swas
May 9 2008, 04:05 PM
Hi everyone, I recently installed AVG 8.0. After the scan completes it shows no infections, but does show 216 in "warnings count". All of my other scans show clear, so I'm assuming this is a false positive? I think I read on this board awhile back that some anti virus scanners can actually read another programs virus database if it's not encrypted, but I'm not sure. I just thought I'd get a second opinion. I'm using Vista home professional. I've included the partial text file of the scan. Thanks for any help.
SWAS
"Scan ""Scan whole computer"" was finished."
"Infections found:";"0"
"Infected objects removed or healed";"0"
"Not removed or healed.";"0"
"Spyware found:";"0"
"Spyware removed:";"0"
"Not removed:";"0"
"Warnings count:";"216"
"Information count:";"0"
"Scan started:";"Friday, May 09, 2008, 12:54:36 PM"
"Total object scanned:";"1570771"
"Time needed:";"2 hour(s) 20 minute(s) 41 second(s) "
"Errors encountered:";"0"
"Warnings"
"File";"Infection";"Result"
"HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX Compatibility\{00000001-C003-4A2F-9142-7CB1D78DE6C1}";"Found Adware.InternetOptimizer";"Potentially dangerous object"
"HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX Compatibility\{00000049-8F91-4D9C-9573-F016E7626484}";"Found Adware.Isearch";"Potentially dangerous object"
"HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX Compatibility\{00110011-4B0B-44D5-9718-90C88817369B}";"Found Adware.Generic";"Potentially dangerous object"
"HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX Compatibility\{002AF282-E42D-4B51-9F70-F1570C02FAAD}";"Found Adware.Generic";"Potentially dangerous object"
"HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX Compatibility\{00C9C6A4-1889-46BC-B73A-F4DDCC042735}";"Found Adware.Vundo";"Potentially dangerous object"
"HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX Compatibility\{00DBDAC8-4691-4797-8E6A-7C6AB89BC441}";"Found Downloader.ConHook.l";"Potentially dangerous object"
"HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX Compatibility\{01E69986-A054-4C52-ABE8-EF63DF1C5211}";"Found Adware.CramToolbar";"Potentially dangerous object"
"HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX Compatibility\{01EB5130-FC0C-4d75-B9CE-4801B1B854F5}";"Found Adware.Begin2Search";"Potentially dangerous object"
"HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX Compatibility\{037CE595-57CB-4EB5-9775-97BC112F3BB3}";"Found Trojan.Bomka";"Potentially dangerous object"
"HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX Compatibility\{06EECACB-F7C6-4ab9-B6AE-2DC4ED4588BB}";"Found Adware.Generic";"Potentially dangerous object"
"HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX Compatibility\{086AE192-23A6-48D6-96EC-715F53797E85}";"Found Adware.Generic";"Potentially dangerous object"
Alan D
May 9 2008, 05:20 PM
There's already been a lot of discussion about this - see here:
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic143321.htmlI presume you have either Spywareblaster installed, or are using Spybot's immunisation protection? AVG say they will fix these false positives when they issue a service pack for AVG8 sometime in the next few weeks.
swas
May 9 2008, 05:28 PM
Thanks for the link Alan. I did try the search function, but maybe I wasn't specific enough. I was pretty sure it was something goofy like that. Thanks again.
swas
david28
May 9 2008, 06:51 PM
Yes this is known by AVG - They don't want to fix it

David
swas
May 9 2008, 07:45 PM
Yeah you have to love how new versions of software are always better than the previous ones LOL
david28
May 9 2008, 08:00 PM
Not all the time

Now did you read my method on how to avoid the clash between SpywareBlaster and AVG 8?
swas
May 9 2008, 08:25 PM
Yeah, I think I'll just ignore it as long as avg doesn't find any "threats". I'm pretty disappointed in them after this.
david28
May 9 2008, 08:36 PM
Yes you should be.
Just enable SpywareBlasters protection after the scan
Alan D
May 10 2008, 05:09 AM
QUOTE(david28 @ May 10 2008, 12:51 AM)

Yes this is known by AVG - They don't want to fix it

The situation has changed now, David (and swas). AVG have now definitely acknowledged that this issue will be fixed when they release their Service Pack 1 for AVG8 in the near future.
ruby1
May 12 2008, 01:31 PM
I too installed the avg 8.0 LIMITED antivirus program on my XP ; fully updated it then started it off on a scan...............after only one hour of scanning I was looking at a growing list of warnings about trojans,worms, backdoor products and the like................. if I did not' know' my computer I would have felt I AM gravely ILL and in desperate need of a full reformat and reinstall..................I have yet to allow the thing to complete a scan....it may take all day and all night
then probably see a worm crawl out the bottom with a trojan in tow and a sign saying 'the back door is this way '................
david28
May 13 2008, 01:22 AM
QUOTE
The situation has changed now, David (and swas). AVG have now definitely acknowledged that this issue will be fixed when they release their Service Pack 1 for AVG8 in the near future.
Now thats better
Herk
May 15 2008, 10:46 AM
I had a lot of problems with AVG 7.5 because it kept stealing files from my utility programs. Now, with AVG 8, I keep getting a set of System Restore files. I really don't believe there are any viruses on my computer - I have no virus activity and I keep it clean. I'm getting a bit frustrated because it also seems that AVG 8 has slowed the response on my computer - more protection means a slower computer I guess.
I even flushed System Restore but then it started finding things in there again within a couple of days.
When I first installed 8, I began to think in terms of getting the paid program because there is so much protection, but now I'm a bit frustrated and considering a different app. If they could get the bugs out I might keep it but I don't like the way it's going.
Herk
May 15 2008, 11:00 AM
In the few minutes since I made the previous post, AVG has popped up yet another set of four System Restore files it thinks are bad. Opening the more info arrow at the bottom, it lists them all as svchost.exe.
Alan D
May 16 2008, 11:02 AM
QUOTE(Herk @ May 15 2008, 05:00 PM)

In the few minutes since I made the previous post, AVG has popped up yet another set of four System Restore files it thinks are bad. Opening the more info arrow at the bottom, it lists them all as svchost.exe.
What happens if you upload the files that AVG thinks are bad to the usual online multiscanners?
http://virusscan.jotti.org/and
http://www.virustotal.com/
Herk
May 24 2008, 08:29 PM
QUOTE("Alan D")
What happens if you upload the files that AVG thinks are bad to the usual online multiscanners?
Haven't tried. I have no unwanted services and it was svchost that it was tagging. But to update my report, I got those notifications, and quite a few of them, for the first few days. I told it to ignore them each time. Eventually, the problem went away and it's running smoothly now. So I'm guessing they fixed it.
extremeboy
Jun 3 2008, 04:58 PM
Hi,
Just had a quick question so didn't want to start a new topic...
I just uninstalled spywareblaster and spybot S&D.
Even after that has all been uninstalled, Avg 8.0 still picks up these Active X compatablities.
Anyone know why?
Regards,
Extremeboy
Alan D
Jun 4 2008, 03:25 AM
QUOTE(extremeboy @ Jun 3 2008, 10:58 PM)

I just uninstalled spywareblaster and spybot S&D.
Even after that has all been uninstalled, Avg 8.0 still picks up these Active X compatablities.
Anyone know why?
Here's a thought: did you undo Spybot's immunisation before you uninstalled it? And did you disable Spywareblaster's protection before you uninstalled it? If you didn't, then I suspect their registry changes would remain, and that's why AVG8 is still picking them up.
The solution I suppose would be to reinstall them one at a time. Enable, then disable, the protection. Then uninstall.
If on the other hand you did all this already - then we have a mystery here!
extremeboy
Jun 4 2008, 02:22 PM
Thanks Alan D,
I'll try that and get back to you. What you said makes sence so I will try it.
Regards,
Extremeboy
extremeboy
Jun 6 2008, 03:56 PM
Ok,
I disabled Spywareblaster's feature and then I uninstalled it.
Then I disabled all of Spybot's S&D's immunize feature and uninstalled it.
Now I am running AVG 8.0 once more, and I see a bunch of Active X compatablities warning signs...
Extremeboy
Alan D
Jun 7 2008, 02:16 AM
Well, that beats me, I'm afraid.
Did it make any difference at all? Do you detect as many activeX warnings as you did before?
extremeboy
Jun 8 2008, 07:19 PM
QUOTE
Did it make any difference at all? Do you detect as many activeX warnings as you did before?
Nope not a differnce at all. I still got about 199 warnings or more...
Any other ideas people from BC?
extremeboy
Jun 13 2008, 03:57 PM
Hi,
Just wanted to tell you that my AVG 8.0 is working now.
I don't know what happened the last day when I was doing a full scan with my computer. I think it was because right after the uninstallation of spybot and spywareblaster I did a full scan with AVG. I think that the effect didn't change yet right after the uninstallation. I think after a shutdown the effects applied so that probably means that spybot and spywareblaster is completly removed and thats why I am not getting a whole big list of false positives anymore.
Thanks Alan D.
Regards,
Extremeboy
Alan D
Jun 14 2008, 03:22 AM
That's good news - and makes sense, too! I presume, as you say, that the restart was needed to clear the registry entries after the unimmunisation and uninstall. (Which pretty much tallies with my personal first rule of thumb when faced with any strange computer behaviour - do a restart and see if it resolves itself!)
chapin33
Jun 14 2008, 12:09 PM
Does anyone have any more updates on when AVG is supposed to fix the nearly 216 "false positives?" It has been since late April that this has been happening and I have read some statements that it would be fixed by late May/early June. With it now June 14, this is really slow.
Many of us are not professional techs. Rather, we do our best to stay up-to-date on things and rely on the anti-virus professionals to keep their programs updated and free of false positives. It seems to me that AVG is really not addressing this in a timely fashion.
Any update information on a realistic time table is greatly appreciated.
Thanks to all.....
extremeboy
Jun 14 2008, 02:42 PM
Hi chapin33,
AVG says that they will fix the reported issue and it will
be fixed with the next major update of AVG scheduled for June this
year. I am not sure what changes are going to make, but hopefully that these false postitives will ger fixed...
Regards,
Extremeboy
Alan D
Jun 14 2008, 02:59 PM
I understand that AVG's service pack (which will fix this and other issues) is in beta-testing stage, but I agree with chapin33 - considering the way they rushed this thing out in such a mess, they are really dragging their heels about fixing it - after all, it is a mess that they created.
YukonMe
Jun 25 2008, 02:47 PM
I ran a full scan with AVG 8.0 just yesterday, the 24th of June, and am still showing the same 217 Active X warnings that I've been getting since the original install about a month ago. Luckily, I had some past experiences with false positives and suspected a conflict with SpywareBlaster due to the blocking mechanisms SB uses. BTW, I also use SpyBot which uses similar blocks in the registry (as I understand things anyway). Came here to BC first to see what was said about it before getting my knickers in a knot. This is taking way too long for AVG to fix. Reckon I will just give them about another week since they apparently said it WOULD be fixed in June. If not, I plan uninstall and go get Avira Antivir even if I have to resort to the Premium version to resolve the updating issues. Avira seems to get very high marks on this site and others like Gizmo's.
frankp316
Jun 25 2008, 06:20 PM
Grisoft released a new version yesterday. Here's the link.
http://www.filehippo.com/download_avg_antivirus/
extremeboy
Jun 25 2008, 06:33 PM
That's interesting...
Did the false postives and other minor errors got fixed? Did the conflict between Spywareblaster is gone?
Just wondering before I install this new one.
Regards,
Extremeboy
frankp316
Jun 26 2008, 05:32 AM
Don't know. I don't use it. I just got it in my feeds.
extremeboy
Jun 26 2008, 07:08 AM
Thanks. I'll just try it out tonight.
Regards,
Extremeboy
extremeboy
Jun 30 2008, 08:42 PM
Seems the New updated AVG 8 still has the Active X false positives

Wonder when they will get that fixed...
YukonMe
Jul 1 2008, 11:55 AM
Had the same problem with the "new" AVG upgrade - still showed over 200 Active X issues (presumably from SpywareBlaster also running on my computer). I am done with AVG. Uninstalled it last week and am now using Avira Antivir which seems to be highly recommended by many.
Avira appears to be swamped with perhaps too few servers for signature updates as others have posted. Avira is located in Germany, so if you wait until 4:00 p.m. or later (CST - U.S. or GMT-6:00) to get them, things go much faster. Supposedly, you can get around the issue with slow udpdating on the VDF files by using a manual install, but I don't know exactly how to do this.
Once you get past the initial install and the first update, things go more smoothly. My experience is that it takes around 3 to 5 minutes to get new updates especially early in the morning and during weekdays when it is not uncommon for Avira to post 5 or 6 new updates. On the weekend, only one new update seems to be the average. When you click on the update button, a dialog box opens showing the "Status" of the update - you will likely connect to various download sites before you hit on a good connection, then the update will either fail or install as designed, so wait until the entire process is finished and get confirmation (one way or another). If you get a failure, initially, wait a few minutes, and try again. Hope this helps with anyone trying to run Avira for the first time. So far, notwithstanding the update annoyance, I am happy with the simple interface.
snemelk
Jul 1 2008, 12:06 PM
QUOTE(YukonMe @ Jul 1 2008, 06:55 PM)

Avira appears to be swamped with perhaps too few servers for signature updates as others have posted.
Yes, Avira is a very good antivirus...
Regarding updates 'problem'... As far as I know, it's not a problem with servers, but it is just the way a free version updates its signatures... Let's say: free versions of Avira have a low priority on their servers...
extremeboy
Jul 1 2008, 01:49 PM
QUOTE
Yes, Avira is a very good antivirus...
I installed Avira too. I thought it was great, the scan speed is fast(takes about 1 1/2 - 2 hour) and there is not much issues with it. The only thing I don't like about Avira is that once they find an infection its stops scanning and waits for the person to decided whether or not they want to ignore it or remove etc... I usually don't do anything when its scanning, like take a break and go out for a while. That's why I chose AVG, it scans for the whole computer and then lets you decide if you want to remove it etc. Other than that Avira is a good anti-virus program. Regards to the updates, I can't update it for some reason but I need to schedule an update time and it will update I can't update by myself by clicking start update....
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