See discussions in Ie7 Final Due In October post.

The browser download is 14.8MB.
Regards,
John

And its not even 24 hours into the official release and there has been a vulnerability!

"you wanted it easier and more secure" -microsoft download page for IE 7

http://secunia.com/Internet_Explorer_Arbit...erability_Test/

I downloaded it last night. About to install it now.

"The fool hath said in his heart, "There is no IE7 vulnerability."
I just finished downloading it, but will hold off installing it for a few days until I check some software compatibility issues.
Cheers,
John

I won't be able to download it until Sunday at the earliest, because that is when I will get my new computer! Even so, I am leary about security holes; I may wait a while until I install it on a brand new PC.

I am awaiting Firefox 2.0 with much more enthusiasm. It's due very soon now.
Regards,
John

http://www.techweb.com/wire/security/19340...LPCKHSCJUNN2JVN


October 19, 2006



First Flaw Found In IE 7 Hours After Browser's Launch
A security intelligence company is warning users of the new browser's first official bug. Secunia says that IE 7 contains a 'less critical' flaw that can be used by identity thieves and other criminals to snatch confidential information from a PC.- Oct 19, 2006

So what is the verdict...to block or not to block?
I'm with jgweed and anxiously awaiting the release of Firefox 2.0, but is IE6 going to support Windows updates without issues and just for how long?

And, is IE7 more or less secure than IE 6 SP1. There is no doubt that IE 6 SP1 has security holes even with all the patches, at least that is my understanding. I don't use IE that much, but for some sites I have to - such as on-line security scans and some of my program updates.

Given the fact that there is the option to block the update, I would think that Windows Updates would still be supported through IE 6

Orange Blossom

Good point Orange Blossom,but aren't there foreseeable problems in the future?

Just a thought.....
The good thing about us dial up users downloading the update when its offered,is because it's huge at 14.8MB,it will just d/l when we are connected to the internet.We won't ever have to worry about d/ling this huge update in the future if and when we have to for whatever reason.
Doesn't mean we have to use it except for updates,right?
I'm so on the fence about this!

I, like you, use IE strickly for Windows updates and some on line scans.

Since IE7 will only with Windows XP and the new Vista, I would suspect that MS will continue to support IE6 for some time with its usual round of security patches; not to do so will force many users into the arms of alternate browsers---something that MS is not eager to do (hence the rush to make IE7 caused by competition and losing market share).

I will certainly wait until a patch is issued for the NEW IE7 vulnerability before I install it. Since IE (either version) is STILL hooked into the Windows Operating System, it cannot be deleted, and either must be kept patched.

Cheers,
John

How about this for a plan. Wait till March to decide whether to switch to IE7. You want be alone. There are thousands of businesses with thousands of computers each that want be switching any time soon.
There are still sites that don't work well with IE7 and does anyone doubt that there are going to be other serious problems to pop up in the next few months? That is not being pessimistic, but realistic.
Firefox will be out soon with FF2. I may wait a while to download that one, too. That is my two cents.

The security vulnerability is not actually in IE7, but in OE instead.
Since IE7 doesn't include a new version of OE, it's just another problem with an old app.

Information on Reports of IE 7 Vulnerability

IE will always have problems, whether you download it now or in the future.
So.... holding off will not really make a lot of difference, will it??
IE6 has had loads of problems...... IE7 will be no different.
That's the nature of MS........ a hackers dream.
I've been using the new 'Firefox' 2 RC2 release for awhile now, not much difference to the old version...... but a lot of extensions are not working with it yet.

Well one thing IE 7 has I have liked since I used beta 1 is being able to hit a x and the tab close out. Much simpler than a right click and then scroll and click again.

I read firefox 2.0 will have this and I cant wait.

Firefox 2.0 is to be released this Tuesday, the 24th.

http://slashdot.org/articles/06/10/22/1823246.shtml
Regards,
John

If you have a center wheel on your mouse, use that to close tabs.
Just click the tab you want to close, with the center wheel.
No right clicking, and scrolling, necessary.

For the longest time (since 1989), I've been using Microsoft products, and I can say this much.

Since I've been introduced to Firefox in 2005 (in 199? I've used Netscape), but back to Internet Explorer, I've discovered using my virus scan softwares, along with my video tutorial software to record my actions, and other software tools, that Internet Explorer is a "haven" for viruses, trojans, active-x, worms, and (or) otherwise malicious harm inflicted on a computer user, while using ANY Internet Explorer versions.

I have video tutorials to prove it. Because I wanted to find out why these occurances were happeneing all the time. All of these utilities, and software tools are useless using IE. And the way it's being explained to people all over the world that uses IE, they're being talked to as though they need to be computer technicians just to browse the internet. And so many softwares have come out, it's even hard to decide what software is really needed to stop all of the "chaos" with the computer intrusions/attacks.

I can tell you all this much to help every single person to reduce their likelyhood of getting any of the malicious attacks on their computers.

1. Unless you're a webmaster, and (or) you have to compare web sites,,, DO NOT USE INTERNET EXPLORER... at all. You don't need it.
2. Uninstall/stop using Windows Media Player
3. Uninstall/stop using RealPlayer
4. Uninstall/stop using iTunes.
5. Turn OFF your "Windows Automatic Updates". Don't believe the hype about the security. Your security is being breached EVERYTIME you allow software to be automatically updated and installed on your computer, (without you even knowing it.. meaning, while you sleep or whatever). This computer I'm on right now hasn't been updated since 11/28/2005. and it's running it perfect shape. Stop letting them spy on you. You choose to update, but don't let them dictate how much and what will be installed on your computer. Once you allow it, you're waiving your rights to your privacy and Internet privacy. If you have to, unplug your wire to your computer where there is NO Internet connection when you're NOT on it.

Besides no#1 being a haven for what is mentioned above, all the rest of those programs track your activities. GET RID OF THEM Every time you use any and every one of those programs, they "phone-home" there are programs out there that are FREE that completely replaces all of them.

But back to this new IE7.... I'll never touch touch it. They are tricking everyone to think they're improving it, but at the same time getting you to be confindent enough to allow them to constantly spy and embedd malicious trash on your computers. They are desperate, and morality isn't their issue. And I'm sure many of you really know that too.

Firefox is a 100% bonafide way...... compared to Internet Explorer (any version) being 20%. I don't even know what it's like to have a popup anymore, almost 2 years now.... thanks to Firefox. IE has that selection to block popup's, but they don't stop them, and mainly because IE and their corp., don't want their advertisements missing your screen. I promise all of you. I haven't seen a popup at all in at least 2 years now. and that's because I use Firefox. Even Netscape is better and more secure than IE, it's just that IE has more "market share". Big deal.

Firefox has addon's that I use like:
Show IP (shows the ip of any website you visit)
No Scripts (IE won't go for that one)
Tabbed Browsing (allows you to open another window without cluttering up your taskbar)
Colorful Tabs (each window opened will have a different color.. upto 32 windows)
Spoofstick (a simple way to detect spoofed websites)

and HUNDREDS of more add ons that you can add to the Firefox browser. IE will never create and (or) implement at least 30% of these add ons... because it'll hurt them big time.

Although I'm new here according to my posts... . I'm not new to the Internet/computer scene at all. I've been doing this for some years.

Over 75%+ of the problems I've read throughout the forums I'm a part of on the Internet (plenty of them), those problems all had one thing in common....... the users all were using Internet Explorer. For many and most experts out there, there should be NO PROBLEM at all doing what is called a "process-of-elimination". I ask you all to consider trying Firefox, and see. If you want, I can point you to web sites that WILL infect your computer (with/without virus scan protection using IE), and the same sites that won't affect you at all while using Firefox (using at least the addon called No Scripts (that's how computers are mainly infected) you'll not need all of the junk software out there that puts you into more of a bad situation).

This is my take on IE because I've been on the computers since 1989, but on the Internet since the early-to-mid '90's. I was loyal to IE... not anymore. And if many of you at least give it a test run and try a different browser than IE, I can assure you that many of your computer/browsing problems will go away.... especially after you fix the problem first. and I mean completely eliminate them from their source.


Walkman
One Man's Opinion

New version of Internet Explorer is COOL.
I have downloaded it.
I use Mozilla Firefox and Netscape too and i have the newest versions at http://browser.netscape.com/ns8/
andhttp://www.firefox2006.com/gonz.htm
Firefox Free 2006 Version

Members wishing to download Firefox2.0 should use the download provided by Mozilla, which is the public release of the product:

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/

Regards,
John

I have installed the new Ie7 browser in my computers and is a excellent. I find it efficient, clean and safe to use.

I dont, i think its awful, really dont like the new look of it. The fact that you cant put the file menu at the top of the screen is driving me crazy. Tabs are ok if you want them, but theres not even a way to turn them off.
I also find it quite slow and sluggish.
I much preferred IE6, but i guess its just gonna take some gettin used to.

This is from a victim I have been helping in the HijackThis forum. Those with older versions of Norton or other Internet Security programs, proceed with caution.

Note IE7 also breaks older versions of MusicMatch and WMP. Uninstalling IE7 restores these player to functionality.

I think Microsoft would get a lot better support if they made an entirely new browser. Not IE 8 or anything. An entirely new, faster, pop-up free browser. It'll get all the IE users to use it and some FF users would switch over.

Well, see, the problem with that is it would make too much sense...can't have that, now can we?

I still haven't installed IE7...I'm afraid at the havoc it will cause on my OS...besides, I've got Firefox; and since I use IE6 to update Windows, I don't see a need to install IE7.

Downloaded IE7 this morning.

The next two things I noticed were:

1. The links in my incoming messages (I use Thunderbird), e.g. bleepingcomputer messages, didn't work anymore;
2. Pawsoft didnt work anymore; I couldn't even start it.

The solution to my problems appearde to be simple: uninstall IE7.

Avid FF user. Have IE for those times you have to have it. I'm not planning on getting IE7 for a long time, if ever. For one thing, am I understanding correctly that you can't get IE7 without also installing WMP11? If it installs WMP automatically, forget it! I'll never "upgrade" to IE7.

I have XP Home updated to SP2. I haven't used WMP for a long time. The first time I clicked a media file, it "offered" to install WMP9. I haven't used WMP in years and have usually just disabled all the settings to get it out of the way. I don't know why it isn't installed, but I said, "Hell, no!" when I saw that dialog box come up.

I use the media player classic that comes with the XP Codec Pack as my default player and I have had very few problems playing any media on or off line. I'm not a big media fan. I don't do online games, work with lots of pictures, video, music, creating and editing, etc. So I don't need or want the bloat of WMP. If I do have a specific need to handle some kinds of media, I'll find a 3rd party program to do it.

I have hidden any WMP updates and patches at Windows Update so I don't install it accidentally.

Just so WMP doesn't mess up my system with something partially installed and waiting for me to click the install now button, I have left the folder in My Programs. It's not very big. Then I removed the most visible shortcuts for it. Out of sight, out of mind. Works for me.

I've installed IE7 on one PC with a trading program that requires IE. Didn't require any WMP change tho.

right now its crap!!

IE 7 caused a glitch in my wifes user account ever since I upgraded...but not in my User account

When the desktop is loading, and not even when I open the IE 7 browser, an Internet Script Error pops up

Also her Outlook Express wont let me select it as a Default...no matter how many times I go into Options and select it..

So whenever I try to click on an email hyperlink in a webpage it freezes

Also script errors pop up all the time and cant even browse

But when I deleted IE 7 and went back to IE 6 all was well with no script errors...but still OUtlook Express wont become a default mail client

I called Microsoft and after 1 hr 1/2 they couldnt figure it out and decided to call me back after their "team" takes a look at my case and come up with "an answer" to my problem...WOW

Havent heard from them yet and dont plan on hearing for Rhadya anytime soon....so Im going to delete IE all in all and go with Firefox and Thunderbird....Ive heard great things about them.

I have been using IE7 for a few weeks now without a single problem. I have about half of the 50 users I support switched over with no problem. No conflicts with any AV software, email applications, nada. I like the clean interface. I like the full page zoom. Like any other product, RTFM time is time well spent.

I got it about the same time as WMP11. They're both pretty nice. Hard to get used to, though. Also, HTML is slightly changed from IE6, so when working with some sizes you need to be careful and remember that a lot of people still use 6.

Remember this forum? Firefox 2 VS Internet Explorer 7

Firefox 2 is much better that ie7 so stay with firefox and don't bother downloading ie7.