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John S
Can someone tell me how I can move 3d animated GIfs photos and them steal work, are can it be done. You you need a program to do it? thanks John S
stevealmighty
Hmm....unless I'm mistaken, I believe that .gif's are not 3d. They're simply pictures displayed in frames much like a movie that create a motion-like apperance.

For "moving" them, do you mean saving them then viewing them later on (like emailing them to others and letting them view it)? If that's the case, then you'd (or whomever is viewing it) would have to open it up in something that would "play" the .gif. Internet Explorer will play a .gif, along with Windows picture and fax viewer and Adobe Image Ready. Microsoft (windows) paint will not let a .gif play.

Hope it helps!
Scarlett
Where do you want to move them from, and where do you want to move them to?
Please give more detail. smile.gif
And actually Steve, gifs can be both animated and 3-d. ;)
And gifs, if I'm correct are the only file format that supports animations.
stevealmighty
blink.gif I guess that I'm just used to Adobe Image Ready....using .jpg's to make animation then saving as a .gif to allow the animation to be viewed later. I made my sig (below) a long time ago, and used .jpg's, and then had them show at different times to create an animation like effect. I guess I need to polish up on my 3D stuff sad.gif Being a photographer, everything is 2D to me...... wacko.gif

Sorry for the confusion poster_oops.gif

Scarlett
Hey it's ok. smile.gif You didn't do anything.
I am just trying to help too.
Truthfully, you know more about graphics than I.
{Nice sig! A bit of re-sizing and it would would work here.}
stevealmighty
Part of your job description will now entail keeping me inline. Good luck with that........you'll need it! LOL!!! Kidding!!! hysterical.gif

Thanks for the compliment on the sig, too. It was the first sig I ever made. Originally, I had it so that stars "twinkled" in the background, but had to do away with those because of size restraints on another forum. Like the bonehead that I am, I neglected to save the original as a copy, and saved over it with with smaller version sad.gif Oh well, lesson learned.

John S, is any of this info helping you? If you answered Scarletts' questions, I'm sure you'd get better answers wink.gif
John S
To my understanding a photo that is a GIFS is like this clapping.gif , It will more. If you try to copy it on another photo you will loose the movemont. If you try to edit them the movement is gone. Will thet help. thanks
John S
Thank Stevealmighty , I'm trying to learn about animations, and 3d's . I can use all the help I can get???
stevealmighty
No problem at all wink.gif Just post again if you have something else that bleepingcomputer.com can help you with thumbup.gif
Scarlett
QUOTE(John S @ Mar 10 2006, 12:56 PM) *
To my understanding a photo that is a GIFS is like this clapping.gif , It will more. If you try to copy it on another photo you will loose the movemont. If you try to edit them the movement is gone. Will thet help. thanks


I'm sorry John I do not know how to do that eiether.
I just ran into the same problem this morning.
Hopefully others will chime in with a solution.
Then we can both learn together. smile.gif
stevealmighty
Ok, lemme see if I can explain this, bear with me please.....

A gif consists of mulitple pictures (jpg's) that are stacked in layers and faded in and out to show an action or motion. There is a time delay between the frames (making a "frame rate") that can be adjusted to lengthen or shorten how long each individual frame is shown. You can also adjust the opacity (how "see through") it is, which will show or hide the next layer.

I've made a real quick .gif to demonstrate. I simply made the word "motion", with each letter being it's own layer. I put a small delay between the frames of .2 seconds to help space them out, and made it blink at the end.



In the program I use (Adobe Image Ready), it shows the frame, time delay and other things that you can adjust. I'll put a screen shot below of the .gif I made in Image Ready. In frame 1, the "M" appears for .2 seconds, then in frame 2 the "O" appears for .2 seconds, frame 3 shows "T" for .2 seconds so forth and so on. It's just a matter of showing and hiding different layers (jpg's) at different times, showing other layers (different jpg's) for different times, and having them placed so that it looks the way you want it to. I believe that you need a program to work with layers to create a .gif. I could be wrong, as I'm limited to using Image Ready.



Is this good, or would you like me to explain about layers (different pictures) and layer opacity (visability of a pictutre or layer) more?
acklan
This link may help.

http://members.aol.com/royalef/gifmake.htm
rms4evr
QUOTE(acklan @ Mar 10 2006, 04:59 PM) *


Oooh...maybe I could make my own .gif? Yay!!! Thanks for the linky!!! thumbup.gif
acklan
No problem. Have fun. Keep it clean wink.gif
John S
Will I downloaded the adoobe ready and it want open any of my photos?? I see I have alot to learn. hysterical.gif
stevealmighty
Hehe, ya, this took me a long time to learn. Not to mention that I don't have any college/school or training for any of this stuff.....including photography which is weird in itself because I'm a professional photographer wacko.gif
phawgg
Stevealmighty,
I agree whole-heartedly.
I am a Printer by background, it's heavy in photography.
Learning the digital equivelant to either photography or "page makeup" is time consuming.
Approaching it with college, or computer science/IT fundamentals taught in HS,
and doing as a "relearning drill" rather than 'right from the start' will add
additional time into the 'learning curve'.

I say that to apologize for my own 'snail's pace' at becoming "conversant" in regards
to the graphics/animation/video production capabilities & 'nuts & bolts operation'.

Good job at taking a stab at a mini-tutorial explanation/answer. thumbup.gif

Thanks. smile.gif
stevealmighty
QUOTE(phawgg @ Mar 11 2006, 03:43 PM) *
Stevealmighty,
I agree whole-heartedly.
I am a Printer by background, it's heavy in photography.
Learning the digital equivelant to either photography or "page makeup" is time consuming.
Approaching it with college, or computer science/IT fundamentals taught in HS,
and doing as a "relearning drill" rather than 'right from the start' will add
additional time into the 'learning curve'.

I say that to apologize for my own 'snail's pace' at becoming "conversant" in regards
to the graphics/animation/video production capabilities & 'nuts & bolts operation'.

Good job at taking a stab at a mini-tutorial explanation/answer. thumbup.gif

Thanks. smile.gif



Thanks phawgg! thumbup.gif
WereBo
Allo Folks smile.gif ,
Sorry to revive an old thread but I weren't here then laugh.gif ...

A quick explanation about .gif files etc... A gif file only saves the colours used in the picture as a palette of 256 colours (or 255 colours and 1 transparent), a jpg files saves millions of colours..

Gif palettes can be 'optimised' so they just have the required colours for an close/exact match and still give good results. This makes them perfect for limited colour pics like smileys, animated cartoons etc., anything that has blocks of colours. A jpg file maps every individual pixel as 256 shades of 256 colours, this will give near perfect results for photos (jpg compression reduces the filesize down, but that's another process entirely).

A photo saved as a 'gif file can often look 'banded' or 'contour mapped' if the photo contains more than 256 shades of any colour.

The result is: Photos as jpg's, 'cartoon' style graphics as .gif's smile.gif

Hope you find this useful thumbup.gif
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