Me and a co worker was just talking. Hillary, Condoleezza Rice and others. My and our question that stumbled us was, if a woman became president, would we be the first country to have a woman president that was not royalty, be it dictator, president or prime minister.

Thanks

Three names came to mind immediately: Margret Thatcher, Indira Ghandi, and Cleopatra. I add Cleo because during her reign, women were not permitted to rule. She was the consumate statesperson and seized power like a man would.

But a more detailed list can be found here:WOMAN STATE LEADERS

This was who I was trying to think of when I opened this thread. She became president after her husband did. I remember seeing it on tv, probably on CNN. I had to go look through Animal's link to find her.

Angela Merkel

Helen Clark one of the first Female NZ prime ministers elected for the last three terms, 1999 - today.
But in the American presidency race, even though I'm not in the country or have anything to do with it, I want to see Obama win

Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, Liberian Female President and Africa's first 'elected' female leader (BBC). I don't know why 'elected' is included! Can't think of an 'un-elected' one.

WE, in Canada, had the privilege in seeing the very first female Prime Minister.

Yep..We had Kim Campbell, who lasted, I believe, about 6 hours....Well, it seemed that short.

Yes Kim is famous for.....Ummm....Well, she is famous for being the first and only female Prime Minister.

She wanted to be called President Kim but it was rejected in case the United States thought she might be the leader of North Korea.

After she was soundly defeated, I believe she ran off with her pool boy to New York....Or was it Cancun....

Well, there you go -

a woman can be just as much of a failure in such a position as a man can!

Hope this isn't getting off the subject but anyone know
where you can find the actual numbers of people voting
for a candidate so far? Not delegates, I know how that works
but at the end of this week, how many people voted for any
of the candidates? I'm still looking.

I meant the popular vote, duh!

I'm sure you could find the number of people that voted for each candidate in each of the states so far, and create a spreadsheet to compile that total if you can't actually find it anywhere.

And, you may not. In many, if not most, states only registered Democrats and Republicans can vote, and then only for the Democrat or Republican nominees. Registered Independants and people registered with "no party affiliation" such as myself were not able to vote for any of the candidates here in Florida, for example.

This would somewhat make the "popular vote" in these primaries/caucuses somewhat missleading since most eliminate some folks from the process and also make it impossible for members of one party to vote for a canditate of the other party.

At least, that's my view.

Thanks for all the information.

A really good place to get polls and information and stuff like that is at realclearpolitics.com , my Government Teacher is crazy about monitering the presidential race.

Now, time to take this conversation to a deeper level

I think that if we had a female president, we would definatly be attacked by north korea (for those of us who have been monitering the situation, cnn finally got in, but as we all no, they didn't find any bad stuff. No that was all hidden before they got their in the closet . . .). I seriously think that North Korea would not take us seriously. And if Hillary Clinton became president, which i hope will not happen, we will MOST DEFINATLY be attacked, not to mention mass panic in the streets because people will see that their country is being lead by a pyscopath, no seriously, that woman SCARES me
Plus, our standing with many of the worlds countries will go down. BUt you have to hand it to Hillary, she knows how to give a speech (i'm talking about her famous speech in bejing, if you don't know what i'm talking about, then you really need to go to the webstie i recommended)

Sorry if I appear sexist, but thats what I think.

P.S. If Obama gets elected, there is no doubt he will be the next Abraham Lincoln, KKK will rise up and assasinate him once again, no doubt about it.

Yes I am interested in the chatter here...I am just actually sitting back watching and waiting for some other controversy to break out and see the effect on the average working joe/jane.
If these people indeed are interested enough to watch CNN.
It seems to me that CNN caters to a specific audience and I am not sure that audience is the dominant one.
I bring this up purely b/c it gives us up here in the North, the most air time on American politics...though I often wonder if it is really accurate. I only say that b/c of the Gore/Bush presidential race and the public prediction made by the network and the "hanging chads".
I don't have any particular political leaning I simply like to watch what is going on and hear what people have to say.
Regards.
BTW, do not all of the states use the same voting mechanism? or is there a possibility of missed votes, hanging chad allegations again?

I hate that such a big deal is made that a woman or a black man might be president. Just people and society feeling the need to separate people into groups, so sad. And these are the same people who get upset over magazine covers. What hypocrites.

To add to my last post, remember when the Colts and bears were playing for the superbowl??? You probably always will because of how big a deal was made that there were 2 black coaches. I'm sure both coaches just wanted to be superbowl champions.

Just think. Someones race or color has become news worthy!!!! I cant believe it.

Gender was not a factor, blood line & political power was what really counted. There were two other female rulers of Egypt before Cleopatra, 69-30 B.C. existed.

Hatshepsut
Queen of Egypt, 15th century B.C.

Nefertiti
Queen of Egypt, 14th Century B.C

I like what The Daily Show's Jon Stewart had to say about this race;

Quote of the week:

In Larry King's interview with Jon Stewart, Larry brought up the subject of the primaries and asked him if America was ready for a woman or a black president.

Jon looked at him quizzically and said "This is such a non-question. Did anyone ask us in 2000 if Americans were ready for a moron?"