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unloaded
I have started using utorrent few days ago, and it is a good program, however I had one torrent that I wanted to download but it has no seeds at all and only 2 peers, my downloading speed was "25b/s", which was incredibly slow, comparing to my average download speed is 48kb/s, a huge difference.

are there any ways to download the torrent abit faster?

apart from that, utorrent is a good program for downloading torrents, believe me, I've compared it to Bitcomet, Bittorrent and Azureus, from dowload speed to the easiest to use.

I need help!!
unloaded
hello? anyone can help? I've been downloading this torrent for 23days already, more than 9 hours per day.
groovicus
If it is anything like any other p2p application (if I am understanding your problem), the peers set the upload speed, and has nothing to do with you at all. If it is really a program that you need, then you will just have to wait for it.
AmBush
QUOTE(unloaded @ Jul 6 2006, 08:58 AM) *
I have started using utorrent few days ago,
Good Choice thumbup2.gif

QUOTE(unloaded @ Jul 6 2006, 08:58 AM) *
are there any ways to download the torrent abit faster?
Simple Answer is No.


You get what your given.
What you gottta remember is in my book there are THREE types of peer
  1. The Seeder until nobody wants it thumbup2.gif Who wants to Up his ratio
  2. The Solo thumbup.gif
  3. The Grabber aka Leech thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
1. Now the seeder is a good sort they'll seed ANYTHING just to get thier ratio up, only problem is if they seed 30 files on a 256 upload that means each file is getting a % (Not gonna try figure it wink.gif )

2. The Solo there the best they'll get one file and once they have it will seed JUST that file on a 256 up better speed for you donloading it off 25 of them w00t.gif

3. The Grabber ranting2.gif censored2.gif nono.gif


Having said that some torrent apps Do adjust your download according to the speed your upload i downloaded a patch once and when i restricted my upload the download slowed.
Klinkaroo
Are you behind a firewall or router. I know that if you have a router you can try forwarding a few ports... Go to Options>Speed Guide

BTW where do you guys get your torrents from I have been having a hard time finding a good site.
rms4evr
It sounds like you are indeed behind a network router. You need to open up some ports to get more peers, which may get you faster download speeds. Almost everything you need to know is here:

http://www.portforward.com/

Its a lot of reading, but by the time you are done, you will be an expert!!! lmfao.gif

Klinkaroo, you can just google "torrents" and get a whole bunch of sites...be warned, though...a lot of those torrent sites offer bootlegged content...you'll be up to your armpits in it. hysterical.gif
noelckc
Kilngaroo WWW.TORRENTSPY.COM is a really good site that offers good and health and seeded and peered seeds. To the original post, unloaded, try using different programs IE LIMEWIRE,BEARSHARE to get your desired video/mp3 file/etc.
unloaded
ok, thank you guys
unloaded
are there any patches that can disable the restrictions on downloading while uploading? Because when I use Utorrent, the download can slowdown according to my uploading speed sometimes.
unloaded
any ideas?
Yourhighness
QUOTE(noelckc @ Jul 19 2006, 11:47 AM) *
...try using different programs IE LIMEWIRE,BEARSHARE to get your desired video/mp3 file/etc.
Please be aware that a lot of these tools bring adware / spyware with them...
QUOTE
are there any patches that can disable the restrictions on downloading while uploading? Because when I use Utorrent, the download can slowdown according to my uploading speed sometimes.
http://wiki.depthstrike.com/index.php/UTorrent:FAQ
http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=3912
http://www.johntp.com/2006/04/19/how-to-in...ds-of-utorrent/

rgds,

Johannes
unloaded
thank you
unloaded
the tweak test is very useful, my download became smoother after tweaking the tcp and etc.
unloaded
Use Fullspeed, its not bad.
unloaded
my firewall was really annoying as well, its so complicated to set the right thing for torrent downloading. It always slows my download down. does anyone use looknstop firewall p3? can you tell me how to set edit a rule? I read help but did not understand it.
unloaded
use Bt helper its very good indeed, it supports any torrent downloading programs and finds more seeds for you!! Unbelievable
unloaded
when does the new version of Utorrent come out? can't wait.
unloaded
you can download torrents using limewire 4.13.0 beta now, how amazing.
theguy
Piracy is bad.... dry.gif
Walkman
QUOTE(theguy @ Nov 12 2006, 07:43 PM) *
Piracy is bad.... dry.gif

I agree with that.....

But using torrent clients doesn't make a person pirating anything. As a matter of fact, more and more legit software sources are now starting to offer you the .torrent version of their software.

I guess it's safe to say that everyone in the world that talks about a torrent client is alleged to be a software pirate. Please don't be one of those that are looking on one side of the fence. There is nothing wrong with using torrent clients. It's what you use it for, that can be wrong.
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I've been torrenting myself... (yep,, I had to get in on the new way of downloading).... but if you're using a good client, and you have good Internet speed, and your setting are correct and adequate for what you're doing.... you can try and try all day long, and your downloads aren't going to go any faster. There are many factors you have to take into consideration like:

firewalls
ip blocking
software stability
how many users on that torrent
and for each of those users..... everything above I just mentioned.

I've had files that took minutes, hours, days, weeks, and months... just to download. The only thing you can do is go on with your daily activities and wait for the download to finish. I've been on countless forums, read everything in the world on torrenting.... and it boils down to this...... wait for it to finish,,, or just don't continue with the torrent.

There are however a few tricks of the trade to get your torrents running pretty fast, but that depends on your services logs. Inside it'll tell you if you're maxing out on your connections and it could partially be part of slow downloads.

But from my experience of torrenting... you just have to wait. And I'm sorry if you're on dialup. If you are, you shouldn't even be torrenting at all.

Did you know that a single file comes from many people? So you're not just getting that file from one source, but many.... and if you're on a slow connection, you may be causing others to have to wait to get parts from you before their downloads can continue at a faster speed.

Sometimes when it comes to talking about torrents in general, I feel like I wrote the book on it. I just have that much experience with using those clients.

There are many sources out there to get all the information you need concerning torrenting, and I highly suggest each and everyone of you to exercise that.

Remember this:.... You have to be lucky EVERY TIME.... but they only have to get lucky just one time.

And a lot of the places some of you seem to be using to get torrents.... you're giving them all the ammunition they need to catch you. I can name them all for you... they're going to get you caught out there. Just give it time. Those industries who's against peer-2-peer are infiltrating those sites and sources for torrents... and if you're not using the correct blocking tools, all I can say is this.."Oh Well".

Take time to read security issues, updates on those companies that are fighting online piracy, and other sources, and you'll soon see that you're probably on their "To Do" list. I'm only telling you this so you don't have to say no one told you so. It's not what you do, it's how you do what you do.

Protect yourselves.

Oh... I know this thread was started as "How To Get More Seeds in uTorrent?"... so let me answer it for you. You can't. You can't get people to connect to you if they don't want to share with you. You can't get more seeds if they're not online. Seeds are people that have the complete file. And if they're not online... you just have to wait for them to come online. And then you have seeders out there that are using protection to block the enemy from connecting to their computer, so if your ip is on that banned/blocked list...... guess what?... you'll never connect to that seeder. Now think if all of those seeders are using protection (as they should).... they all may be blocking you. It depends. But there is not pure science to it at all.


You might be connecting to an **AA sting operation and won't even know it. Get it or get out of doing it.
unloaded
but I found BT Helper did actually add more seeds or peers. I have tested it a few time over the last six months.
Walkman
Probably so,,, but be careful, and at least protect yourself from unwanted connections to your computer.
unloaded
what do you mean by unwanted connections? I thought its just like downloading files, that I only have to care about whether the torrents contains viruses or not.
Walkman
QUOTE(unloaded @ Nov 21 2006, 11:48 PM) *
what do you mean by unwanted connections? I thought its just like downloading files, that I only have to care about whether the torrents contains viruses or not.

What I mean is this.. When you download whatever... although nothing is 100% certain, but are you sure that you're NOT connecting to the **AA? Who are they?... They are the RIAA and the MPAA.... if you don't know about them.. you better, and real quick,, because they may already know about you.

You can atleast block the known ip's of those corporations by using PeerGuardian 2 or similar. Basically, no matter what you use, PeerGuardian won't interfere with much of any of your programs. You can get it here: http://methlabs.org . It's designed for privacy protection and p2p users.

I have to tell you this too. It's very effective in blocking unwanted connections (**AA, agencies, trackers, etc).

Go get you one:
http://methlabs.org
unloaded
oright, thanks for that.
mangosteen
sometimes my utorrent hangs up on my computer and the computer wouldn't shut down. not even after half an hour.

it normally happens when i run lots of programs at one time. is this the problem ?

thank you.
idk
25kb/s isn't that bad. Once i was downloading a 500mb file and the fasted it ever went was 14kb/s. when i did finish downloading the file ( it was a game) it didn't work sad.gif .
Walkman
QUOTE(mangosteen @ Nov 24 2006, 05:13 AM) *
sometimes my utorrent hangs up on my computer and the computer wouldn't shut down. not even after half an hour.

it normally happens when i run lots of programs at one time. is this the problem ?

thank you.


Depending on your computers resources (RAM, CPU, etc).. running multiple programs while downloading can cause the hanging on shutting down. What you need to do is a system cleanup.... like defragging, deleting old files (system wide),, removing junk you don't need. Extra RAM wouldn't hurt either. Clear out your cache, and everything else you need to.

But if your computer hangs on shutdown, because you're downloading, then you have probably hogged up all of your resources. Just limit the programs you're using while downloading and see if that helps. Another way to see what's going on is to download, and then open up your Task Manager, and see if something is hogging up your resources.

Tell me you're NOT using Internet Explorer.
Walkman
QUOTE(mangosteen @ Nov 24 2006, 05:13 AM) *
sometimes my utorrent hangs up on my computer and the computer wouldn't shut down. not even after half an hour.

it normally happens when i run lots of programs at one time. is this the problem ?

thank you.


Depending on your computers resources (RAM, CPU, etc).. running multiple programs while downloading can cause the hanging on shutting down. What you need to do is a system cleanup.... like defragging, deleting old files (system wide),, removing junk you don't need. Extra RAM wouldn't hurt either. Clear out your cache, and everything else you need to.

But if your computer hangs on shutdown, because you're downloading, then you have probably hogged up all of your resources. Just limit the programs you're using while downloading and see if that helps. Another way to see what's going on is to download, and then open up your Task Manager, and see if something is hogging up your resources.

Tell me you're NOT using Internet Explorer.
Walkman
QUOTE(idk @ Nov 28 2006, 04:18 AM) *
25kb/s isn't that bad. Once i was downloading a 500mb file and the fasted it ever went was 14kb/s. when i did finish downloading the file ( it was a game) it didn't work sad.gif .


Yeah... but how long did it take?

There are many factors to consider when downloading using torrent clients, and the most mis-concepted talk is that something is wrong with the Internet speed in which you're using. It could be the case, but many times it's simply how many connections/peers/seeders you're connected to that matters on how your download will go. If you torrent enough, you'll develop a clear understanding of how the downloading works.

Do like I've done... months in and months out, I would monitor my downloads,, just watching the peers.. the seeders,, the upload/download speeds and other factors. I've gotten enough home training to know torrents very well.

Depending on the file size you're downloading... the best experience you'll get from torrenting is if you have broadband+. That includes the broadband and T1, T3, etc... high speeds. Anything less than that, you simply have to wait it out. I've just finished a 98M file that took a couple of days to download. It's not so much of my Internet speed, it's just that the others (seeders) weren't online,,, and I just had to let it run until they came online,,, went offline,, came online,, went offline.. and so forth,, until it finished. That's the trade-off, price you pay when you torrent. Although I haven't always had this pleasure, but I now have 3 separate computers running at the same time, so now I've always have something to keep me occupied while I'm torrenting.

All in all, you either have to be patient enough to wait it out, or get faster Internet access. Sometimes you can do every-single help guide provided on the Internet.... and they just won't work, either because there are no one seeding that file, or your connection is too slow, or they have ip blocking protection.... or it can be all of them together.
unloaded
what is the difference between the number of peers you are connecting to and the number of seeds you have?
Walkman
Depending on the torrent client you're using, peers can be the leechers (ones wanting the file), or it can be a combination of leechers & seeders together.

Although a seeder is the one with the complete file (100%), he is still technically a peer, meaning, one you're connected to.

But, for the sake of telling the difference between leechers and seeders, it's easy. Remember, they're both technically peers.

If you download a torrent and you see that you're connected to 100 peers,,, 30 of them may be actual seeders and the other 70 would be the downloaders/leechers/peers/.

uTorrent has an easy way to see the actual seeders you're connected to and the leechers that you're connected to too. As a matter of fact, every torrent client I've used shows the seeders and the leechers independently.

So... to sum up the question
QUOTE
what is the difference between the number of peers you are connecting to and the number of seeds you have?

If you're connected to 100 peers, only 30 may be the actual seeders (the one's sharing the torrent), but the other 70 are the leechers (the one's wanting the torrent).
Walkman
Depending on the torrent client you're using, peers can be the leechers (ones wanting the file), or it can be a combination of leechers & seeders together.

Although a seeder is the one with the complete file (100%), he is still technically a peer, meaning, one you're connected to.

But, for the sake of telling the difference between leechers and seeders, it's easy. Remember, they're both technically peers.

If you download a torrent and you see that you're connected to 100 peers,,, 30 of them may be actual seeders and the other 70 would be the downloaders/leechers/peers/.

uTorrent has an easy way to see the actual seeders you're connected to and the leechers that you're connected to too. As a matter of fact, every torrent client I've used shows the seeders and the leechers independently.

So... to sum up the question
QUOTE
what is the difference between the number of peers you are connecting to and the number of seeds you have?

If you're connected to 100 peers, only 30 may be the actual seeders (the one's sharing the torrent), but the other 70 are the leechers (the one's wanting the torrent).
unloaded
therefore, is it better to have more seeds or peers? Cuz I realised that when I have no seed but many peers, the download speed is normally very slow, but with many seeds and no peers the download speed is very fast and stable.
Walkman
QUOTE(unloaded @ Dec 13 2006, 06:40 PM) *
therefore, is it better to have more seeds or peers? Cuz I realised that when I have no seed but many peers, the download speed is normally very slow, but with many seeds and no peers the download speed is very fast and stable.

The reason that happens is that no one is seeding to give to the other peers, but the other peers, have more than you do, so you're getting the parts you need from them, until either..

a. the seeders come online and help complete their downloads (leechers =peers), or
b. they(leechers =peers) share with you all they have, but since they have no more to share, the downloads slow down to a stop.

To also make this point too..............
Yes, it's best to have more seeders than leechers (both are peers), but, at the same time, if those other leechers have more of that file complete than you do, you WILL want those other leechers in too, because they'll take the strain off of the seeders and that will make your torrents go faster, and everyone else's too. It's sorta like a chain reaction. One leecher or seeder can affect the whole peer group in a positive or a negative way.

The only way I know for the most part that will still damper your download speed, and that is your isp speed. That's the main factor for you, even though it's important for everyone else at the same time. And make sure your ports are forwarded correctly. Other than that,,,, it's a waiting game.
unloaded
thanks for the help man, I learnt alot.
Walkman
You're quite welcome.
unloaded
hey, I was wondering how does torrent p2p differ to file sharing p2p, such as Bitcomet(torrent) to Limewire(file sharing), because I found limewire alot more stable than downloading torrents.
unloaded
I have currently switched to Bitcomet, it uses alot of cpu resources, however it gives a more stable connection, I went up from 70kb to 150kb with the same torrent file.
UselessObserver
....also remember that between 3pm till about midnight your connection speed will always be bad, i put my torrents up overnight.

also, dont forget to forward ports on your router (switching off the routers internal firewall helps too)


unloaded
im having troubles with bitcomet, it always resets its preferences settings. Am i the only one who has this problem?
PIratE KiNg
HELLO dry.gif Have you ever heard off the Piratebay biggest Torrent site in the world!!!!!...
And if you wish to speed up your utorrent just go to youtube search for how to speed up my utorrent . and pick the most viewed one....
Theyl guide you throug it.
And to make it really fast go to Portforward.com and do portfowrard on yar ports. crazy.gif
Meself i usally download at 500kb/s and uppload at 400kb/s plus when a really SEADED clapping.gif Torrent appears DING DING thumbup2.gif 1000kb/s !!!!!! thumbup.gif
pcmaddeanp
I found a neat trick that will speed up download time.
This is to set the upload speed to 10 kb/s.

Click on uTorrent's not already running.
Click on the 'gear' icon next to the 'RSS feed' icon.
Next, click on 'Connection' on the left.
Then under 'Global Bandwidth Limiting' and 'Upload' change the 'Maximum upload rate' from '0' to '10'.
You will see that the download will go faster and the upload will go slower.

Don't do this if you want to seed the torrents though. I don't seed them.

Hope this helps thumbup2.gif
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