting my own cash on the card, not using it for illegal purposes, and not committing any kind of fraud, so, it's perfectly legal. Besides, the store that sells them only asks where you want it sent to and your $10. Talking about privacy?... yeah... I like that one. I have quite a few of them too.
I don't use any bank accounts at all. I can show you a government report that specifically explains how you, nor your money is safe in any banking institution. Again, this comes from the government themself.
I save all seeds from fruits and vegetables, mainly from Farmers Markets and such. Read about Monsanto, and soon you'll see why.

Also, as long as you barter your way through life, there is nothing legally the IRS, nor government can do to you. You're not touching their printed paper money. I barter all the time, and I have business dealings with others that I pay them in gold. I do use paper money, but the gold gets you more, considering how much the value of it goes up, and never down. Go to the right places, and they'll be glad to accept gold from you in exchange for whatever.

If we got back into bartering, with gold/silver and such, the economy would be as perfect as living conditions would allow. But we all know who wants their cut out of the deal. The same goes as filing taxes (1040), filling out the Census Forms, and other tactics out there that are only meant to track and monitor you. Move as much away as possible from the spotlight, and you'll live a much happier life.

Do you think they track/monitor the homeless? Not really. And that is because the government feels that they have nothing to go after. And at the same time, many homeless people said that they are the way they are is to get away from all of the unlafullness of the government. And it works for them too. A homeless person isn't monitored like the everyday bill paying, working person is. Besides, what can the government do to anyone that doesn't work (filing a W2, W4, 1040)? Nothing. They're not on the books at all.

But do as you can do to separate yourself from the spotlight. It's very easy to disappear, yet live a fulfilling life if you choose to do so. I have a book called How To Become Completely Invisible (banned) and it gives you everything you need to know about not being tracked and monitored. Everything in it is legal, but it was banned because that's the methods the FBI uses to put people in the Witness Protection Program. Actually, level 4 is the WPP, but the other levels below it serves the same purpose. And my only guess is that they don't want people being untrackable, and so they banned it. Too late, because I already have it. The wealth of information the Internet brings.

But understand the techniques that are used to put in products, and other means just to keep tabs on you. They can't even keep track of loose criminals, but yet and still, they want to track innocent people. I just don't get that one.

OOohhhhhhhhh,,, speaking of tracking (as this topic was created)........ check this out.......

One day someone was out of jail on probation, after serving 18 months. They put a tracking device on him to monitor his where-abouts...... one day he decided to not go to the probation office, and pretty much went AWOL on them. Do you know that when they (probation officer) came looking for him, ,, he went to where the man was supposed to be living. They said they haven't seen him in days. So the probation officer called in to a monitoring center (yeah right)... and then he said to them I need you to put a trace on so-n-so (real name protected). After a few minutes of the Probation Officer being on his cell phone, he hangs up the phone and then he said this.... We're not able to track him.

My point?.... well...... what the heck are they doing putting those devices on people and yet they can't track them? I have believed since then that those tracking devices are meant to only scare someone into complying with demands. Some people may need it done to them. But it made me think that the tracking devices are just scams, making people live in fear and misery. They couldn't even find the man, yet they had a tracking device on him.

Another point?....... what's the use in having them put on people anyway, when they can't actually track the person down? They can monitor you within a few feet from your home, where the device is installed into the phone wire..... but if you should leave your home, you're as good as not being monitored at all, because you're not being monitored any longer. So why have it? It doesn't work. It's just a scare tactic to make people comply. And everyone wearing a bracelet/anklet, isn't guilty of the crime that put them in that position anyway. Talking about bogus?... that's one if I never hear about another one.

Oh dear, I suspect I truly must be missing something along the way here - gentle sigh.

While I do think it's really stinky that some cars have been sold without telling the purchasers that there are 'tracking devises' in them - and think sticking these same type of things on the objects mentioned in earlier posts are shoddy to say the least, there are some things I honestly don't see the harm in.

Cameras at work (not in the bathroom) sadly make sense (some employees have wee sticky fingers and there are also security measures to be considered.

Cameras in public areas such as streets or parks or arenas, etc - these are public places and one should behave.

Cameras that snap a photo of cars speeding through red lights, etc - if one doesn't speed, one needn't worry, surely? And should there be an accident and a difference of opinion as to who is at fault, the camera may be our 'best friend'.

I do agree there are times when it truly seems like it's no one's business and we should have more privacy, but surely there are some things, such as I mentioned above, where cameras are not invading our privacy, merely making public areas safer for all?

P.S. Walkman, I did take a peek at a website re "Monsanto" but still don't quite understand about how saving all the seeds from fruits and veggies is related to privacy? Sorry if I'm seeming awfully 'duh' tonight.

I believe there will always be conjecture on the Personal Privacy issue.How can consensus be reached when everybody has a different opinion as to what constitutes invasion of Privacy.Most cameras are placed in an area for a reason,and its the illegal ones that annoy me.I have found the persons that complain the most about legitimate Cameras are the ones with something to hide.I know Camera Pictures can be used against you in a Court of Law.So what is the problem with that, if you are not breaking the law?Police have Cameras and Sound to get an incident on Film,so long Court Battles are reduced to a minimum.Personally,I haven't got a problem with being on Camera, maybe a thousand times a day in the City,Footpaths, Shops,Streets,Parks,Trains,Buses,Ferry,Subways,Tunnells,whatever.I would have a problem being identified on camera, if I was trying to escape from the law,having broken the Law.