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Scarlett
I want to get started on a Memory Upgrade. I would be so gratefull for any help. I'm guessing that I need to post my specs. In order for anyone to help me. Here they are. This is all new to me. blink.gif If there is something, I left out just let me know. Thanks in advance! smile.gif
  • Operating System
  • Windows Millennium Edition (build 4.90.3000)
  • Processor a
  • 233 megahertz Intel Pentium w/MMX
  • Drives
  • 2.11 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity 230 Megabytes Hard Drive Free Space
  • ATAPI CD-ROM DRIVE-20X Generic floppy disk drive (3.5")
  • ST32122A [Hard drive] (2.11 GB) -- drive 0, s/n GJM23029, rev 0.42 SMART Status: Healthy
  • System Model
  • Acer America Corporation Model 1242
  • Main Circuit Board b
  • BIOS: 07/01/96
  • Memory Modules c,d
  • 64 Megabytes Installed Memory
tg1911
I would buy ram from one of these three companys:
(just plug in your specs, they'll give you options)

Crucial

Kingston

Corsair

These are reputable companys that stand behind their products. Also,
check out the info on their sites. There's a lot of good info about ram,
definitely worth the read.

Some additional info on ram:

There are such things as cheap , ninety day , or generic RAM, which is actually sold, and doesn't
meet the minimum standards of the JEDEC (Joint Electron Device Engineering Council), for
use in computers. But it is still sold, and un-informed people, still buy it.

RAM can generally be divided into a few classes:
(Excepting Performance or Overclockers RAM, which is made to the highest tolerances)

Premium or Lifetime Warranty: This RAM is made from Identical chips, all tested and meeting the
assemblers standards, all from the same chip manufacturer and lot. The capacitors and resistors
are of the highest standard, and exceed the JEDEC standard, and all are installed on a circuit
board which is thicker than required . The final product is tested to confirm that it is stable at the
rated speed.

One Year Warranty: Very close, but may include memory chips from different batches, although
still the same manufacturer. The circuit board tends to be at least one ply thinner, and the
resistors and capacitors may have more variance. These still meet the JEDEC standards, and
are tested to make sure they are stable at the specified speed.

OEM: These are intended for sale to a manufacturer, not for resale, although they often are sold
retail. Often if you buy two sticks, you will find that they have memory chips from different
manufacturers. They still meet standards (the chips are certified to meet the manufacturers specifications),
but are often yet another ply thinner, and once again, may have more variance in the tolerance of
resistors and capacitors, and may use fewer, than on higher quality RAM.

Generic or 90 Day RAM: This is the lowest quality you will generally encounter. Often these are
made of leftover chips; ones salvaged from returned and failed RAM, RAM designed to run at a
higher speed which failed and became unstable. They are put on really thin boards, which do
not meet the JEDEC standard. They rarely have even the minimum number, and quality of
resistors and capacitors, recomended by the JEDEC .

Also, if you touch the RAM anywhere except the edges, you should know that the oils and salts in
your skin are corrosive, and will eventually damage the ram. And if you touch it without
observing anti-static precautions, you can cause damage which may show up immediately or
somewhere down the line.


This is why I always reccomend that you spend the extra money to buy Quality Name Brand RAM with a
lifetime warranty. I also prefer to buy all RAM at one time when possible, and at a minimum, make sure it has
identical specifications (easiest method, make sure it is same manufacturer and model).
Scarlett
Thanks ! tg1911 Shoot, it looks like I have a lot of work ahead of me. I so hope that I can do this. Do Sticks only come as OEM? And the premium are Chips? Sticks are what I was going for. I want quality, but as far as price goes, I do not want to spend a fortune. I'll check out those links. Thanks again, Scarlett
River_Rat
Scarlet
This is JMO

It looks like you have an older tower and has probably got the old style of RAM (I forget what it is called) but it is a lot smaller and has like 30 or 72 pin and you probably have like 4-16meg or 2-32meg modules.

If this is the case then for what it would cost to upgrade to at least 128meg you can buy a much upgraded tower (faster) on ebay for the same money, or even put a few more $$ with it and buy a new tower.
River_Rat
Scarlet

I found this info.
http://www.satech.com/acas121212123.html

It looks like 128meg is max.
cowsgonemadd3
Go to ebay. Here is a link type in what your looking for after those sites tell you what you will need then simply type it in on ebay. They beat anybody on ram prices!
Ill get your link in a sec.......
Scarlett
OMG, I'm sooo confused. Yes this is a Dinosaur. LOl A freebie. First I only wanted it for e-mail. Now I'm wanting to get into Graphics. Do not have enough space. A new Tower? This is getting so complicated.BTW, Thanks River Rat & CGM3 for all your help. smile.gif So funny I do not even have a tower. Mine looks more like an VCR. hysterical.gif
cowsgonemadd3
Yes thats what im thinking I found a pc for 99 bucks with 1ghz!! So you might want to look for anew pc!
Well my link wont work!
cowsgonemadd3
No double posting here just testing this is really cool! Got it from ebay but it wont show up its made for html!
You just type in what you want and hit search!

[code]<script language=javascript>
mpt = new Date();
mpts = mpt.getTimezoneOffset() + mpt.getTime();

document.write('<nolayer><iframe src="http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/fm/711-1751-2978-325?mpt=' + mpts + '&mpvc=http://www.qksrv.net/click-1569720-7088803?SID=%26mpt=' + mpts + '%26mig=" width=120 height=240 marginwidth=0 marginheight=0 hspace=0 vspace=0 frameborder=0 scrolling=no bordercolor="#000000"><a hr'+'ef="http://www.qksrv.net/click-1569720-7088803?SID=%26mpt=' + mpts + '"><img src="http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/bn/711-1751-2978-325?mpt=' + mpts + '" alt="Bid, Sell and Collect at eBay!" border="0"></a></iframe></nolayer><ilayer src="http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/fm/711-1751-2978-325?mpt=' + mpts + '&mpvc=http://www.qksrv.net/click-1569720-7088803?SID=%26mpt=' + mpts + '%26mig=" width=120 height=240"></ilayer>');
</script><img src="http://www.qksrv.net/image-1569720-7088803" width="1" height="1" border="0"><img src="http://www.ftjcfx.com/image-1569720-7088803" width="1" height="1" border="0">[code]

Why wont it work? Its html?
Scarlett
This is what Crucial came up with. The other two couldn't help me. Crucial_ Results
River_Rat
QUOTE(scarlett @ Oct 8 2004, 10:44 AM)
OMG, I'm sooo confused. Yes this is a Dinosaur. LOl A freebie. First I only wanted it for e-mail. Now I'm wanting to get into Graphics. Do not have enough space. A new Tower? This is getting so complicated.BTW, Thanks River Rat & CGM3 for all your help. smile.gif So funny I do not even have a tower. Mine looks more like an VCR. hysterical.gif

Freebies are good... thumbup.gif

But in your case if it is graphics then I forsure recommend a different tower.
Your HDD is to small & you need no less then 256meg of Ram (graphics programs like a lot of Ram) 512meg is even better.

I am like CGM and am sure you can find a nice machine on ebay for $100-$150 + shipping
cowsgonemadd3
Great! Ok if you do decide to get a new pc here are a couple that you might like!
I dont know your price range but here is one for 300.00 almost!
Custom built pc

Now this is the pc I would buy! Its made by compaq 1.6ghz and 32mb video card for anything you will need to do on it!
Compaq pc great 1.6ghz

The above pc has 256mb ram and 80gb hd!

Ok here is the whole search for "desktop pc"
Desktop pc search on ebay!
River_Rat
QUOTE(scarlett @ Oct 8 2004, 11:16 AM)
This is what Crucial came up with. The other two couldn't help me. Crucial_ Results

WOW

$40 each

32meg x 4 = 128meg

4 x $40 = $160 + shipping

I say sell it on ebay, take 20 bucks for it and buy one over 1000mhz & 256meg for $100 - $150 and you will be smiling.
Scarlett
QUOTE(River_Rat @ Oct 8 2004, 10:28 AM)
QUOTE(scarlett @ Oct 8 2004, 11:16 AM)
This is what Crucial came up with. The other two couldn't help me. Crucial_ Results

WOW

$40 each

32meg x 4 = 128meg

4 x $40 = $160 + shipping

I say sell it on ebay, take 20 bucks for it and buy one over 1000mhz & 256meg for $100 - $150 and you will be smiling.

Buy one w/ 1000mhz & 256mg.? What a whole new 'Puter? Or a tower? Cheese Whiz! Lol Please bear w/ me. huh.gif
cowsgonemadd3
Check my links scarlet there is a whole tower pc going for around 200.00! Ok it comes with 256mb ram 80gb hd! 80gb!!!! Or take a look at the search thing, there is a lot of pcs on there going for nuttin! I have bought 3 lappies off of ebay and they all turned out great! At least get 1.0ghz I would recomend no less than 1.2 or 1.3ghz.......
River_Rat
QUOTE(scarlett @ Oct 8 2004, 11:34 AM)
Buy one w/ 1000mhz & 256mg.? What a whole new 'Puter? Or a tower? Cheese Whiz! Lol Please bear w/ me.  huh.gif



No just the tower if your monitor is good, but if your monitor is as old as your CPU then it will probably not support a high resolution for graphics to look right &/or for the graphics card to work right.

Most of the towers people sell will come with a keyboard, it will say in the ad's.
River_Rat
QUOTE(cowsgonemadd3 @ Oct 8 2004, 10:57 AM)
No double posting here just testing this is really cool! Got it from ebay but it wont show up its made for html!
You just type in what you want and hit search!

[code]<script language=javascript>
mpt = new Date();
mpts = mpt.getTimezoneOffset() + mpt.getTime();

document.write('<nolayer><iframe src="http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/fm/711-1751-2978-325?mpt=' + mpts + '&mpvc=http://www.qksrv.net/click-1569720-7088803?SID=%26mpt=' + mpts + '%26mig=" width=120 height=240 marginwidth=0 marginheight=0 hspace=0 vspace=0 frameborder=0 scrolling=no bordercolor="#000000"><a hr'+'ef="http://www.qksrv.net/click-1569720-7088803?SID=%26mpt=' + mpts + '"><img src="http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/bn/711-1751-2978-325?mpt=' + mpts + '" alt="Bid, Sell and Collect at eBay!" border="0"></a></iframe></nolayer><ilayer src="http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/fm/711-1751-2978-325?mpt=' + mpts + '&mpvc=http://www.qksrv.net/click-1569720-7088803?SID=%26mpt=' + mpts + '%26mig=" width=120 height=240"></ilayer>');
</script><img src="http://www.qksrv.net/image-1569720-7088803" width="1" height="1" border="0"><img src="http://www.ftjcfx.com/image-1569720-7088803" width="1" height="1" border="0">[code]

Why wont it work? Its html?

I can't get your links to work CGM, I think you will need to separate them with [ ].
Scarlett
QUOTE(River_Rat @ Oct 8 2004, 10:21 AM)
QUOTE(scarlett @ Oct 8 2004, 10:44 AM)
OMG, I'm sooo confused.  Yes this is a Dinosaur. LOl A freebie. First I only wanted it for e-mail. Now I'm wanting to get into Graphics. Do not have enough space. A new Tower? This is getting so complicated.BTW, Thanks River Rat & CGM3 for all your help. smile.gif So funny I do not even have a tower. Mine looks more like an VCR.  hysterical.gif

Freebies are good... thumbup.gif

But in your case if it is graphics then I forsure recommend a different tower.
Your HDD is to small & you need no less then 256meg of Ram (graphics programs like a lot of Ram) 512meg is even better.

I am like CGM and am sure you can find a nice machine on ebay for $100-$150 + shipping

Yes! River Rat. I so want 512 meg. Can I get that with a new tower? And as far as buying eiether one off E-Bay. Oh my, I wouldn't even know where to start. I will say though, that I so apprieciate that you all have taken the time to help me like this. smile.gif spacer.gif EDIT: Yes CGM3, Those 3 links : Custum Built, etc. do not work. Thanks for your trouble. When you have the time could you see what you can do?
River_Rat
Scarlet

All I can say is to get on ebay and look for something that is something like you want, read the discription real good, I would look for something over 1000mhz & 256meg Ram, & Windows XP (you can always add XP later for around $75)(ebay of course). If I was you I would look for a name brand like HP, Compaq, or Dell, if you find something that catches your eye &/or budget and are not sure about it post the link on General Chat and I am sure somebody will tell you if it worth it.
JEservices
If you say that your computer resembles a VCR, then you probably do not have a tower-you have a desktop. These computers were designed to have the monitor to set on top of them.

I may have some old RAM that you can use in your computer. I will even ship it to you for free. The parts are coming off of Win 95 computers, so Im not sure if it will work for you, but here is what I know about it so far:

I have one 72-pin EDO PNY memory, but undetermined memory size. This type is recommended to be installed in pairs. If you have an extra slot, and you can find another one, then you can have this one.

Currently, I am trying to revive two computers from boot failures, and then I will be able to identify the RAM easier. I wanted to offer it to you, just in case, you decided to keep your current one for a while.
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