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Teenage.Zombiee
Hi Guys,
I was wondering if anyone knows why I haven't heard back about wether I get in to BC's malware removal school or not. I had a feeling I wouldn't get accepted (as it would be in my best interest to concentrate on my Geeks to Go Geek U logs)
Any info would be great.
Because I've been waiting with great anticipation.

Thanks thumbup2.gif

ps. I know you guys get busy and all so I'm assuming thats why I haven't heard back.
ruby1
if you are already with an HJT Training school elsewhere(?) you I suggest will need to stick with them ;once you have reached a required stage in you Training with that School your Tutors should then give you Permissions to post to Logs on various sites but under STRICT , STRICT Tutorial supervision

if you note on the bottom of this forum, you may see names you can recognise from other HTJ Training sites?

once Students have reached a specific level of competence in their training then they are required FOR that training to view and answer logs on other sites ( UNDER STRICT supervison )to get the best possible input ON computer problems;

my suggestion to YOU would be to concentrate on the training you are already undergoing and await your Permisions to post on other sites thumbup2.gif

(also, if you do go somewhere and post and give supposed advise 'without permission' , you will most likely find yourself banned from your Training school; they do NOT take this Training and its seriousness lightly )
Teenage.Zombiee
Thanks ruby1 thumbup.gif

I'm already training at Geeks to Go. So I might wait until all my training is done there. Then maybe try again at BC smile.gif
ruby1
you may wish to check with your Tutors ON GTG, but I beleive that most reputable training schools are 'linked'

( they know what is going on on other sites , one reason being to prevent multi posting ON forums for help and thus tying up several volunteers on the same problem, AND to prevent untrained,unsupervised'help' being offered inappropriatey BY Trainees)


that 'linking ' should allow you , once you HAVE reached the required standard point in your training there , to post supervised here and at other linked forums ; on that basis you should NOT be required to undergo training here as you will already BE posting here under supervision as a trainee and, hopefully, ultimately as a fully qualified Member of the Team; however, as I have noticed on another site , as they rightly say, new infections are popping up daily,so, in reality , the 'training '(learning how TO clobber the new infections ) even for the hightest grade Staff member , never stops whistling.gif


Teenage.Zombiee
ohh sounds good smile.gif
I'm trying to do really well at GTG. So who knows, maybe I'll be good enough to help out here wink.gif
jgweed
No one could fault your eagerness, TZ.
Consider the current state of affairs in the area of malware-fighting. There are certainly a limited number of places where a student can get thorough and sound training in HJT analysis and user communication, and within these top schools, a limited number of teachers, so there is usually a queue waiting their chance to get in. At the same time, users needing help continues to grow at these same sites.
To assure that the most people wanting to learn and to help others have the chance to get training, and for sound educational reasons, most training schools prefer that their students attend only their particular school and not take a seat elsewhere that another student might have.
Regards,
John
Teenage.Zombiee
Alright, Thanks John smile.gif
don77
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once Students have reached a specific level of competence in their training then they are required FOR that training to view and answer logs on other sites ( UNDER STRICT supervison )to get the best possible input ON computer problems;


Thats true in a sense there are a couple training schools that are using logs from the malware forum here and a couple other places for their trainees to work on but to avoid any confusion we have trainees here that are in the senior class that don't go outside this site to get logs to work on they are taken from the malware forum here.


ZA
Both John and ruby1 are both right that you should focus your attention to one school in the early stages of your training thats solid advise right there thumbup2.gif
MattV
[rant]I've never had any "formal training" in malware detection and removal, but I'm pretty confident in my abilities. I've been working with computers since the dark ages Before Microsoft, and have studied every version of Windows since 3.0. (My brother wrote the first book published, concerning the Windows OS.) But it seems to be the same thing in cyberspace as it is in the real world - knowledge and experience count for nothing without that "degree" (which is why I'm going to college at the age of FIFTY!!).[/rant]

(Sorry. This is something that that has irked me for years. Carry on.)
mz30
Tz not sure how far into your training at g2g you are but i am in a similar position,i am training elswhere and i am now nearing the end of my training (hopefully).
You are not the first person i have come across ,who has enroled or tryed to enrol in another program,each person i have come across has alway's said that it was a mistake trying to keep up with two set's of training.
My honest opinion is finish your training and then if you can post supervised here ,and try not to take on to much.

To mattv if you had a nuclear bomb in your house ,who would you trust to defuse it someone who was confident they could do it or someone who was trained to do it?
Not trying to be smart but i think you will get my point thumbup2.gif
Teenage.Zombiee
Thanks everyone for your words of wisdom smile.gif

Mz, I am still an underclassman at GTG. I am just making the finishing touches to my PL3. Then I'll get to work on PL4. I'm trying to do well in the Geek U program and I would say I am. I just can't study as freequently because I am back at school.

So to answer my original question; why haven't I heard back from the mods/teachers here? I know I probably didn't make the cut but I'm just curious is all whistling.gif
Teenage.Zombiee
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I would trust neither, unless they could prove they had the experience needed to do it.

Look at it this way: who would you rather have work on your brakes - someone fresh out of brake-system school, or someone that's been working on brake systems for fifteen years?

(I do have my own nuke. But it's OK - it's not armed.)


Just because someone hasn't been in the business for a long time, doesn't mean they don't know what they're doing wink.gif
MattV
QUOTE(Teenage.Zombiee @ Feb 3 2008, 12:23 AM) *
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I would trust neither, unless they could prove they had the experience needed to do it.

Look at it this way: who would you rather have work on your brakes - someone fresh out of brake-system school, or someone that's been working on brake systems for fifteen years?

(I do have my own nuke. But it's OK - it's not armed.)


Just because someone hasn't been in the business for a long time, doesn't mean they don't know what they're doing wink.gif

Maybe not. But would you want to find out near the bottom of a steep hill, with a very sharp curve coming up?
Teenage.Zombiee
I think you can only edit it
Teenage.Zombiee
QUOTE(MattV @ Feb 3 2008, 04:25 PM) *
QUOTE(Teenage.Zombiee @ Feb 3 2008, 12:23 AM) *
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I would trust neither, unless they could prove they had the experience needed to do it.

Look at it this way: who would you rather have work on your brakes - someone fresh out of brake-system school, or someone that's been working on brake systems for fifteen years?

(I do have my own nuke. But it's OK - it's not armed.)


Just because someone hasn't been in the business for a long time, doesn't mean they don't know what they're doing wink.gif

Maybe not. But would you want to find out near the bottom of a steep hill, with a very sharp curve coming up?

Okay. Take this as an example. My pop was a technician for 45 years. Say if you had been hiring him to do some technical work around your home for I dunno.. 10 years. And thought he was a good technician (don't get me wrong- he is a good one) but something went horribly wrong with the work that he did and you found out he was doing things wrong for the whole time. That would make you very mad right? So you decided to hire another tech who ws only an apprentice and he did the job perfectly.

You never know what someone is capable of. You can be advanced at something and still screw up. And you can be new to something and do it right. Who knows thumbup2.gif
Animal
QUOTE(MattV @ Feb 2 2008, 09:24 PM) *
Does anyone know how to delete a post you've screwed up?

PM a moderator, global moderator, or admin and explain why you feel, the post needs to be removed. If the staff member determines it needs to be removed it will, be removed.
ruby1
QUOTE(Teenage.Zombiee @ Feb 3 2008, 03:45 AM) *
Thanks everyone for your words of wisdom smile.gif

Mz, I am still an underclassman at GTG. I am just making the finishing touches to my PL3. Then I'll get to work on PL4. I'm trying to do well in the Geek U program and I would say I am. I just can't study as freequently because I am back at school.

So to answer my original question; why haven't I heard back from the mods/teachers here? I know I probably didn't make the cut but I'm just curious is all whistling.gif

As you are ,by your own admission, already IN one training school, why seek admission to another one? If you think that the Training on any other site will be 'easier' or quicker, then think again; the Training is quite intentionally hard ; you are at present attempting to clean 'virtual' machines? IF you DO Pass the initial stages and get to post TO Live logs you will then be trying to clean REAL PEOPLE's machines who will rely COMPLETELY on YOUR instructions TO clean them

be patient, get on with the Training you do have the priviledge to be doing and do it well



and a comment to Matty;you will have noticed on most ANY forum you are on that there are Levels of Membership?


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I've never had any "formal training" in malware detection and removal, but I'm pretty confident in my abilities. I've been working with computers since the dark ages Before Microsoft, and have studied every version of Windows since 3.0. (My brother wrote the first book published, concerning the Windows OS.) But it seems to be the same thing in cyberspace as it is in the real world - knowledge and experience count for nothing without that "degree"


knowledge and experience DO count BUT you will find that that knowledge and experience have to be actively demonstrated to someone before you are allowed to apply it ; I Mentor Students and Junior staff ( and, where necessary supervise ( or comment on) the Practice and safety of Senior Staff too); the Student can say to me ' I know how to do that proceedure '; BUT before that student is allowed to go near a human being I need to assess her/his abilities or lack of to perform a proceedure correctly , safetly and with causing no harm

In the computering world , on any reputable forum site you WILL find that ANY section with HJT logs in it WILL have STRICT rules and regulations on who is and who is NOT permitted to post to those logs

if you wish TO post TO logs your best bet might be to demonstrate your experitise TO this work by joining one of the Schools available and, if you are as up to parr as you are suggesting WITH recognising the growing number of infections and the rapidly changing appropriate tools to use to clean them you would progress rather quickly THROUGH that Training process ( unless of course you have stuff/methods to UNLEARN)


another forum I am on does not have a log section as such BUT those who DO respond TO threads with logs in them ARE members of
ASAP


Teenage.Zombiee
Someone was telling me that it wouldn't be easy to do two or more trainging schools (because they're all different so I'll be learning different stuff. And because I'm having trouble keeping up with the one I'm in)

Anyway. I got my PM smile.gif Didn't make the cut but its all good thumbup2.gif


Mod Edit: Edited to remove unnecessary quote. ~TMacK

ruby1
QUOTE(Teenage.Zombiee @ Feb 6 2008, 05:17 AM) *
Someone was telling me that it wouldn't be easy to do two or more trainging schools (because they're all different so I'll be learning different stuff. And because I'm having trouble keeping up with the one I'm in)

Anyway. I got my PM smile.gif Didn't make the cut but its all good thumbup2.gif


Mod Edit: Edited to remove unnecessary quote. ~TMacK



did wonder why you had applied to join the School here when you are already in training elsewhere ; once you have achieved the appropriate proficiency in your Training you will doubtless find yourself nudged to visit other sites to read Logs under strict supervision ; do not try to run before you can walk else you could fall flat on your face wink.gif
KoanYorel
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